macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[ikir]

Is is possible to use old intel HD 3000/4000 memory hack with OCLP? I've tried without luck. It should work but I was not able to achieve it.

The kext edit should makes the iGPU have 2GB or even 4GB of video memory.

 

[Dilli]

Totally understand, even though I think I may have a faulty graphics card as I see other people with the same system specs and they claim it is working for them. I have the same problem in Ventura, Monterey and Big Sur so I fairly confident it's a hardware fault. Going to look into getting a higher spec card with Metal support and hopeful that should fix the issue. Thanks for you input though and I reckon you are right about my card, even though it may work, it's probably right on the limit for what I what it for so I'm probably better off replacing it instead of repeatedly beating my head of a wall.

Any recommendations on what I should be looking for, preferably as cheap and cheerful as possible. Btw I only have a 2 pipe heatsink and if possible I don't really want to go with the cost of replacing the heatsink as well.

look here.

2011 iMac Graphics Card Upgrade

iMac 2009 to 2011 MXM3 graphics card upgrade (Lastest update 10/13/2023 - this is the official documentation page - you found it finally!) This is the single and only documentation post. During the last years we constantly updated this post to reflect the lastet development of vBIOS and OCLP...

forums.macrumors.com

 

[Bmld]

No luck unfortunately, tried them all and still having the same problem. Strange because it only happens in full screen mode. Going to try and install OCLP 0.4.11 and see if that works. I see some people posting that works perfect for Monterey and if I can get it working thats more than good enough for me. Thanks for the suggestion though, I'll post an update here if it works

 

[ofeyvi]

Help.
I'm late to the party and was very lost trying to do OCLP on my MacMini 2012 and I should have read more before attempting it. I now notice that my startup disk is actually Macintosh HD - Data as opposed to just Macintosh HD. What can I do to fix this?

 

[VintageMacGS]

Help.
I'm late to the party and was very lost trying to do OCLP on my MacMini 2012 and I should have read more before attempting it. I now notice that my startup disk is actually Macintosh HD - Data as opposed to just Macintosh HD. What can I do to fix this?

I believe mine says this also when loading from the boot loader but it works fine. I go back and forth from Ventura and Catalina on my 2012 Mini depending on when I need file sharing which has an issue in Ventura generally.

 

[Kokko78]

Help.
I'm late to the party and was very lost trying to do OCLP on my MacMini 2012 and I should have read more before attempting it. I now notice that my startup disk is actually Macintosh HD - Data as opposed to just Macintosh HD. What can I do to fix this?

Me too. But i hide bootpicker so it wont bother anymore

 

[Mooow]

Still no luck with HEVC? I am running the same setup on a 13,3. Did you ever try changing the SMBios to 14,3? Curious if mimicking a Kaby Lake CPU would address the issue as they are very close in architecture.

Nope, HEVC still not working on MBP 13,3 with Ventura :-( I hope the smart people behind OpenCore Legacy Patcher will find a solution. I wonder if the HW acceleration depends on the Intel HW or the AMD GPU.

 

[Macdctr]

MacOS 13.3 Beta 2 with OCLP 0.6.2n on my 2015 13-inch MacBook Pro i5 and i7 laptops this morning. No issues installing the new update as well as the updated security patch and so far everything seems to work perfectly. The OCLP dev group has done amazing work.

 

[Mooow]

MacOS 13.3 Beta 2 with OCLP 0.6.2n on my 2015 13-inch MacBook Pro i5 and i7 laptops this morning. No issues installing the new update as well as the updated security patch and so far everything seems to work perfectly. The OCLP dev group has done amazing work.

Have you tested HEVC support?

 

[maclancer]

When I was first patching my MBP6,2 with OCLP 0.6.1 (upgrading from High Sierra), I found it easier to first upgrade to Big Sur before attempting Monterey and Ventura. Have you tested Big Sur?

After you upgrade to Big Sur and test, then upgrade to Monterey or Ventura (from Big Sur).

Thanks for the information but I setup the MacPro to be my gaming machine with windows 11. I am hooked on the liftoff game simulator and training myself to fly the DJI Avata in manual mode.

 

[walterwhite1]

I've been using a Mac mini 2011 with SSD and 16 GB ram with ventura in(OCLP) , it's not bad, although graphics issues such as maps and apple TV don't work. I've just acquired a late 2015 27 inch 5k iMac which is excellent. It's surprisingly still fast with Monteray and very smooth. Does anybody have experience on Ventura with this? Is it worth the jump with OCLP to Ventura? Thanks

 

[davidlv]

I've been using a Mac mini 2011 with SSD and 16 GB ram with ventura in(OCLP) , it's not bad, although graphics issues such as maps and apple TV don't work. I've just acquired a late 2015 27 inch 5k iMac which is excellent. It's surprisingly still fast with Monteray and very smooth. Does anybody have experience on Ventura with this? Is it worth the jump with OCLP to Ventura? Thanks

I believe you should stay on Monterey. Using OCLP 0.6.2 will work, but it requires Root Patches and you run the risk of not getting a good install. Even if you do get it running, at present there is no real advantage, except for the security patches Apple holds back for Monterey.
Running Ventura on my iMac 15,1 from late 2014, which is very similar to your iMac. It does run well, but getting here wasn't fun (only had good luck constantly after 0.6.2 came out. Prior versions (should work but ...) well not so good.
Reverting to Monterey is so much work that I just gave up on it.

 

[walterwhite1]

I believe you should stay on Monterey. Using OCLP 0.6.2 will work, but it requires Root Patches and you run the risk of not getting a good install. Even if you do get it running, at present there is no real advantage, except for the security patches Apple holds back for Monterey.
Running Ventura on my iMac 15,1 from late 2014, which is very similar to your iMac. It does run well, but getting here wasn't fun (only had good luck constantly after 0.6.2 came out. Prior versions (should work but ...) well not so good.
Reverting to Monterey is so much work that I just gave up on it.

Thanks for the detailed response, appreciate it.

 

[davidlv]

I've been using a Mac mini 2011 with SSD and 16 GB ram with ventura in(OCLP) , it's not bad, although graphics issues such as maps and apple TV don't work. I've just acquired a late 2015 27 inch 5k iMac which is excellent. It's surprisingly still fast with Monteray and very smooth. Does anybody have experience on Ventura with this? Is it worth the jump with OCLP to Ventura? Thanks

In addition to the post above, I suggest you try using Monterey or Big Sur with that older Mac Mini. I don't have it now, but I did have a MBP8,2 from 2011 that ran much better on Big Sur. It was a problem because those MBP had Radeon GPUs that were prone to sudden death. That particular machine lasted years, but I disabled the discrete GPU using a terminal nvram command. The machine ran hotter than normal but it was usable. Not so with Ventura, which does require a lot of root patches! Of course, going back to Big Sur is a lot of hassle, but it may be worth the time.
I actually think those non-metal computers should be put out of service when that is possible, and now that you have that good iMac, maybe the Mac Mini needs a rest, or at least use as a music server or the like.

 

[plugsnpixels]

I actually think those non-metal computers should be put out of service when that is possible, and now that you have that good iMac, maybe the Mac Mini needs a rest, or at least use as a music server or the like.

I agree, there comes a point when the oldest of the old computers need some other approach, though not necessarily the glue factory... I have a 2008 17" MacBook Pro (120GB SSD, 4GB RAM) that I took to Mojave at some point but decided to continue with Linux Lite instead. Linux pops onto these pre-T2 security chip Macs very easily (make the flash drive, have fun).

I also have a 2010 MacBook Pro (250GB SSD, 8 GB RAM) running Monterey latest via OCLP but will stop there with it (I use it mainly for scanning).

I'm writing you from a 2013 MacBook Air that I just put Ventura onto the other day, running very well.

 

[tavifb]

I installed Monterey on an iMac 13.1, everything is running perfectly, only issue is JavaScript on Safari, some web sites are not displayed correctly or not displayed at all. When I switch JavaScript off is ok, but some effects on websites do not activate, specifically bank websites, credit card websites, eBay, Amazon, etc. Loading these websites with Firefox is fine, and that is the browser I am using right now, but I'd rather use Safari.

Any suggestions to fix this problem? Thanks.

 

[tah]

In addition to the post above, I suggest you try using Monterey or Big Sur with that older Mac Mini. I don't have it now, but I did have a MBP8,2 from 2011 that ran much better on Big Sur. It was a problem because those MBP had Radeon GPUs that were prone to sudden death. That particular machine lasted years, but I disabled the discrete GPU using a terminal nvram command. The machine ran hotter than normal but it was usable. Not so with Ventura, which does require a lot of root patches! Of course, going back to Big Sur is a lot of hassle, but it may be worth the time.
I actually think those non-metal computers should be put out of service when that is possible, and now that you have that good iMac, maybe the Mac Mini needs a rest, or at least use as a music server or the like.

I am curious as I have 2 MBP 8,2 that I have tried Big Sur, Monterey and Ventura. All pretty well work ok but none of them recognize the facetime cameras. They were patched with OCLP 6.1. Did the camera work on your install?

 

[davidlv]

I am curious as I have 2 MBP 8,2 that I have tried Big Sur, Monterey and Ventura. All pretty well work ok but none of them recognize the facetime cameras. They were patched with OCLP 6.1. Did the camera work on your install?

Sorry, never tried that on that machine and I gave it away recently, so I can't test it.

 

[avz]

I installed Monterey on an iMac 13.1, everything is running perfectly, only issue is JavaScript on Safari, some web sites are not displayed correctly or not displayed at all. When I switch JavaScript off is ok, but some effects on websites do not activate, specifically bank websites, credit card websites, eBay, Amazon, etc. Loading these websites with Firefox is fine, and that is the browser I am using right now, but I'd rather use Safari.

Any suggestions to fix this problem? Thanks.

I would suggest trying these websites(banking etc.) in a Safari on a last officially supported macOS(Catalina in your case). I noticed that Safari(I am still on Mojave) works better on my MBP9,2 than it is on my MB5,1(Mojave as well).

 

[shafez]

Anyone had success installing MacOS 13.3 Beta 2 on 13" Retina MBP late 2013? it installs ok but does not boot after patching with OCLP 0.6.2n.

 

[iMac-Oldschool]

Anyone had success installing MacOS 13.3 Beta 2 on 13" Retina MBP late 2013? it installs ok but does not boot after patching with OCLP 0.6.2n.

Look at posts 3834, 3858, 3905 and 3909. There does not appear to be a solution yet to this problem.

If you boot into verbose mode using the CMD and V keys, you should see an error message relating to “AppleKeyStoreTest”.

 

[houser]

Look at posts 3834, 3858, 3905 and 3909. There does not appear to be a solution yet to this problem.

Repeat quote from the OCLP Discord channel below as it seems appropriate as always

Warning: the 13.3 beta is broken on some legacy Metal devices. Ivy Bridge and Haswell are known to be affected; other GPUs may be as well. As always, please don't update your primary system, don't bother developers for fixes and only update to a beta version if you are prepared to have a broken system.

 

[olad]

Look at posts 3834, 3858, 3905 and 3909. There does not appear to be a solution yet to this problem.

If you boot into verbose mode using the CMD and V keys, you should see an error message relating to “AppleKeyStoreTest”.

I think the recommendation was to downgrade to Ventura 13.2.1 and avoid all betas presently (and probably in future). I speak from experience (MBP11,4 spoofed to MBP14,3). Downgrading involved using the Time Machine for relevant data, wiping and then re-installing Ventura 13.2.1

 

[coolio2004]

I ran in the same problem with my MM 2014. There is a full installer now for 13.3b2. I installed USB 13.3b2 over the broken volume and had a working system without acceleration again. Waiting for post patch from OCLP.

 

[StephN999]

Hello,

My adventure with OpenCore is over, I would just like to thank once again the developers and all those who exchange and help.

THANK YOU!!! 🤗

I stay on MacRumors, which is still my reference site, although I'm not good enough in English yet (but it will come 😅).

Good day to all.