macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[davidlv]

Yes, I used OCLP, though I had already downloaded Ventura installer earlier & it was lying my Applications folder
I'll retry it and have OCLP do the download in case thats the issue

1. Does OCLP retain the SR# of the real mac when it does the install ?
2. Does it do an upgrade on top of my existing 12.7 Monterey or wipe that out with a clean install ?

Your questions:
1. The serial number of the Mac is not affected by OCLP.
2. Read the instructions! The normal way to install and run Ventura under OCLP is to make a USB OS installer, install OCLP to the EFI partition on that Installer, and then boot from the USB HOLDING the OPTION key down at boot, select the EFI icon, and then the target startup disk or the USB installer. Then wipe the internal target disk using the Disk Utility on that USB startup disk. Followed by installing Ventura from the USB. You may need to have a USB 2 hub around, and a wired keyboard and mouse at first.
OCLP only writes to the EFI partition and the NVRAM in order to boot the unsupported Mac. By itself it does not install an OS, it only makes to possible to boot an unsupported machine.
In order to install Ventura (or Sonoma, Monterey or Big Sur) you must 1. boot from a USB installer that has the OCLP made EFI partition on it, or 2. Boot from an installed EFI partition on the internal drive and then the installed macOS system.
You really should read the instructions again, it is obvious that you don't understand the order required to run an OCLP system. See the URL below.

OpenCore Legacy Patcher

Experience macOS just like before

dortania.github.io

 

[dandeco]

Again, I'm not going to bother with Sonoma on my MacBookPro11,4, since Live Text won't work on it, plus I've already got Sonoma on my M1 MacBook Air, and some time in the first third of next year I'll be buying an M2 Pro-equipped Mac Mini anyways. But I AM glad that the Weather app works very well now on said MacBook Pro (as I find that to be especially handy).

 

[HowowcanIgo]

You mean you never had the issue before latest update? I never had photo’s face and object recognition working since upgraded to Ventura on OCLP. Am I missing something? I thought OCLP disables this feature

I recently updated to Sonoma via OCLP and have been very patiently waiting for faces to be recognised and eventually it worked. But I' had my computer on for a few days (idisable sleep).
I first thought I read somewhere that Photos needs to be closed so I let it sit like that. It did execute photoanalysyid and mediaanalysisid but I only saw changes in duplicates.
Maybe I didn't wait long enough (already a few days) but then I read that you need to let Photos run the background. And that actually got faces recognised.
So it does work but it's a very slow process (on these old machines). I'm not looking forward to a clean install in the future but still happy that it works.
Even pets in Sonoma. So all hail to the devs! You guys are amazing!

 

[davidlv]

I recently updated to Sonoma via OCLP and have been very patiently waiting for faces to be recognised and eventually it worked. But I' had my computer on for a few days (idisable sleep).
I first thought I read somewhere that Photos needs to be closed so I let it sit like that. It did execute photoanalysyid and mediaanalysisid but I only saw changes in duplicates.
Maybe I didn't wait long enough (already a few days) but then I read that you need to let Photos run the background. And that actually got faces recognised.
So it does work but it's a very slow process (on these old machines). I'm not looking forward to a clean install in the future but still happy that it works.
Even pets in Sonoma. So all hail to the devs! You guys are amazing!

What do you mean by "Even pets in Sonoma"? Is that some new slang expression?

 

[jgleigh]

What do you mean by "Even pets in Sonoma"? Is that some new slang expression?

Sonoma does face detection on pets as well as people.

 

[Bmld]

How is macOS Ventura 13.6 on

- 2006 MBP 15"
- 2007 iMac 20"
- 2008 MBP 15"
- 2010 MBP 13"
- 2011 MBP 13"
- 2012 iMac 27"
- 2013 MBA 13"
- 2014 iMac 21.5"
- 2016 MB 12"

Hello, I test ventura on MBP 2011 17" . The result : impossible to work normally with this OS. Very slow , the processeur heat a lot and the fan are often at the max speed. No pb with hight Sierra.

 

[Bmld]

Hello, on my iMac 2012 and OCPL 1.01 I instal Sonoma (multiboot to test). The result is very good but when I return with Ventura, the screen crash sometime. t is 2 3 time a day sometime not. Have this little problem ? On safari , the react is not the same as before. I don't have this before.

 

[sharpshooter50]

Model: A1398
OCLP Version: ~0.6 (Worked with Ventura)
OS Version: Ventura

I was trying to configure the SIP section on the OCLP specifically for the bluebubbles application so I can enable the Private API for more features.

Specifically, this: https://docs.bluebubbles.app/server/advanced/disabling-sip-on-unofficial-macs-for-the-private-api

I haven't messed with OCLP since I installed Ventura a while ago, so I enabled those settings in the link and attempted to Build OC again. I remember choosing my Mac SSD, choosing the first option (something about EFI), rebooting, and then when my Mac started up, it just shows the prohibitory symbol like this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/101666

I unfortunately do not have a USB with the old version of OCLP because I formatted it like an idiot to reintall Windows (I need more USB sticks).

I've tried to google for several hours and have tried some fixes to no avail. Can anyone kindly help me please or point me in the right direction? Let me know if you need any more information. Thank you.

 

[DeltaMac]

You said that you did choose the EFI partition first -- which is correct. After choosing that you should see your actual OCLP system partition (named whatever you chose, of course). So, booting to OCLP with the Option key is always the 2 choice steps: EFI, then you own boot system partition.

 

[sharpshooter50]

You said that you did choose the EFI partition first -- which is correct. After choosing that you should see your actual OCLP system partition (named whatever you chose, of course). So, booting to OCLP with the Option key is always the 2 choice steps: EFI, then you own boot system partition.

Yes, I did that (I think lol), but as I mentioned, it restarted and went straight to the Prohibitory symbol (circle with a line through it).

Not sure what to do from here. I definitely messed something up, just don't know what or how to fix it.

 

[deeveedee]

Sonoma does face detection on pets as well as people.

My seeing eye dog logs in for me.

EDIT: Now I just need to teach him to type.

 

[deeveedee]

Just a heads-up... I am attempting to install Microsoft Office 2019 in Ventura 13.6 on my MBP6,2 patched with OCLP 0.6.8. The installer freezes and has been frozen now for about an hour. This is my first attempt to perform a clean installation of MS Office in patched Ventura. Previously, I had installed Office in Monterey and then upgraded to Ventura. Not a big deal, but in order for me to have Office in Ventura, I may do a clean install of Monterey, install Office and then upgrade to Ventura.

EDIT: I have determined why the Office Installation was frozen in Ventura. The Office Installer automatically fetched updates from Microsoft after installing Office. The dialog box that displayed the MS Office "Installation and Updates Completed" did not display on my OCLP-patched MBP6,2. The dialog box (which was not displayed) was simply telling me to reboot (which I did by forcing the reboot). All is good with Office 2019 in Ventura 13.6 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 on my non-metal MBP6,2.

 

[DeltaMac]

I think that you may get a good result if you reinstall your Ventura system.
You would need to install with the same, or newer, version of Ventura that you boot from now.
I would suggest that you remake your bootable USB installer with the latest Ventura version 13.6.1 -- but that would also mean that you would need another Mac that you can use to make that installer

 

[MacinMan]

OK, after doing some testing, I would hold off on Sonoma for a VM for now, until the next version of Fusion is released. It works, but is unstable and slow. Also, in creating a new Ventrua VM from scratch, it would appear, it applies the correct Ethernet adapter to the vmx file. So the change must only be required for upgraded VMs.

I also downloaded the create install dmg script from github and using that, so far so good.

Also note, Don't enable the Apple GPU UNTIL after Ventura is installed and VMWare tools is also installed, causes the install media to hang on boot. That's all the notes for now with things I've discovered along the way.

 

[rbart]

I have also done some tests with Fusion.
It’s fun but to slow and way less reliable than OCLP.
Useless for my needs.

 

[MacinMan]

I have also done some tests with Fusion.
It’s fun but to slow and way less reliable than OCLP.
Useless for my needs.

Ventura ran OK for me after getting things setup. It was Sonoma that was unreliable for me. There are certain graphics activities that you may not want to do in a VM, but, as a whole that's any VM vs Bare metal. As far as your needs, you stated mainly XCode, well I don't know what all XCode for iOS and Mac specific stuff requires, as that's not why I use it. I keep XCode around to get the tools and libraries needed to run open source stuff with HomeBrew that are typically included with Linux or FreeBSD either on install, or in the respective package managers.

I've tried to explain to people here repeatedly that I have very few Apple specific needs I use macOS for these days and most tasks can be done with other options these days. With that said though, bare metal is always going to more reliable than a VM at least like Fusion or Parallels. Maybe stuff that runs on bare metal is better. I don't have experience with that type of Hypervisor.

 

[deeveedee]

I am A/B'ing Ventura 13.6 and High Sierra (the last natively supported macOS) on my MBP6,2 (non-metal Nvidia Tesla). while the responsiveness of Ventura is not quite as good as High Sierra (and I wouldn't expect it to be), the Devs have done a remarkable job with porting the old High Sierra non-metal drivers to Ventura. I suspect that Apple's refinements of Ventura have something to do with it, too.

With full Apple support of Ventura (including full / native support of Wi-Fi), Ventura should continue to be perfect for the MBP6,2 for years to come.

 

[alissonss]

Hi all! I'm trying to find some help with my MacBook Pro 15" 2015. The camera is working very well on all apps, but not in Safari. Anyone has any solution to that? I tried to use tccplus, but no success.

 

[deeveedee]

Hi all! I'm trying to find some help with my MacBook Pro 15" 2015. The camera is working very well on all apps, but not in Safari. Anyone has any solution to that? I tried to use tccplus, but no success.

I don't have experience with your model, but it might help others (to help you) if you include the version of OCLP that you are using and the specific version of macOS.

 

[alissonss]

I don't have experience with your model, but it might help others (to help you) if you include the version of OCLP that you are using and the specific version of macOS.

Yes, of course!
OCLP version: 1.0.1
Mac OS: Sonoma 14.0

I didn't find the Sonoma thread, that's why I'm posting it here.

 

[deeveedee]

Yes, of course!
OCLP version: 1.0.1
Mac OS: Sonoma 14.0

I didn't find the Sonoma thread, that's why I'm posting it here.

You will probably get more help if you post your question in the Sonoma thread.

 

[adnbek]

the same problem, and i dont know how solve it, OCLP 1.0.1 version, you solve it?

Edit I was running Ventura 13.4.1 on a 27 inch iMac late 2017 17,1 previous OCLP was 0.6.8 , I have not upgraded to Sonoma only OCLP was updated to 1.0.1

Have either of you solved the problem? I dare not update from 0.6.8 on my iMac 17,1 in the mean time...

 

[deeveedee]

I am still using OCLP 0.6.8 to patch Ventura 13.6. It runs perfectly on my MBP6,2 (my opinion and for my purposes). Has anyone who is using OCLP 1.x.x with Ventura noticed any improvements that warrant an upgrade from OCLP 0.6.8 to 1.x.x with Ventura? Thank you.

 

[MacinMan]

I am still using OCLP 0.6.8 to patch Ventura 13.6. It runs perfectly on my MBP6,2 (my opinion and for my purposes). Has anyone who is using OCLP 1.x.x with Ventura noticed any improvements that warrant an upgrade from OCLP 0.6.8 to 1.x.x with Ventura? Thank you.

If you use Apple Compressor, OCLP fixes the graphics issues where Compressor thinks it's running in a VM and won't start. So, that's why i used the 0.69 nightlies with Ventura while waiting for Sonoma and OCLP 1.x

 

[rehkram]

Whoops, wrong thread