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startergo

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UTM or Parallels Desktop with Windows for ARM (plus M$ x86 emulation) does such a good job that Bootcamp can be easily left in the past.
UTM kinda works, but is so crappy that it should be considered non working. x86 emulation is done only on UTM (QEMU) and not in Parallels Desktop.

What are the limitations?​

The lack of hardware virtualization on Apple A-chips means that even for ARM code we must re-compile it with JIT. Therefore performance would never reach the levels possible with KVM. There is also no support for GPU virtualization so that means no DirectX or OpenGL.
 

Earl Urley

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Is it possible to install Ventura on an external TB drive and boot from that going forward?
 

Larsvonhier

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Some of us need to run native Windows, and other OS´s. And x86 emulation does not work on Parallels ARM.
Well, my Altium Designer 20 for Windows (Intel) runs pretty well on Parallels on my M1 here. Using Windows 10 (ARM) and Windows 11 (ARM).
For your information (better late than never, right?): Parallels itself does not emulate x86, but Windows does the job with technology similar to Rosetta 2.
Just my 2ct, consider me one of "some of us". Thanks.
 

Larsvonhier

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UTM kinda works, but is so crappy that it should be considered non working. x86 emulation is done only on UTM (QEMU) and not in Parallels Desktop.
See post above #429 incl. explanation.
 

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startergo

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See post above #429 incl. explanation.
So you ran 1 software and decided that because it runs we'll everything will run well on Windows ARM? Which is not even supported? Let me ask you this do you have a license for Windows ARM?
 

trifero

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Well, my Altium Designer 20 for Windows (Intel) runs pretty well on Parallels on my M1 here. Using Windows 10 (ARM) and Windows 11 (ARM).
For your information (better late than never, right?): Parallels itself does not emulate x86, but Windows does the job with technology similar to Rosetta 2.
Just my 2ct, consider me one of "some of us". Thanks.
Thank you so much for the info, sir. Much appreciated.

Update: tried to run x86 Office in Windows ARM, in my Mac Mini M1. Runs pretty well. Thanks again.
 
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singhalrishi27

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1.199 the 256GB.

Anyway, its ABSURD nowadays to sell a computer with 256Gb storage.
You live in US?
Checkout the pricing outside of the US
They are always like that they have just recently stopped shipping 64 GB iphones for some reason still exists in the iPad
 
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gosvamih

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How do you install on Macbook6.1? It's starting to look for external Bluetooth HID devices. Do you use an external Bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
 

Larsvonhier

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How do you install on Macbook6.1? It's starting to look for external Bluetooth HID devices. Do you use an external Bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
Correct. Initially, some USB drivers are not included, so you have to use external keyboard/mouse (with USB HUB 2.0 in between) for installation and the experimental use. You can also install Ventura on another unsupported machine where internal routing of USB paths is different and still supported out of the box. Then transfer or connect the boot volume to the i.e. MB6,1 after installation is complete. (Which does not solve the USB issue, of course, just makes installation a bit easier, depending on what you want to accomplish).
 

trifero

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I know this is an unsupported macs forum, but maybe this can be helpful.

Unable to update to Beta 3 from Beta 2 in a thunderbolt driive. Start the update, download right, but after 2-3 minutes It says error.
 

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