macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[KardKreator]

Hello, I've attempted to install Ventura on a 2012 13" MacBook Pro (MacBookPro9,2). Currently spoofing to a MacBookPro16,3 (2020 MacBook Pro 2 ThunderBolt Ports).

So far I've managed to "complete" install fully and am now attempting to boot said install. Unlike others I have seemingly got a different result. Instead of the device booting into internet recovery like most have said with my spoofs in place I've seemingly hung the system at nx_mount:1198: graft initialiizing cache w/hash_size.

Hope this helps anyone trying to get Ventura booting on Pre Haswell Machines

(and just for note I'm also giving Ventura a shot on a 2015 13" MacBook Pro (MacBookPro12,1)

 

[tchek]

According to the Intel spec sheet for the 4570R on the late 2013 i5, AVX2 is supported

Intel® Core™ i5-4570R Processor

Thanks for the infos but the command returns AVX1.0 for late 2013, 21,5' and 27' iMac Core i5 (4570, 4670) Haswell

iMac-27 ~ % sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.features

machdep.cpu.features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE SSE3 PCLMULQDQ DTES64 MON DSCPL VMX SMX EST TM2 SSSE3 FMA CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1 SSE4.2 x2APIC MOVBE POPCNT AES PCID XSAVE OSXSAVE SEGLIM64 TSCTMR AVX1.0 RDRAND F16C

 

[KardKreator]

Hello, I've attempted to install Ventura on a 2012 13" MacBook Pro (MacBookPro9,2). Currently spoofing to a MacBookPro16,3 (2020 MacBook Pro 2 ThunderBolt Ports).

So far I've managed to "complete" install fully and am now attempting to boot said install. Unlike others I have seemingly got a different result. Instead of the device booting into internet recovery like most have said with my spoofs in place I've seemingly hung the system at nx_mount:1198: graft initialiizing cache w/hash_size.

Hope this helps anyone trying to get Ventura booting on Pre Haswell Machines

(and just for note I'm also giving Ventura a shot on a 2015 13" MacBook Pro (MacBookPro12,1)

OK quick little update, the system rebooted again and is now hung at a different spot. This spot is libignition 1: graft: opened object: name = apticket.x86legacyap.im4m, type = image4 manifest

 

[KardKreator]

Update 2: Trying to boot into Safe Mode Panics the system

 

[OKonnel]

Thanks for the infos but the command returns AVX1.0 for late 2013, 21,5' and 27' iMac Core i5 (4570, 4670) Haswell

iMac-27 ~ % sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.features

machdep.cpu.features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE SSE3 PCLMULQDQ DTES64 MON DSCPL VMX SMX EST TM2 SSSE3 FMA CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1 SSE4.2 x2APIC MOVBE POPCNT AES PCID XSAVE OSXSAVE SEGLIM64 TSCTMR AVX1.0 RDRAND F16C

Try with the correct command which is the following:

sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.leaf7_features

 

[tchek]

Try with the correct command which is the following:

sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.leaf7_features

View attachment 2015461

Thanks that's better 😉 on iMac 27 & 21,5 late 2013 Core i5

iMac-27 ~ % sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.leaf7_features

machdep.cpu.leaf7_features: RDWRFSGS TSC_THREAD_OFFSET BMI1 AVX2 SMEP BMI2 ERMS INVPCID FPU_CSDS MDCLEAR IBRS STIBP L1DF SSBD

 

[Lucky736]

iMac Late 2013 21.5 Had a pretty vanilla OCLP on it. Don't think it actually even required any patches to run previously, Iris Pro graphics. Was one they could have just let pass as a supported machine as I never encountered anything weird or off with it.

Decided to just update to 0.4.6N yesterday and let Software Update run to see what happens. Woke up to a login screen. Appears to have gotten stuck after login with a window for the Bug Reporter not wanting to go away, decided I would shut off the network to it and restart to see what happened. Poof. Went away, so did the error message. No graphics acceleration, also reports it as a 30.5 inch display however I did some quick messing around and it behaves as well as anything without full acceleration does. Only setting I changed in OCLP is flipping the ShowPicker to N.

I have a few machines I mess around with that are running Monterey but was curious since this one really had the last number of patches, update went thru as normally as any I'd ever done on a supported machine has, maybe better. Lol.

Hopefully this helps the Devs.

This is the command in terminal to see if mac CPU support AVX2

sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.features

You'll get a report out like this:


machdep.cpu.features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE SSE3 PCLMULQDQ DTES64 MON DSCPL VMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1 SSE4.2 x2APIC POPCNT AES PCID XSAVE OSXSAVE TSCTMR AVX1.0 RDRAND F16C


So MacMini late 2012 Ivy Bridge and iMac late 2013 Core i5 out off race at the moment ...

See above.

The late 2013 iMac, Haswell processor, supports AVX2

Mine booted no issue.

According to the Intel spec sheet for the 4570R on the late 2013 i5, AVX2 is supported

Intel® Core™ i5-4570R Processor

Mine booted no issue.


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[Mindebenetas]

Hi. I have a Macbook Pro 11,1 with i5-4278U and have AVX2 support in the intel official webpage. https://www.notebookcheck.org/Intel-Core-i5-4278U-Notebook-Processor.131141.0.html. I try install MacOS Ventura yesterday with a dev profile but we has a invalid boot screen, but a run now MacOS Monterey 12.5 Beta with a OpenCore installed. I wil try another installation this days if you are interested.

 

[tchek]

See above.



See above.



Whether it does or doesn't, mine booted no issue.



Whether it does or doesn't, mine booted no issue.



Mine booted no issue.


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I was wrong with the command (Thanks to OKonnel)

Correct command is :

sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.leaf7_features

And yes it is ok with AVX2.0 on iMac 27 & 21,5 late 2013 Core i5 and ... MacBook Retina, 12, Early 2015

 

[KardKreator]

Currently with my macbook hoard i have 1 unsupported mac that has completed and booted the install, the MacBookPro12,1. No acceleration obviously but that can probably be resolved with Root Volume Patching like the 2012s on Monterey.

 

[vince22]

Currently with my macbook hoard i have 1 unsupported mac that has completed and booted the install, the MacBookPro12,1. No acceleration obviously but that can probably be resolved with Root Volume Patching like the 2012s on Monterey.

thanks for update, looking forward too 2015 13" Macbook Pro (12,1) Ventura graphics acceleration.

 

[KardKreator]

i would believe that if/when the 2012 can be made to run it that the root vol patching will just work, but since the 2015 never needed root vol patching before this it cant be done as of yet

 

[iQQator]

Hi all,
I have got it!
Install on MBP 15" Retina 2013 Late (MacBookPro 11.3)
OCLP 0.4.5

But:
- No video patch in latest version of OCLP (waiting or may be can test)
- No scroll on touchpad but click works
- Sound good
- Wifi 5Ghz work

For install create install media with OCLP and OC with MBP15.1 spoofing
That's all. Still here for some information about Video
P.s. Slow on no GPU acceleration at all

 

[rob.shaw]

You seem like something in life is bothering you, causing you to have such negative vibes. Whatever it is, I hope it gets better.

 

[rob.shaw]

Hi All, a newbie here attempting to upgrade my MacBookPro 11,5 to Ventura 13.0 beta 1 - if I have the download can I just go ahead and use it or do I need some patch firstly?
Thanks,
Rob

 

[Jordan246]

Has anyone tried this on a 2016 Macbook pro 13in non touch bar im curious how this would work because i really dont want to buy a new laptop

 

[Ausdauersportler]

Hi All, a newbie here attempting to upgrade my MacBookPro 11,5 to Ventura 13.0 beta 1 - if I have the download can I just go ahead and use it or do I need some patch firstly?
Thanks,
Rob

You need some patch, it is not ready. If you have literally no idea where to start I would recommend to wait until things have settled a little bit. The core development team is still working.

Reading the former posts might help if you can not wait.

 

[rob.shaw]

You need some patch, it is not ready. If you have literally no idea where to start I would recommend to wait until things have settled a little bit. The core development team is still working.

Reading the former posts might help if you can not wait.

Thanks for the answer - that is approximately what I thought was the current situation.

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

Is there any hope for an early 2013 iMac its the 13,1 model with a I3-3225 (Ivy Bridge) processor and Intel HD graphics 4000? Also how do you spoof model numbers? I also wonder if this will be the way to install MAC OS on 2013 and older macs?

 

[binarysmurf]

I am just hoping that my early 2013 iMac with a dual core Intel core i3 processor, 4GB ram, and 240GB PNY SSD Mac that is running OCLP for Monterey is supported with a new patcher it works so good on Monterey and would love to see it run MAC OS Ventura. I wish everyone good luck on these new patchers and can not wait to see all of these developers come together and do amazing work. I also tried to see if my 2014 MacBook Air would grab the new beta using over the air updates and it did not which I am not shocked by.

At this point I'm utterly stable using 12.4 via OCLP on my Late 2012 iMac. I'll assume that the OCLP geeks will at the very least support the 12.5 update for my system. While I'm curious about Ventura, unless I can get it to install AND enable Stage Manager, I'll just stay on Monterey until I can afford a new system. Monterey should be more than sufficient for at least another 12 months. 🤷‍♂️

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

At this point I'm utterly stable using 12.4 via OCLP on my Late 2012 iMac. I'll assume that the OCLP geeks will at the very least support the 12.5 update for my system. While I'm curious about Ventura, unless I can get it to install AND enable Stage Manager, I'll just stay on Monterey until I can afford a new system. Monterey should be more than sufficient for at least another 12 months. 🤷‍♂️

Thank you so much for your reply.

 

[thatguywill]

Hi all,
I have got it!
Install on MBP 15" Retina 2013 Late (MacBookPro 11.3)
OCLP 0.4.5

But:
- No video patch in latest version of OCLP (waiting or may be can test)
- No scroll on touchpad but click works
- Sound good
- Wifi 5Ghz work

For install create install media with OCLP and OC with MBP15.1 spoofing
That's all. Still here for some information about Video
P.s. Slow on no GPU acceleration at all

Nice there's hopes for this machine, my main day to day used

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

@Larsvonhier why did you put a mad face in my last comment? I am asking a legitimate question don’t know why it needs a 😡 face and I did go back and read previous post about this Mac but none really answered my question which is why I asked it.

 

[Captain_Mac]

That would explain it. My MBP11,3 (Mid 2014) only supports family 1. Family 2 looks like the devices supported by Monterey.

MTLFeatureSet | Apple Developer Documentation

The device feature sets that define specific platform, hardware, and software configurations.

developer.apple.com

Not really. MacBook Pro early 2015 is supported in Monterey and absent from family 2...

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

I hope there will be a way around family 1 and 2 in the future for Ventura.