Take a look at this Good-read: https://eclecticlight.co/2022/06/08/where-were-heading-macos-13-ventura/
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macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread
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well in ur case the KeXT for ur GPU would have to be readied which needs to be done via Root Volume Patching.
I'm probably gonna be showered with people saying how dumb I am, but can't you just install Ventura like other people have done on this thread and then copy the graphics drivers from Monterey? Sorry if it's a dumb question, the is the first time I have to think about this.
Yes, but you won’t be able to do it easily. It will require a Root Volume Patch from an updated OCLP.
I got Ventura running on my late-2013 MBP. I used the latest OCLP, and set the spoof to the last supported Ventura MBP (the 2017 model). It booted, and installed pretty quickly. The trackpad only can mouse-point, and click. (no scrolling) My built in display worked, but was not recognized. I then downgraded to Monterey. We need to wait for Khronokernel to come forth with a Patch for the trackpad first. I could've dealt with slow graphics, but the trackpad was almost degrading the insides of me.
Mostly true - and trying out is useful.
I find it interesting (and encouraging) to also look at Discord (OpenCore Patcher Paradise / ventura).
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On an MBP16,1 (2019) I get the same AVX1.0 output, and it is certainly supported for Ventura.
AVX2 it's in the machdep.cpu.leaf7_features , it won't show up in machdep.cpu.features.
I have looked at OCLP discord, Ivy Bridge is working, Penryn without chance.
I totally get it. I did not mean the jam up the form I just really did not want to see my iMac have to be tossed in the trash because it will not get new updates past Monterey which is the only reason why I asked my question.
Maybe you need to use the latest beta (Version 4.3 (48075), there is some issue with Monterey for OS download (app is crashing) on the current version
I have used OCLP in the past to download Monterey. Weird though that the app is crashing.
Version 4.3 (48075) work fine i do not remember the link to find it on twocanoes page
Sounds good. I never have heard about twocanoues so I will have to check that page out.
here you are :
twocanoes / macdeploystick / Downloads — Bitbucket
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| PreBeta-MDS_Build-48098_Version-4.3.dmg | 111.4 MB | timothy perfitt | 604 | 2022-04-17 |
Cool I will make sure to check that page out. Thanks for sending it to me.
Thank you! AVX2 is shown:
hvds@macbookpro-hvds ~ % sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.leaf7_features
machdep.cpu.leaf7_features: RDWRFSGS TSC_THREAD_OFFSET SGX BMI1 AVX2 SMEP BMI2 ERMS INVPCID FPU_CSDS MPX RDSEED ADX SMAP CLFSOPT IPT SGXLC MDCLEAR TSXFA IBRS STIBP L1DF ACAPMSR SSBD
hvds@macbookpro-hvds ~ %
Running Ventura on this MBP16,1 now.
Clean install on an external SSD in my usual way: CCC clone of the Monterey data volume to an erased SSD; install Ventura over it from USB installer (InstallAssistant.pkg obtained via gibMacOS). All straightforward as it should on a supported machine, still good to know that this 1st beta of Ventura behaves well.
Edit: booting back into Monterey (internal SSD) worked and running fine, but it did an extra reboot in the background - don't know what it did. Maybe should be more prudent with such an early beta, even if on an external disk.
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Because the macOS Monterey 12.4 release included Kernel Extensions (kexts) updated with AVX instructions that can cause Kernel Panics on Macs with pre-Ivy Bridge processors such as the classic MacPros, the topic of an using AVX emulator has again been brought up, for example even in the MacRumors forums here in the MonteRand thread and here in the macOS 12 Monterey on Unsupported Macs thread.
Two methods to avoid the kernel panics were devised, neither of which included AVX emulation:
- Substitute the new offending kext(s) with the previous one that didn't include AVX instructions (devised by @khronokernel)
- Patch only the offending portion(s) of code of the kext(s) that contain AVX instructions to instead use instructions compatible with older/pre-Ivy Bridge Macs (devised by @Syncretic)
I only understand enough of all this to be "dangerous", but I don't think there's any danger in my betting money that there are a lot more components of macOS 13 Ventura that now also make use of AVX instructions. So creating a patchwork of patches is likely not going to work - though I'm holding my breath to hear the findings of the incredibly talented developers of OC/OCLP and others working on trying to get macOS Ventura working on unsupported Macs.
Either way, @Syncretic says he has already created an AVX emulator, but getting it to work with macOS is proving to be very difficult:
I hope all this information helps to show that a number of people of have already been working hard on the AVX incompatibility issue for a while, it is by far not in any way a trivial problem to solve, if it can be at all.
how did they get it working? would you mind sending an invite to said server as i cannot find one
There is a link for it on OCLP page. https://github.com/dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher Screenshot to prove it included
9.2 spoofed as Air, but hey, it works!
Development goes pretty fast, I am sure it will be fine for final Ventura release.
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