since 2001, I never had a problem with safari, and that was when I was using dial-up.
sometime I will use watefox just to record a video online.
seems to me Safari is a must for all Macs!
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sometime I will use watefox just to record a video online.
seems to me Safari is a must for all Macs!
Thanks for the comment, darling, but EVERYONE who is using an HD4000 machine with OCLP must install the root patches after install and update. I think that I read somewhere a while ago that the process is automated in some cases, but installing root patches isn’t a special solution or something optional—rather, it is a basic tenet of using OCLP. If any OCLP Monterey user with an HD4000 machine does not apply the root patches or does not check to be sure the root patches have been applied after installing or updating, the user has made a mistake. The installation and update process are simply not complete until the root patches have been applied on HD4000 macs.
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and sometimes we need to re-root our installs again, as in my case.
I'm very relieved that reinstalling the root package solved a few problems I had with Monterey.
Thursday I was debating going back to Catalina now I don't! I really like Monterey more that Ventura.
I'm just happy we can use our 2012 Macs in 2023, daring!
My issue with Safari 16.2 on Monterey is vague on my mid 2011 Mac Book air 4gb ram, but not slow 
Only while trying to enter Login details like bank sites on clicking tick or enter the browser crashes.=========>>>Safari Update 16.3 solved this issue
But I thank the developers of the OCLP who made this happen of OS Monterey work on a decade old machine with 4gb ram.
Following apps are issue related or dont work and I am aware of it from troubleshoot page of the OCLP
1. Maps both Google+Apple require metal. Will not work with Intel HD3000 legacy GPU.
2. Safari 16.2 issue as mentioned above, however not slow and renders well with other sites.
3. Keyboard backlit works sometimes only, so using alternative app Lab Tick ( though resolved by developers but not working for me) Not solved with OCLP version 0.6.1 too.
4. "Find my mac" app will not work as it requires maps (issue no 1)
Otherwise all is going good, haven't looked back to Catalina. Cheers
Only while trying to enter Login details like bank sites on clicking tick or enter the browser crashes.=========>>>Safari Update 16.3 solved this issue
But I thank the developers of the OCLP who made this happen of OS Monterey work on a decade old machine with 4gb ram.
Following apps are issue related or dont work and I am aware of it from troubleshoot page of the OCLP
1. Maps both Google+Apple require metal. Will not work with Intel HD3000 legacy GPU.
2. Safari 16.2 issue as mentioned above, however not slow and renders well with other sites.
3. Keyboard backlit works sometimes only, so using alternative app Lab Tick ( though resolved by developers but not working for me) Not solved with OCLP version 0.6.1 too.
4. "Find my mac" app will not work as it requires maps (issue no 1)
Otherwise all is going good, haven't looked back to Catalina. Cheers
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Remember there is also the Safari Technology Preview (16.4). I've been using this on a late 2013 MBA 6,1 running Monterey 12.6.2 via OCLP 0.5.3 after getting fed up with "regular" Safari issues awhile back. I'm not noticing any problems lately on any website.
Excuse the frankness, but it's not a problem with my equipment, because macOS Ventura works perfectly with OCLP 0.5.3; The problem does exist in Safari 16.2 running in Monterey;
Mr. Macintosh has already mentioned this a few times in some videos, informing that if the use is a little more intense on these devices (Intel HD Graphics 4000) using unsupported macOS, slowness may occur.
If you are in Monterey, I recommend not updating Safari to 16.2; some are mentioning the root-patch, but with it applied correctly, we still have issues on the Intel HD Graphics 4000.
The strange thing is that there are no slowdowns or problems with Big Sur and Ventura on the same device.
I've done several installations from scratch with Monterey, and just update Safari to 16.x and browse Youtube that starts to stutter and slow down, other sites work normally.
Perhaps because the Air has only 4GB and a slower Dual-Core processor, it is more noticeable, and those with more than 8GB RAM are not having any slowdown problems.
Okay, now, I managed to install Monterey 12.6.2 on the hardware above.
First tests look fine. Even Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chips work right from the start.
But, I do have an issue with my AQC-170 based 10GbE NIC. It's obviously not the S version. So, the NIC is recognized as an Ethernet adapter card. But, no driver is being loaded by the OS. So, I don't see it as an Ethernet port at all.
I see there are quite a few hits when googling. But, I don't see any hint on how or if this issue can be solved with OCLP or by any other means in this configuration. It seems that this issue came up with some prior macOS version, after Mojave.
The NIC is detected as...
Manufacturer-ID: 0x1d6a
Device-ID: 0x07b1
Subsystem-Manufacturer-ID: 0x1baa
Subsystem-ID: 0x07b1
Version-ID: 0x0002
Does anyone here has a hint for that?
Thanks again!
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In 12.3+, Aquantia drivers rely on macOS's DriverKit - which only functions on machines with Ivy Bridge+ VT-D (your Mac Pro does not support the full VT-D featureset). You will need to downgrade to 12.2 (not recommended) to regain support.
Thanks for your quick response!
Do you think this also includes the AQC107S chip? Do you know of any 10GbE cards/chips supported by Mojave and Monterey 12.6+?
Many thanks!
All Aquantia devices use the incompatible DriverKit drivers. To my knowledge, no native NICs will work, but the Intel X540/X550 chipset may work using Sonnet/SmallTree's drivers.
As I and many other users have stated, we are using Monterey, we are using OCLP, we are using HD 4000, we are using Safari 16.2. It runs great, and we have no problems. I think that you definitively connecting HD 4000 to your particular problem in safari 16.2 is misinformation. If what you’re saying is true, it would be a problem on my machine and so many others. It’s just not. Sorry, dude. I saw a Mr. mackintosh video a while back regarding an earlier version of open core where there was a problem with Monterey, Safari, and HD 4000 graphics, but that issue has been solved with recent releases of open core legacy patcher.
That might be it! But in this case , the thing that is holding you back is the 4 GB of RAM, not the HD 4000 graphics.
That's right, I'll try to replicate this problem, recording a video, running Safari 16.2 on the 3 systems: macOS Big Sur, Monterey and Ventura.
On macOS Monterey I will be making a video with Safari 15.x and then 16.2.
It may take a while, as I'm not used to doing this type of recording, but it's something peculiar, and it's worth investigating.
I found this on OCLP Github someone had posted which is related to Safari
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Safari in Monterey is obviously not as good with the OCLP patches, but Monterey was recently released and OCLP has not had as much time as they have had with Big Sur.
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So thats it
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Safari in Monterey is obviously not as good with the OCLP patches, but Monterey was recently released and OCLP has not had as much time as they have had with Big Sur.
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So thats it
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If you want to make a video about it, that is cool, but it still does not give definitive proof that there is a general problem with OCLP, HD4000, Monterey, and safari 16.2. In fact, I am typing this post with the aforementioned specs, and it is working great. Last week, I did a web meeting with these same specs and did lots of screen sharing for safari. Everything working great. When the vast majority of reports are "this works great," just because a few people have a problem doesn't mean that you can draw the kind of conclusion that you are. If you had 2 or 3 HD4000 machines and they were all showing the same problem with OCLP, Monterey, Safari 16.2, I would take what you are saying more seriously.
Oppositely, I DO own three HD4000 machines (mbp 9,1, mbp 9,2, Dell optiplex 7010-->hackintosh). They all use OCLP, HD4000, Monterey, safari 16.2, and they all run great. Daily drivers for web meetings, screen sharing in safari, Netflix on safari.... I, like most users, only have "great, great, great" to report, so not sure what to say about your theories.... Unless, everyone here starts raising their hand and saying "I have the same problem as you," the issue you are experiencing is entirely specific to your machine and your machine alone.
We are getting a free service form OCLP to keep our old Macs useful. I think that it is pretty unfair to the developers to make assumptions here about general problems of OCLP, if there is any room for doubt. In your case, @webg3 , I think that you should try installing Monterey on some other HD4000 machines and see what the results are elsewhere before drawing the conclusion that there is a general problem with HD4000, OCLP, Monterey, and 16.2. There is no problem generally speaking. That's why I labeled your original post misinformation.
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I don't know if you understand, it's a problem related to YouTube and Safari 16.2 (Monterey). It is very specific.
I just used a MacBook Pro 9,2 with OCLP/latest Monterey /safari 16.2 and YouTube tonight.
I was also sharing the YouTube video in zoom, and it looked and sounded fine to all the people in the meeting.
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Unless everyone on here starts raising their hand and saying “me too” regarding your issue, this might be a problem specific to your machine and your set-up. I hate to tell someone “you are alone”🥺, but maybe you are😭.
I have 3 hd4000 machines using Monterey,OCLP,safari16.2,and YouTube, and they all run great. What is your issue in youtube with Monterey/OCLP/latest safari/hd4000?
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I installed Monterey on my imac a year ago. Imac 27, 2011, mod Nvidia Kepler. And it runs flawlessly, until two days ago, I updated to Monterey 12.6.3. After the update and reboot, was trying to post install patch with OCLP 0.4.7. And then a message popped up says new version of OCLP (0.5.3). So, downloaded 0.5.3, build opencore to my efi, and reboot. And, it won't reboot like how it was.
So, ended up trying new fresh install of Monterey, and no luck at all. The installation keep failing.
This is how:
press option key while boot, got into efi on USB, and install. The installation progress go until 10 minutes remaining, it goes to first reboot. After first reboot, select efi with grey HDD logo, installation continue and says 29 minutes remaining.
When the progress go until 12 minutes remaining, the second reboot came. After reboot, it automatically select the efi with grey HDD again, and the progress bar stuck at about 1 third, and then reboot again, go back to progress bar stuck at 1 third, and reboot again. Repeat and repeat.
I tried different USB sticks, different version of Monterey, and different version of OCLP, still no luck.
Any thing that I missed? It was working for a year, the latest Monterey I had before this was 12.6.2.
Des
So, ended up trying new fresh install of Monterey, and no luck at all. The installation keep failing.
This is how:
press option key while boot, got into efi on USB, and install. The installation progress go until 10 minutes remaining, it goes to first reboot. After first reboot, select efi with grey HDD logo, installation continue and says 29 minutes remaining.
When the progress go until 12 minutes remaining, the second reboot came. After reboot, it automatically select the efi with grey HDD again, and the progress bar stuck at about 1 third, and then reboot again, go back to progress bar stuck at 1 third, and reboot again. Repeat and repeat.
I tried different USB sticks, different version of Monterey, and different version of OCLP, still no luck.
Any thing that I missed? It was working for a year, the latest Monterey I had before this was 12.6.2.
Des
Hi all,
I have seen this issue affect a few others, but I have not been able to find if there is a resolution. I have a Mac Pro 5,1 that I have used OCLP 0.5.3 to install Monterey onto. Everything is working great, EXCEPT the Ethernet port. It seems to know that its connected, but its not visible on my network and the machine can't see the internet.
Post-Install menu says no patches needed.
Ethernet is Intel 82574L
Any suggestions on what to do?
-John
I have seen this issue affect a few others, but I have not been able to find if there is a resolution. I have a Mac Pro 5,1 that I have used OCLP 0.5.3 to install Monterey onto. Everything is working great, EXCEPT the Ethernet port. It seems to know that its connected, but its not visible on my network and the machine can't see the internet.
Post-Install menu says no patches needed.
Ethernet is Intel 82574L
Any suggestions on what to do?
-John
Just looking through the OCLP installation instructions on GitHub: am I right in thinking the default process means booting it from a USB only? Is there a way to go straight into upgrading from Catalina to Monterey without wiping the disk?
Yes, you upgrade from MacOS booted with OC installed on the disk using the installer that you downloaded. Nothing gets wiped.
Or you upgrade with an USB stick that contains OCLP-created installer by booting from it and install OCLP to the disk afterwards. Nothing gets wiped.
There is a peculiarity in this version OCLP 0.5.3
When you first select EFI, I don't know why it created a new EFI entry and next to the System Disk one.
What happens is this, it stays in this loop.
EFI > EFI > EFI ...
instead of selecting the main system one, so you need to do it manually.
So that this does not happen, you need to hold the "control" key and press Enter to keep that choice.
Not sure if this is the right place for this but here's my question:
I have a 512gb SSD that I was using in a 2014 MBA and had Monterey installed via OCLP. I then moved this drive into a 2015 MBA that natively supports Monterey. After a clean install of Monterey, I noticed that the EFI partition is still flashed with OCLP. While I haven't experienced any problems, is there any harm in leaving the EFI partition with OCLP? While I don't plan on spoofing for Universal Control (tried it on the 2014, meh) I am unsure what the ramifications, if any, might be by not having a truly native install.
I have a 512gb SSD that I was using in a 2014 MBA and had Monterey installed via OCLP. I then moved this drive into a 2015 MBA that natively supports Monterey. After a clean install of Monterey, I noticed that the EFI partition is still flashed with OCLP. While I haven't experienced any problems, is there any harm in leaving the EFI partition with OCLP? While I don't plan on spoofing for Universal Control (tried it on the 2014, meh) I am unsure what the ramifications, if any, might be by not having a truly native install.
Nope. As I said in my post, I tried different version of OCLP and different version of Monterey, same.
I have already figured out the problem. After so many rounds of trial and error, what I did was I turn the Imac off, reset SMC and reset NVRAM. After that I reinstall Monterey again, with OCLP 0.4.11, and Monterey 12.6.2. And it finally works. The installation progress took like forever but it did work.
I am now having Monterey again on my Imac.
Just did a Monterey installation on iMac 14,3 and it's impressive how seamlessly the OpenCore Legacy Patcher just works now. That was possibly the easiest unsupported OS install I've ever done. Amazing work to everyone who contributed to this project!
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