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macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

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mrbubzie1993 said:
Well used latest opencore to try Ventura on MacBook 6,1 late 2009 using nightly build and none of the usb ports work at all with external keyboard or mouse both wired and infrared….and because the keyboard trackpad are not supported until patches are applied it’s impossible to install with out doing it on another machine and then carbon copying it over or target disk mode stuck at this screen anyone have any solutions…..and no external usb hub also did not work

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Stuck at the intiatial installer screen for Ventura. It’s stuck at searching for keyboard and mouse because built in keyboard and trackpad are supported during install and external usb keyboard and mice not detected as well booting into installer from flash drive. At a loss until I proceed with install.
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Dear Friend: I am having your same issue with my old iMac 10,1 - it keeps looking for mouse and keyboard. Cannot proceed on install. As I read your reference on going "rogue" using an external drive for VENTURA install... I think is not a bad idea. After all ... we could always restore using the external drive or even Time Machine. I only dread having to pass things one by one back to the machine. Other than that... I will give it a try. Definitely will post my experience so, wish me luck.
 
Anybody have any success with OCLP Ventura 13.3 and Ryujinx on a Late 2013 Mac Pro 6,1 with 6 cores Dual AMD FirePro D500 gpu's and pretty much a stock configuration it just shows a black screen after trying to load a game (in my case it was Pokemon Brilliant Diamond) didn't have this issue in Monterey...
 
Gq77 said:
Dear Friend: I am having your same issue with my old iMac 10,1 - it keeps looking for mouse and keyboard. Cannot proceed on install. As I read your reference on going "rogue" using an external drive for VENTURA install... I think is not a bad idea. After all ... we could always restore using the external drive or even Time Machine. I only dread having to pass things one by one back to the machine. Other than that... I will give it a try. Definitely will post my experience so, wish me luck.
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If yours, and other poster's machines have Core 2 Duo CPUs, you'll need a USB HUB connected to your mac's USB port, with wired keyboard and wired mouse connected to the USB HUB. Then you should be able to move the cursor, type password at login, and complete installation. Once booted to desktop use OCLP to install post install patches required for given machine and reboot. The trackpad, keboard and USB ports should become active and USB hub wired setup will no longer be needed.
See link--> https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/post-31872133
Credit: HVDS
Hope this information may be of help
 
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joevt said:
Look at the EFI partitions and see what files are missing?

You can use OCLP to build an EFI stored in a temporary folder so you can do the compare.
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The EFI boot partition containing OpenCore is missing in Boot Picker, there is only my SSD with the fresh 13.4 installation. How can I proceed with your instructions?
 
rehkram said:
I have both internal- and discrete GPUs enabled, haven't had any problems with switching so far. My main test for

Hope this helps just a little bit. Let me know if you want me to test something, since we have the same machine maybe I can help isolate the problem, or at least maybe eliminate some possibilities.
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Thanks @rehkram appreciated.
If you have not tried gSwitch , it might be worth your time.

gSwitch

macOS menu bar app that allows control over the gpu on dual gpu macbooks
codyschrank.github.io
It allows you to see which GPU you are using as well as some dependencies and also to switch manually.
 
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Hey everyone! I have installed ventura 13.4 with OCLP 0.6.5 on my MBP 5,2. Everything works right but I detected 2 small problems. Adobe Acrobat crash frequently, someone know how to solve? And when I try to put the mac in sleep mode it seems that only the screen goes dark but the machine continues to "work"... It seems to me that it doesn't exactly go into sleep mode. Thanks
 
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roysterdoyster said:
No worries, mate. I just did not understand , that‘s all. Indeed I do love my MBP4,1 17-inch running on the latest OSes for years now. Seems 13.4 update killed it, though
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13.4 running fine here on the MBP4,1.
So not a general issue with this machine.
 

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Larsvonhier said:
Here's the system info of my MBP4,1:

Systemfirmwareversion: MBP41.00C1.B03
OS-Ladeprogrammversion: 577~170
SMC-Version (System): 1.28f3
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I assume it is the same. No need for any update. No?

Versiune firmware sistem: MBP41.00C1.B03
Versiune OS Loader: 577.140.1~5
Versiune SMC (sistem): 1.28f3
 
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roysterdoyster said:
I have several times
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@roysterdoyster, beginning to suspect that the internal SSD is at fault. Assuming you have tried to wipe it completely after booting up from the USB Ventura install disk, that seems like the only variable that could be the cause of that non-functioning install. Tried a different USB stick? Tried a new downloaded Ventura installer? Did the NVRAM reset? and still doesn't work? Only thing left is the SSD.
I recently bought a MX500 Crucial 512GB SSD on Amazon, on sale at 4,700 yen (about US $36). Can you consider buying one and installing it in the MBP? The 256GB version would be even cheaper. I have done that SSD install on a 15" 2011 MBP, quite a while ago, but, except for the tiny screws that like to jump off the table and try to hide in the rug, it is not really a difficult job. If you want to do it, you will need a #00 Philips head screw driver for the screws around the back lid, and a #8 Torx screw driver for the lugs on the SSD. Lots of Vids on Youtube about that.
 
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@roysterdoyster, beginning to suspect that the internal SSD is at fault. Assuming you have tried to wipe it completely after booting up from the USB Ventura install disk, that seems like the only variable that could be the cause of that non-functioning install. Tried a different USB stick? Tried a new downloaded Ventura installer? Did the NVRAM reset? and still doesn't work? Only thing left is the SSD.
I recently bought a MX500 Crucial 512GB SSD on Amazon, on sale at 4,700 yen (about US $36). Can you consider buying one and installing it in the MBP? The 256GB version would be even cheaper. I have done that SSD install on a 15" 2011 MBP, quite a while ago, but, except for the tiny screws that like to jump off the table and try to hide in the rug, it is not really a difficult job. If you want to do it, you will need a #00 Philips head screw driver for the screws around the back lid, and a #8 Torx screw driver for the lugs on the SSD. Lots of Vids on Youtube about that.
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Thank forcfor your practical advice. If everything else fails, I will use it.
 
With my EFI boot containing OC gone, I remembered that d0sdude1‘s Catalina Patcher put the Patcher itself into the external macOS Base System, where it was available upon external boot alongside Disk Utility, Terminal etc. Now that would come in handy.

Is that an idea worth recycling?
If an external macOS install disk is created in OCLP, why not put OCLP on it?
 
houser said:
Thanks @rehkram appreciated.
If you have not tried gSwitch , it might be worth your time.

gSwitch

macOS menu bar app that allows control over the gpu on dual gpu macbooks
codyschrank.github.io
It allows you to see which GPU you are using as well as some dependencies and also to switch manually.
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I installed it a while back during Big Sur but after doing a clean install at some point I let it go, not having a need for it. I wonder if that app could be your problem? I'm sure it's a good clean app but it might be worth investigating.
 
@roysterdoyster @davidlv might be on to something with the SSD. When you say that you have tried OCLP 0.6.5 and OCLP 0.6.6n, does you mean that you have tried booting from MBP4,1 EFIs created by each version (where you replaced the EFI on your bootable USB stick with each OCLP version)?

Before trying the suggested SSD replacement, do you have room on your current SSD to create another volume and perform a clean installation of macOS on the new volume? If you are able to perform the clean install to a new volume, you can hopefully migrate data/apps from the non-bootable volume.

EDIT: One other thing - do you know how to add -v to your config.plist boot-args so that you see a verbose boot log? The log may help to diagnose the problem.

EDIT2: If you don't know how to edit your config.plist, you can enable "Verbose" boot when you generate the EFI via OCLP. I'm running OCLP 0.6.6n 20230517, so if the GUI has changed, "Verbose" might be in a different place. In my version of OCLP, "Verbose" is enabled in "Settings"

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Meanwhile, got my MB4,1 (no "pro", just plain old white cheapo-plastic) to run Ventura 13.5b1 with USB1.1 and Wifi patches (OCLP 0.6.5 because 0.6.6n OC EFI will leave it unbootable somehow).
As previously written in the Monterey thread, the key to get USB working at all is the attached map file that has to replace the one OCLP puts in the kext folder on the EFI volume...

The prefpane for trackpad is another story, replacement under Monterey still worked, but Ventura seems to have a different system due to the new system settings design: In addition to the .prefpane files there are now also .appex extensions in /ExtensionKit/Extensions/ for each preference subsection.

Any hints welcome of how to get the trackpad preferences running on MB5,2 (and hence, on the MB4,1 also).
 

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rehkram said:
I installed it a while back during Big Sur but after doing a clean install at some point I let it go, not having a need for it. I wonder if that app could be your problem? I'm sure it's a good clean app but it might be worth investigating.
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Thanks but I am not using gSwitch either at this time, like you I was just using it for some troubleshooting.
 
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Fixed by adding bluetoothExternalDongleFailed and bluetoothInternalControllerInfo keys to my OC 0.9.2 config.plist and deleting /Library/Preferences/com.apple.bluetooth.plist.

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BlueTooth stopped working for me (SMBIOS MBP6,2) after upgrading from 13.3.1 to 13.4 (patched with OCLP 0.6.6n 20230517). My bluetooth chipset as reported by Ventura 13.4 System Report is CM_4350C2.
 
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joevt said:
Maybe try this:
sudo launchctl remove com.apple.suggestd.plist
It may reappear the next time you boot.


Look at the EFI partitions and see what files are missing?

You can use OCLP to build an EFI stored in a temporary folder so you can do the compare.
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Appreciate the help.

Doesn't seem to work, still visible in Activity monitor although it now shows 0%

Contactsd isn't even there now, I resorted yesterday, see how it goes.

The problem is already there for months, so there must be a thing that messes up in my System.

I will create a newUser later if it shows up again, see how it goes there.

Both of these processes show up as (me) a User process.
 
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