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macOS 13: All The Little Things
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But for what I see on your screenshot they still didn’t update the disk image icon that still has the old hard drive icon…
I think hard drive icons are here to stay at this point, much the same as how a "save" icon is still a floppy drive despite Macs not having one for 20 years now. There's no clean and easily-understood visual way to represent the concept of a flash chip or whatever storage technology may exist in the future.
I think this Filters option in Network settings is new in b2 – I have Adguard installed. It used to appear in the Network preference pane as a network interface.
True. However, what Apple applications contain the floppy save icon? I believe all first party apps support autosave and don't have an actual save icon.
No but what I meant is that the icon represented in a document sheet for disk images is still the one used from OS X Yosemite to macOS Catalina:
But Big Sur brought a new design with more rounded corners:
So for consistency they should have updated this icon on disk images as well... So sad to see that the attention to details is no more a thing at Apple...
That's the same with the notification when disconecting a disk without ejecting it: the Finder icon is still the one used until Catalina... and it has been 3 major OS release and still no change...
yes, they should definitely focus on icons, and spend less time worrying about performance, functionality, stabiity....
The thing is they already don't worry about performance and stability, so...
I have 250 feedbacks open for Big Sur and Monterey and none has been fixed in Ventura, and some are for relatively big issues and very annoying bugs. Also, performance has been very poor lately (Apple Silicon Macs run very well but if they'd really optimize macOS it would run so much smoother and without these really annoying bugs and lags).
Plus, for your knowledge people and teams designing icons are not the same as the engineering teams responsible for performance, features and stability...
Because Apple engineers do all of their design work too, right? That's kind of a ridiculous argument.
you said that, i never said that. i mentioned apple as a single entity. and i am more concerned with the performance and stability of any OS, then icon redesigns. but, to be fair, everything matters...
My point is that companies has specialized teams for a raeson – so they can focus on many different aspects of a project at the same time. It's not like focusing on icon consistency is going to somehow reduce their ability to improve on stability, for example. They're completely separate parts of the OS with different teams with different areas of expertise.
I don't disagree that Apple needs to improve foundational aspects of macOS. It's super important! But I also think holding them to a higher standard of design consistency is also worthwhile – the hard drive icon may be a small thing, but all of these tiny papercut issues can add up.
am not disagreeing with you, only feel that there are more-urgent priorities. regardless, every OS is continually a work-in-progress; we never get to a 'perfect, finished moment'.
Well said. Yes, seeing older icons won't hamper system performance, but it's a bit annoying, especially as it's Apple — a company well known for its attention to detail. My two cents.
just a humble reminder, it's developer beta 2... and a long way to go before the final release (not that i imagine that everything will be in balance with the universe by then).
Can we keep this thread to actual new discoveries and leave the bickering for other threads please?
EDIT: Have now reported thread for cleanup since you did not listen.
EDIT: Have now reported thread for cleanup since you did not listen.
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Thanks. Aside an error when using the duplicate photos feature, it's been good so far. Tempted to run iOS 16 now
IDK, maybe I'm a Mac traditionalist, but what was wrong with the full installer? I can't imagine the full installer causing more problems than a "delta" installer, especially if it's a whole OS upgrade. If anything, a delta installer might cause more issues than a full installer, especially if the preexisting OS had odd bugs or missing system files, or whatnot. I personally feel more comforted by having a full installer so the whole installation/upgrade feels "fresh" and finished, if that makes sense. My two cents, but maybe I'm missing something?
In Dock menus, the icon next to each window title is now monochrome.
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I feel more comfortable with a full installer too. A "delta" is nice, and if it works great... In reality, given your starting point -- apps installed, settings, etc... what you have is custom, and your unique situation cannot be tested... however, a full, clean install can be tested.
Apple has been using delta updates for many years. MacOS minor and patch updates are already provided in this way, whereas iOS over-the-air updates are provided as delta updates even for major versions.
Given that the operating system is on the sealed system volume, I see no reason why data that has not changed should be downloaded again and overwritten. The installation routines/scripts can still be same.
I am interested in knowing whether the system offers delta updates if the system volume is not sealed or the seal is not valid.