TBH, considering apple's current pace of wiping out intel macs really aggressively, I wouldn't be surprised if Ventura is your last update. Hopefully, and what I'm thinking is that 2018s will hopefully get at least one more update.
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Put Windows 10 or Linux on them? At a certain point, if Apple isn't slapped down somehow (anti-trust anyone? anyone?), there may be more Macs running Linux and Windows than MacOS.
I know this. But as the guy said. There is a funny mistake that says 2016 on the Spanish site. https://www.apple.com/es/macos/macos-ventura-preview/
So set the Mac to Spanish and 2016 works lol. I’m just joking.
Install without problem MacBookPro-retina-late-2013 OC 0.8.2 verry easy but No Graphics ➤ Intel Iris 5100 is out 
WiFi ,Bluethoot, TrackPad works OOB but without graphics is sadExactly!! I posted the same thing on Facebook. Lol
Makes sense. Since only Nvidia GPU systems were dropped by Monterey. )Ivy Bridge Trashcan works) Big Sur dropped systems with N wifi.(despite having Metal GPU)
But they sold it until 2019...so technically a quick end even though it has been around since 2014
Be patient. It just came out yesterday. The developers are hard at work.
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Because posts like yours jam the forum right now to a point where it becomes useless for the task it was set up: Convey findings, experience, test results, experimentation on how to get Ventura up and running, bit for bit.
It is absolutely counterproductive when folks fill this with questions like "can I run Ventura on my machine?".
Let the devs do their part, see what they report back and share here. Read previous pages, esp. #1 which gets updated.
This is now in a lengthy fashion, sad face was to reflect that already. I have no hope that it will stop cluttering here, but I feel free to attach sad faces wherever I encounter especially useless posts.
Same for me: macbook pro 13 early 2015... no gpu acceleration. Any advice?Install without problem MacBookPro-retina-late-2013 OC 0.8.2 verry easy but No Graphics ➤ Intel Iris 5100 is out
WiFi ,Bluethoot, TrackPad works OOB but without graphics is sad
Yes it does. MDS is what I use.
Something funny that's a bit off-topic, but Apple thinks that a 2018 MacBook Air with a dual-coreCore i3 and integrated graphics is more capable of running Ventura than a 2016 with a quad-core i7 and dedicated graphics. It's just so illogical, it's funny.
And what about high end trashcan sold until 2019? https://everymac.com/systems/apple/...n-e5-gray-black-cylinder-late-2013-specs.html
They are basically killing Intel as fast as possible.(same with Apple II, 68k and PPC)
you're right, although anyone who was idiotic enough to buy 6-year-old hardware at an insane price in a flawed form-factor was almost asking for it, I'd say.
Looks like there are attempts in hackintosh world to emulate AVX2. Is that usable for us? https://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/329704-opcode-emulator-opemu-plug-in-project/
This is what bothers me. I'd understand it more if it were maybe a 7 or 8 year cycle like it used to be. My guess is that they're trying to fast-track the transition to Apple Silicon and are phasing out the old Intel models, but some of these hardware restrictions are a bit arbitrary.
If I'm spending upwards of $1200 on a computer, I'm justifying that expense knowing that the computer will last many years. If that computer won't last me years, I'll save money and just buy a cheaper model.
An even bigger concern is that many of the folks buying (for example) a 2020 Macbook Air aren't actually buying it in 2020. We've got folks from 2022 buying these things, and they're effectively going to get about 3 years or so of major software updates if Apple continues the current trend. For a $1000 computer, that's not a very good lifespan for full software support.
If I'm spending upwards of $1200 on a computer, I'm justifying that expense knowing that the computer will last many years. If that computer won't last me years, I'll save money and just buy a cheaper model.
An even bigger concern is that many of the folks buying (for example) a 2020 Macbook Air aren't actually buying it in 2020. We've got folks from 2022 buying these things, and they're effectively going to get about 3 years or so of major software updates if Apple continues the current trend. For a $1000 computer, that's not a very good lifespan for full software support.
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