macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[deeveedee]

of course how silly of me, my apologies.

OCLP version: 1.2.0
macOS version: 13.6.1

resetting nvram did not solve.

I have to sign off, so provide your information for others to debug. In the meantime, this solution might help you.

 

[deeveedee]

1.2.0%00

48 0 0xffffff8002abb000 0x37000 0x37000 com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily (9.0.0) 48641460-E7DF-3897-ADA1-FD90A95D31A9 <47 25 16 9 8 7 6 3 1>

161 0 0xffffff7f978a0000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetooth20703USBTransport (9.0.0) 7B70575D-1DA2-3667-851F-B12CCE183E0C <9 8 7 6 3>

163 0 0xffffff7f978a3000 0x1000 0x1000 com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport (9.0.0) A80AE7AC-7FDB-3968-BC23-F13F20FE9EC4 <9 8 7 6 3>

164 0 0xffffff7f978a6000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.iokit.CSRBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport (9.0.0) 23D674AC-7739-32F5-B64D-3C1104EA4DE8 <9 8 7 6 3>

165 0 0xffffff7f97a2a000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHostControllerPCIeTransport (9.0.0) 4416A03B-7349-31B1-9E35-E2CA2644C673 <9 8 7 6 3>

166 0 0xffffff7f97a2d000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerTransport (9.0.0) 6992EFEA-B257-3462-9185-C3D870DD7B85 <9 8 7 6 3>

167 0 0xffffff7f97a30000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUARTTransport (9.0.0) 3B804DF9-6F64-3895-81F1-D5312EB9155F <9 8 7 6 3>

168 0 0xffffff7f97a33000 0x1000 0x1000 com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport (9.0.0) 605B865E-EE05-31D5-9458-28B8BC19FD0C <9 8 7 6 3>

169 0 0xffffff7f97a36000 0x1000 0x1000 com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothPacketLogger (9.0.0) 9D6725C5-4683-305C-AA29-D963B6DE6C13 <9 8 7 6 3>

170 0 0xffffff7f97a39000 0xfff 0xfff com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager (9.0.0) D1A02830-07A6-3FCB-A615-82E15509D37A <9 8 7 6 3>

bluetool, not bluetooth

 

[Komyea]

bluetool, not bluetooth

Executing: /usr/bin/kmutil showloaded

No variant specified, falling back to release

 

[deeveedee]

Executing: /usr/bin/kmutil showloaded

No variant specified, falling back to release

What is your SMBIOS (e.g., MBPx,y)

 

[Komyea]

What is your SMBIOS (e.g., MBPx,y)

MacPro 5,1

 

[deeveedee]

MacPro 5,1

How did you "Build and Install Open Core"? Your Open Core EFI should include BlueToolFixup.kext and Bluetooth-Spoof.kext:

When you executed 'kextstat | grep -i bluetool' you reported that it returned nothing. This indicates that BlueToolFixup.kext is not loaded.

EDIT: Please post your Open Core config.plist.

EDIT2: @Komyea Could you also confirm that this is the model of your Wi-Fi card: Bcm943602cdp. I think that I see what's going on, but I need your config.plist to confirm my suspicion.

 

[Komyea]

How did you "Build and Install Open Core"? Your Open Core EFI should include BlueToolFixup.kext and Bluetooth-Spoof.kext:
View attachment 2309858


When you executed 'kextstat | grep -i bluetool' you reported that it returned nothing. This indicates that BlueToolFixup.kext is not loaded.

EDIT: Please post your Open Core config.plist

I can confirm that is the card I have.

 

[deeveedee]

@Komyea Your config.plist looks correct for the Wi-Fi / Bluetooth card that you have. I was thinking that you had an older Wi-Fi card (thus my question about BlueToolFixup).

I did a quick search and see that others are having issues with Bluetooth for your Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card. I am out of guesses and apologize for not being able to help you. Hopefully someone else has suggestions.

EDIT: @Komyea One other thought - did you connect the USB cable from the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card to a USB header? I don't have experience with your card, but I think it needs the USB cable.

 

[Komyea]

@Komyea Your config.plist looks correct for the Wi-Fi / Bluetooth card that you have. I was thinking that you had an older Wi-Fi card (thus my question about BlueToolFixup).

I did a quick search and see that others are having issues with Bluetooth for your Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card. I am out of guesses and apologize for not being able to help you. Hopefully someone else has suggestions.

EDIT: @Komyea One other thought - did you connect the USB cable from the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card to a USB header? I don't have experience with your card, but I think it needs the USB cable.

thank you so much for trying to provide a solution, it is really appreciated!
yes i have installed the card per instructions

 

[K two]

OCLP v.1.3n has become v.1.2.1n 🙃

 

[RK78]

Yes I do think you should make a back up soon, like now!
If at all possible, that new backup APFS SSD should be formatted using a system later than HS. HS really has the poorest version of APFS Apple produced. HS can usually write to such a disk, and it will ensure the data is good when you connect to a Ventura or Sonoma system.
You are also worrying about several things that just hurt your head without any necessity.
Like: Wake for network access is now in the Battery section in Sonoma, it is in the Energy Saver section in Ventura, it is still available. But that is not Bluetooth. Bluetooth and Network are two different things. So you may indeed have to use that utility "Bluesnooze." See: https://www.google.com/search?q=in+...BgewgIGEAAYHhgPwgIHEAAYExiABA&sclient=gws-wiz
Another: Brave now gets updates automatically, get the latest version at https://github.com/brave/
Click on the blue "Brave-browser" sort of top left, and then on "latest" lower right, to get access to tons of platform specific versions. These will work with Big Sur up through Sonoma.
And anothe; in regard to "accumulated stuff, and know just where to find things", make a Carbon Copy Cloner (CCC) regular backup to a new SSD (not a bootable clone). When you install the new system, be it Ventura or Sonoma whatever, at the last part of the install, you will be prompted to connect a Mac or disk. Connect that CCC backup disk and let the Migration Assistant copy your data back to the newly installed system. When you are finished you will have everything back where it was! Easy.
Learning not to fret and adapting to the new system without any unnecessary stress may give you a few more years on this world, that might make it easier if you think about it. Later in your memoirs, you can write about how Apple caused years of unnecessary pain, and then all the little ones will say, "Really, I had no issues adapting to that!" Good for a laugh or two that will be.

Thanks for the encouraging words about getting this all set up properly. Will get to that sooner or later, but right now kind of burned out with all the hours I've been putting in.

- Erased and formatted the external volume for the backup from Catalina (Patcher), so perhaps it uses a more up to date APFS. And in any case, had to erase once again from Ventura.

- Tried SuperDuper, which many recommend, but it kept erroring out.

- Was finally able to make a backup - not bootable, from CCC. In that regard, see https://bombich.com/kb/ccc6/cloning-macos-system-volumes-apple-software-restore). As suggested in that link, everything you need in order to restore is there:

You don't have to be able to boot your Mac from the CCC backup to restore data from it. You can restore individual files and folders using Finder or CCC while booted from your production volume. If you ever need to restore everything from a non-bootable backup, you can install macOS via Recovery mode (e.g. onto a replacement disk), then migrate data from the backup via Migration Assistant. CCC backups are compatible with Migration Assistant, and we support that configuration.

- Re. Brave: I think you must have misunderstood what I was saying about there; it's updating and working fine in Ventura, but no more updates in High Sierra. Stuck at maybe 5 or 6 versions ago. Have lost track.

- Definitely looked everywhere for that Allow Bluetooth devices to wake....So Bluesnooze is really indispensable, although had to install Brew in order to get it working properly.

- Should have mentioned earlier, this is a Late '09 iMac - iMac 10,1

 

[davidlv]

Thanks for the encouraging words about getting this all set up properly. Will get to that sooner or later, but right now kind of burned out with all the hours I've been putting in.

- Erased and formatted the external volume for the backup from Catalina (Patcher), so perhaps it uses a more up to date APFS. And in any case, had to erase once again from Ventura.

- Tried SuperDuper, which many recommend, but it kept erroring out.

- Was finally able to make a backup - not bootable, from CCC. In that regard, see https://bombich.com/kb/ccc6/cloning-macos-system-volumes-apple-software-restore). As suggested in that link, everything you need in order to restore is there:

You don't have to be able to boot your Mac from the CCC backup to restore data from it. You can restore individual files and folders using Finder or CCC while booted from your production volume. If you ever need to restore everything from a non-bootable backup, you can install macOS via Recovery mode (e.g. onto a replacement disk), then migrate data from the backup via Migration Assistant. CCC backups are compatible with Migration Assistant, and we support that configuration.

- Re. Brave: I think you must have misunderstood what I was saying about there; it's updating and working fine in Ventura, but no more updates in High Sierra. Stuck at maybe 5 or 6 versions ago. Have lost track.

- Definitely looked everywhere for that Allow Bluetooth devices to wake....So Bluesnooze is really indispensable, although had to install Brew in order to get it working properly.

- Should have mentioned earlier, this is a Late '09 iMac - iMac 10,1

OK, in regard to that CCC info, I often refer people to Mike Bombich's blog. He is a real gem, dedicated and very skillful, yet down-to-earth and easy to deal with. I have no connection to that Company, just a very satisfied customer. I have used my CCC backups several times to reinstall MacOS, always just works.
May I suggest you put your hardware in your signature? Click on your User name, top right of this page, and that will show you the Signature input field.

 

[mbp41fan]

Macbook Pro 4,1 15 inch on Ventura 13.6.1. Having issues with the trackpad where when the cursor is near to a button, it automatically centers and attaches to the button. Anybody having a similar issue and/or know of a fix?

 

[gatd4]

just updated to ventura mac pro 5.1 all is good but I really need my MOTU audio interfaces to work they were driven by system extensions on mojave is there anyway I can load these extensions?
thanks

 

[RK78]

OK, in regard to that CCC info, I often refer people to Mike Bombich's blog. He is a real gem, dedicated and very skillful, yet down-to-earth and easy to deal with. I have no connection to that Company, just a very satisfied customer. I have used my CCC backups several times to reinstall MacOS, always just works.
May I suggest you put your hardware in your signature? Click on your User name, top right of this page, and that will show you the Signature input field.

Ditto about Mike Bombich. I'm seeing that CCC version 1 was released January 18, 2002. Don't think I go quite that far back with CCC, but most likely started some time after I got my G3 iMac, purchased in '02 - last time I checked, still boots up.

He is indeed a real gem. Last year when I was setting up the Catalina (Patcher) he stayed with me for a back and forth over 2 or 3 days, in order to explain how to get a backup on the High Sierra using CCC 5. Incredibly patient and generous. Years ago he was very forthcoming publicly with some personal details. I remember him saying that he wouldn't be around for a day or 2 because of the birth of one of his kids. Must have been when CCC was an open forum.

Now that I have a backup, when the time comes and I do the proper erase and reinstall, it would be very nice if I'm able to move at least some items over from the current Ventura that I've invested so much time with that won't come with the migration from the High Sierra - but not holding my breath that that will be possible.

Something interesting from yesterday I didn't mention before: had been discussing earlier the option to check Firewire booting in the OCLP settings https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/post-32708943

Not sure what was responsible for this, but after checking that option and then running the build, as soon as I opened the external drive, everything completely froze up. Mouse cursor, even with an older USB wired mouse, wouldn't budge. Eventually got unstuck, but not sure what fixed it. I ran the build again without checking that option and then did an SMC Reset. Very weird if it was that Firewire booting option; the external in question was Firewire connected.

Something that is possibly off-putting about erasing the internal and reinstalling is that the current color scheme in Firefox (also weirdly glitchy with some sites, including this one, where it can take a full minute to completely load), as well as the default folder colors, are a very garish, kind of neon blue. Have tried setting a different color profile, and adjusting the color of some of the desktop folders, but haven't found anything really satisfactory. Not the default folder colors, but I'm experiencing the same thing also with Firefox in the Cat volume. Have you noticed this, or has this been addressed anywhere? Or perhaps this is the result of not having installed the Ventura quite properly. Also it seems that the menubar is kind of greyed out (reducing transparency has no effect) and not as thick as I'm used to. Is this what normally comes with this OS?

 

[davidlv]

Ditto about Mike Bombich. I'm seeing that CCC version 1 was released January 18, 2002. Don't think I go quite that far back with CCC, but most likely started some time after I got my G3 iMac, purchased in '02 - last time I checked, still boots up.

He is indeed a real gem. Last year when I was setting up the Catalina (Patcher) he stayed with me for a back and forth over 2 or 3 days, in order to explain how to get a backup on the High Sierra using CCC 5. Incredibly patient and generous. Years ago he was very forthcoming publicly with some personal details. I remember him saying that he wouldn't be around for a day or 2 because of the birth of one of his kids. Must have been when CCC was an open forum.

Now that I have a backup, when the time comes and I do the proper erase and reinstall, it would be very nice if I'm able to move at least some items over from the current Ventura that I've invested so much time with that won't come with the migration from the High Sierra - but not holding my breath that that will be possible.

Something interesting from yesterday I didn't mention before: had been discussing the option to check Firewire booting. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...unsupported-macs-thread.2346881/post-32708943

Not sure what was responsible for this, but after checking that option and then running the build, as soon as I opened the external drive, everything completely froze up. Mouse cursor, even with an older USB wired mouse, wouldn't budge. Eventually got unstuck, but not sure what fixed it. I ran the build again without checking that option and then did an SMC Reset. Very weird if it was that Firewire booting option; the external in question was Firewire connected.

Something that is possibly off-putting about erasing the internal and reinstalling is that the current color scheme in Firefox (weirdly glitchy with some sites, including this one), as well as the default folder colors, are a very garish, kind of neon blue. Have tried setting a different color profile, and adjusting the color of some of the desktop folders, but haven't found anything really satisfactory. Not the default folder colors, but I'm experiencing the same thing also with Firefox in the Cat volume. Have you noticed this, or has this been addressed anywhere? Or perhaps this is the result of not having installed the Venura quite properly. Also it seems that the menubar, currently kind of greyed out (reducing transparency has no effect) and not as thick as I'm used to. Is this what normally comes with this OS?

Try using the System Settings, Display pane and set the TrueTone to OFF and the Display to Display P3.
Anything better? That was suggested by someone when some panes were blacked out in earlier Sonoma betas.

 

[RK78]

Try using the System Settings, Display pane and set the TrueTone to OFF and the Display to Display P3.
Anything better? That was suggested by someone when some panes were blacked out in earlier Sonoma betas.

Cool, will give that a try later on. Thanks.

EDIT: Uh oh, apparently not for this Mac.

This setting appears only for displays that support True Tone.

Use True Tone on Mac - Apple Support

True Tone technology makes the images on your Retina display and Touch Bar appear more natural.

support.apple.com

 

[K two]

macOS 13.6.3b OCLP v.1.2.1 yet another working Beta.
👏

 

[RK78]

Try using the System Settings, Display pane and set the TrueTone to OFF and the Display to Display P3.
Anything better? That was suggested by someone when some panes were blacked out in earlier Sonoma betas.

Hi David,

You may already have seen this, but it was an edit in my first reply, which you might have missed, so here it is again:

Uh oh, apparently not for this Mac.

This setting appears only for displays that support True Tone.

Use True Tone on your Mac - Apple Support​

True Tone technology makes the images on your Retina display and Touch Bar appear more natural.
support.apple.com

Use True Tone on Mac - Apple Support

True Tone technology makes the images on your Retina display and Touch Bar appear more natural.

support.apple.com

 

[davidlv]

macOS 13.6.3b OCLP v.1.2.1 yet another working Beta.
View attachment 2310443 👏

Me too.

 

[davidlv]

Hi David,

You may already have seen this, but it was an edit in my first reply, which you might have missed, so here it is again:

Uh oh, apparently not for this Mac.

This setting appears only for displays that support True Tone.

Use True Tone on your Mac - Apple Support​

True Tone technology makes the images on your Retina display and Touch Bar appear more natural.
support.apple.com

Use True Tone on Mac - Apple Support

True Tone technology makes the images on your Retina display and Touch Bar appear more natural.

support.apple.com

The important point of that last post was to try the Display P3 setting, rather than any of the other choices, for example Adobe RGB. The True Tone doesn't apply to your setup. Did you try that Display P3?

 

[davidlv]

The important point of that last post was to try the Display P3 setting, rather than any of the other choices, for example Adobe RGB. The True Tone doesn't apply to your setup. Did you try that Display P3?

In addition, I (and I assume many other users) have a hard time with the color scheme macOS uses for folders. The greenish, almost florescent tone looks terrible. So I looked for icon sets on the Deviant art site,

Explore the Best Icons Art | DeviantArt

Want to discover art related to icons? Check out amazing icons artwork on DeviantArt. Get inspired by our community of talented artists.

www.deviantart.com

Using those makes life a little better, at least the screen doesn't scream at me like it used to. You should be able to find something you like.

 

[RK78]

In addition, I (and I assume many other users) have a hard time with the color scheme macOS uses for folders. The greenish, almost florescent tone looks terrible. So I lookedd for icon sets on the Deviant art site,

Explore the Best Icons Art | DeviantArt

Want to discover art related to icons? Check out amazing icons artwork on DeviantArt. Get inspired by our community of talented artists.

www.deviantart.com

Using those makes life a little better, at least the screen doesn't scream at me like it used to. You should be able to find something you like.

Had previously tried P3, as well as all the others listed. Thanks for the link to deviant art. Far from what I'd really like, but for me this is the one with the least objectionable folder color:

 

[roysterdoyster]

MacBookPro4,1 successfully updated from 13.5 (on OCLP 1.2.1) ->Ventura 13.6.1 via OCLP 0.6.8.
OTA Update of macOS was flawless, Root patch however did n o t work via OCLP 1.2.1 and also not via OCLP 1.3.0n.
Had to revert to OCLP 0.6.8 to perform the Root patch.

 

[camelia]

Which build to do I have to download (InstallAssistant.pkg) for a MBP 15" Mid 2014 Intel i7 2.8 GHz 16 GB NVIDIA GF GT 750M from
https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-ventura-13-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/
to use with OpenCore Legacy Patcher v1.2.1?

Build 22G313
Build 22G320
Build 22G2321

Thanks
Camelia