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SEJU said:
But not many. The guess of about 1 edition of MacOS has historical precedences. Apple dropped PowerPC support one edition after stopping to sell the G5 Power Mac.

In October 2005 Apple introduced the last revision of the G5 Power Mac
In August 2006 the Power Mac was replaced by the Mac Pro

The last version of OS-X to run on PowerPC chips was the 2007 Leopard (version 10.5).
2009's Snow Leopard did not run on PowerPC. That would be about 3 years, but the release cycles were longer back then.

With yearly releases I suspect, that support for Intel is dropped two years after the last Intel model has been replaced ... maybe even sooner.

I hope I am wrong, because I would love to bring my Mac Pro to 2030 and 20 years of great service...
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It obvious war against China Intel And Apple

its biggest mistake is that Apple relied on chineese manufactures who screw them up at the end and they destroyed Us economy Steve Jobs made biggest mistake in his life he sacrifice build quality in labour costs,

Now the problem will be Google because they will try to become Apple also sell you less hardware and offer you more money from ther services and they are better in that way

truth is they need customers not moviemakers or artist or competitors crazy world we are living
 
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Exonis said:
Hello, same issue here (I saw your reaction ;))

The temporary workaround I've found is to disable "Debug executable" in your Run scheme, so that you will be able to see your console with all its prints (but you still won't be able to debug any breakpoints...).

Let's hope the issue will be solved quickly by the OCLP team, who has done an incredible work!
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I know little about this, or even the consequences but would it be possible to use not Apple's debugger but compile the LLDB ourselfs to avoid any any Apple requirements that hold the debugger back from running without crashing?
 
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Having trouble with both my Mac Mini and MacPro 5,1 and Ventura 13.2.1 and 13.3 On my Mac Mini I have an external pair of Logitech USB powered speakers. Sleep doesn't happen with time out, I have to do the three finger salute or select Sleep in the menu. The display goes off but the speakers remain on. I have turned off anything that would look for updates online in the background.

Worse on the MacPro. Since Monterey, there appears to be a fault where mouse and keyboard become unresponsive, so only a hard reset will fix things. This has become worse under Ventura. Currently using a powered hub to eliminate any potential USB issues since Ventura but it hasn't helped. Also, I have noticed that my MP will wake in the background from sleep without waking the display roughly on the hour, like it is looking for updates PowerNap style. Sometimes it goes back to sleep but increasingly it stays on with a non-functioning display. Again, hard-reset time. I don't know if it is a memory leak issue or a USB issue. There is nothing in the logs showing a crash or any problem except for the hard reset I have to make.
 
I am going to ask a stupid question.
I have a Mac Pro 5,1 with an RX5700xt
Monterey works perfectly with the latest OCLP standard config. Windows 11 on my MP NVME is fantastic.

Ventura 13.1, and RX5700xt, boot picker and start up progress bar seems to work, then it goes to a black screen.
Ventura works with my Radeon 7950 Mac edition with the Mac EFI.

Monterey works with my Radeon 7950.
Windows 11 sort of works with my 7950 but my 21:9 screen only shows low resolutions and only square resolutions rather than wide screen.
I have installed the boot camp and AMD drivers.

Possible to get the RX 5700tx to work with Ventura?
 
macrumorsnumpty said:
I am going to ask a stupid question.
I have a Mac Pro 5,1 with an RX5700xt
Monterey works perfectly with the latest OCLP standard config. Windows 11 on my MP NVME is fantastic.

Ventura 13.1, and RX5700xt, boot picker and start up progress bar seems to work, then it goes to a black screen.
Ventura works with my Radeon 7950 Mac edition with the Mac EFI.

Monterey works with my Radeon 7950.
Windows 11 sort of works with my 7950 but my 21:9 screen only shows low resolutions and only square resolutions rather than wide screen.
I have installed the boot camp and AMD drivers.

Possible to get the RX 5700tx to work with Ventura?
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github.com

Legacy Non-Metal GPUs and macOS Big Sur - Sequoia · Issue #108 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Thanks to recent developments in the community and great work from @ASentientBot and the Moraea team, we've made great progress on GPU Acceleration support. GPU Acceleration Hardware Support NVIDIA...
github.com github.com
 
OldMac12 said:
Hi all,

I'd like to get help with post-installation patching failure (31). Any advise is greatly appreciated!

Background:
I have a Late 2012 iMac 27 inch (Nvidia geForce GTX 680MX 2GB). From what I read, my iMac hardware would allow me to upgrade to Ventura. So I have used OCLP 0.6.4 to install Ventura 13.3.1. The main installation completed successfully but apparently I don't have video acceleration. The post-installation patch does pop up automatically as it detects I need the following two.

- Graphics: Nvidia Kepler
- Graphics: Intel Ivy Bridge

But the post-installation patch always fails with the following errors. I manually typed the key messages and they seem to also repeat a couple of times.

Need help with post-installation patching failure (31):
No variant specified, falling back to release
Error Domain=KMErrorDomain Code=31 "Error occurred while building a collection:
1: One or more binaries has an error which prevented linking. See other errors.
2: Could not use 'com.nvidia.web.GeForceWeb' because:
Cannot find symbol for metaclass pointed to by '__ZN16nvDisplayManager10superClassE'. Expected symbol '__ZN22IOAccelDisplayMachine210gMetaClassE' to be defined in another kext
Cannot find symbol for metaclass pointed to by '__ZN13nvDisplayPipe10superClassE'. Expected symbol '__ZN19IOAccelDisplayPipe210gMetaClassE' to be defined in another kext
Cannot find symbol for metaclass pointed to by '__ZN9nvSurface10superClassE'. Expected symbol '__ZN15IOAccelSurface210gMetaClassE' to be defined in another kext
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You could try booting the iMac in Safe Mode (hold down the Shift key while rebooting until you get to the login window) and see if the post-install patch installs successfully there, then reboot normally.
 
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Echoing a best practice that's been shared before and has really helped me... My MBP6,2 is working "perfectly" (for my purposes) with Big Sur 11.7.6, Monterey 12.6.5 and Ventura 13.3.1 (patched with OCLP 0.6.4 and booting with OC 0.9.1). I've been experimenting with OCLP since 0.4.x, so it's understandable that there might be some remaining artifacts from previous OCLP bugs and borked macOS upgrades that affect my Mac's performance. Recently, after I upgraded from Big Sur 11.7.5 to 11.7.6, Big Sur would no longer shutdown. And after upgrading from Ventura 13.2.1 to 13.3.1, I lost Finder.

In both cases, I "fixed" the problem by adding a new APFS volume, installing macOS from scratch and using migration assistant to port all my data/apps from the old macOS volume. For example, when Big Sur 11.7.6 wouldn't shutdown after the upgrade from 11.7.5, I added an APFS volume, performed a clean install of Big Sur 11.7.6 on the new APFS volume and then used migration assistant to import my data/apps to the new 11.7.6 install from the non-working install.

I hope this helps someone else.
 
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OCLP 0.6.4 + 2012 Mac mini 6,2 + Ventura 13.3.1 = success

I did have to reformat the drive and start from scratch (I am away from home all month, but brought my mini specifically for this upgrade) as I got the verify/repair error. Other than that everything seems to be working fine and once I migrate from TM when I get home I expect everything to be perfect.

ETA: I did have to Amazon a new keyboard as for whatever reason my Corsair K70 keyboard just would not work sending the Option (or any modifier keys) during boot. A cheap Macally keyboard worked immediately.
 
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igisokMK2023 said:
the unlock feature for apple watch is only exlusive to latest mac which have T2 chips Or Security Apple Os so no way to enable this feature on older Intel macs with bluetooth and wifi cards
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Not true. My 14,2 2013 iMac used to unlock with Apple Watch on Monterey, but same symptoms as quoted in above post since Ventura.
 
Marfan-58 said:
Not true. My 14,2 2013 iMac used to unlock with Apple Watch on Monterey, but same symptoms as quoted in above post since Ventura.
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i was talking about touch sensor chip for keyboard although apple watch is same Now it relies on different secure protocol

concerning apple watch it works on laptops only unlock feature but because once again said they made obsolete with latest watch ios updates that another way of say buy new silicon chip ,
 
igisokMK2023 said:
github.com

Legacy Non-Metal GPUs and macOS Big Sur - Sequoia · Issue #108 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Thanks to recent developments in the community and great work from @ASentientBot and the Moraea team, we've made great progress on GPU Acceleration support. GPU Acceleration Hardware Support NVIDIA...
github.com github.com
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Thank you for your reply but that makes no sense to me.

Are you saying it’s a no, but the devs are working on it?
Or it maybe a possibility, but you just have to play with the config?
Or a flat out no, forget it?
Or a total yes but your clearly an idiot so why bother?

Let me know which suits.
 
INK1 said:
Apple informs, that Macs from medio 2013 and forward can be opened with Apple Watch. Works fine with my Macbook Pro mid 2015 running Ventura 13.2.1 and OCLP 0.6.4.
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I've got a rMBP (10,1) 2012 and my Apple Watch unlocks Ventura 13.4. Apple Watch (series 7) iOS is latest (9.5). At some point with early Ventura beta, I did have to uncheck the ability to unlock and reenable in order to re-pair my watch in order to unlock successfully - perhaps that allowed it to persist going forward.
 
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@macrumorsnumpty You're right - it makes no sense. The RX5700xt is a metal-capable dGPU, so adding non-metal GPU acceleration patches won't help you. You should be able to install that dGPU on a MP5,1. I'd recommend performing a web search (something like "MacPro5,1 RX5700") to see what others have done. I wouldn't think that OCLP would be a solution that you would use to patch such a modern graphics card, one that others are currently using in the "hackintosh" community.

When you perform your search, you'll find threads like this.

EDIT: If you expand your search to include the hackintosh community, you'll find threads like this.
 
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Apologies, I've slogged through various threads and not found a solution.

I've upgraded my 11,2 Macbook Pro to Ventura and while pretty much everything is working fine, Preview shows a grey window and most annoyingly Topaz Photo AI does the same showing a blank program screen. I'm guessing this is an issue with the Iris 5200 graphics I have? Strange thing is the window appears to render properly briefly before being overlayed by the grey/whatever.
 
LongWelsh said:
Apologies, I've slogged through various threads and not found a solution.

I've upgraded my 11,2 Macbook Pro to Ventura and while pretty much everything is working fine, Preview shows a grey window and most annoyingly Topaz Photo AI does the same showing a blank program screen. I'm guessing this is an issue with the Iris 5200 graphics I have? Strange thing is the window appears to render properly briefly before being overlayed by the grey/whatever.
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What version of OCLP are you using? See the change log for 0.6.2 at the following URL;
github.com

Releases · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
It specifically notes a fix for the MacBook Pro 11,x series, so using the latest version 0.6.4 should work (I don't have that hardware so I can't test it).
 
MacBook Pro 9,1 (MBP mid-2012 non-retina) Update to 13.3.1 from 13.2.1. Update performed from applications folder via downloaded installer using Opencore 0.64. Installation smooth (progress bar stayed at 28' for a 15' minute period then duration progression normal to end). Currently, all primary apps function properly: all MS including PPT, Acrobat Pro 2023.001.x, Photoshop 23.2 and Parallels Desktop (win11) 18.1.1 (53328, Safari functionality(incl. YouTube), Mail app, Airdrop and iPhone as webcam. Thank you Devs; at the risk of repeating everyone else, what you have done with Opencore to prolong very efficient usability of older Macs is phenomenal and enables focus on other pertinent device hardware upgrades.

Update: Unable to login in Safe Mode. Did a NVRAM and SMC reset. No Good. Anyone have an idea? All else good in normal boot mode. Thanks.
 
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davidlv said:
What version of OCLP are you using? See the change log for 0.6.2 at the following URL;
github.com

Releases · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

Experience macOS just like before. Contribute to dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com github.com
It specifically notes a fix for the MacBook Pro 11,x series, so using the latest version 0.6.4 should work (I don't have that hardware so I can't test it).
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Yeah, was hoping that 0.6.4 would fix the issue but sadly it remains, hence the post.

OCLP 0.6.4 Ventura 13.3.1
 
Guys what i said it also covered in this video the era of silicon devices already begun

so in future every watch ipad you name will be hash encrypted


forget intel days gone baby gone

until there is industrial war with china and apple and intel did not learn lesson we should not run silicon since true is they are not long lasting same as mobile phones but in bigger box
 
macrumorsnumpty said:
Possible to get the RX 5700tx to work with Ventura?
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I think there are still issues with Navi series GPUs and Ventura.

github.com

Legacy Metal Graphics Support and macOS Ventura - Sequoia · Issue #1008 · dortania/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher

With the forth coming release of OpenCore Legacy Patcher v0.5.0, systems with legacy Metal GPUs will finally be able to achieve graphics acceleration in macOS Ventura! Reminder: These patches are s...
github.com github.com
 
Long story short...
I promised to write an update and i apologize for the delay. No way out. My Imac Late 2012 doesn't want to know about it and I tried every possible combination (except 0.6.4 which at this point I don't risk doing nothing) BUT Wmware Fusion still doesn't work, Live text, youtube, Mics and camera doesn't work on any browser . I couldn't handle it and I installed Ventura 13.2.1 from scratch with OCLP 0.6.1 so I'm sure I won't have problems and I can work without wasting whole days to rebuild everything.... I hope to read better hits than mine in the near futur
Thank you all for the suggestions and attenti
Peace out
Ale
 
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