macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[dandeco]

Oh no! After work today I updated the OCLP on my MacBookPro11,4 to 1.2.1 (before that it was still on 1.1.0) and began to re-install the post root patches, and now it won't boot! Not even into Safe Mode! It just hangs a quarter of the way through loading.

Unusually, the loading bar is now closer to the bottom ala Mac OS 14 Sonoma, despite being a Ventura install. What could have gone wrong?!
Looks like I'll have to wipe and re-install the system all over again... for the third time!

 

[K two]

Oh no! After work today I updated the OCLP on my MacBookPro11,4 to 1.2.1 (before that it was still on 1.1.0) and began to re-install the post root patches, and now it won't boot! Not even into Safe Mode! It just hangs a quarter of the way through loading.
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Unusually, the loading bar is now closer to the bottom ala Mac OS 14 Sonoma, despite being a Ventura install. What could have gone wrong?!
Looks like I'll have to wipe and re-install the system all over again... for the third time!

Before you do anything - rebuild NVRAM. As soon as OCLP (OpenCanopy) appears on a restart from a cold boot, hit the Spacebar, index the selector to the far right and rebuild NVRAM from there. 🧐

 

[K two]

Decided I wanted to upgrade from the last Monterey version to Ventura using Open Core. Help what do I do. Once I get to “Select the disk where you want to install macOS” It says “There is not enough free space on the selected volume to upgrade the OS. An additional 21.91 GB is required. This is so strange, I triple checked to make sure I had enough storage for this and now all of a sudden it says I have 7.29 GB available. I’m completely lost pls help

Knowing how to remove snapshots will definitely help. 😎

 

[davidlv]

Knowing how to remove snapshots will definitely help. 😎

After several posts, christian1738 still hasn't posted his hardware, the OCLP version involved or anything necessary to provide applicable help. Snapshots are the least of his problem at the moment, as he is stuck, beached or hung, as you prefer, during the boot sequence. This is a case where "Hmmm..." might be appropriate. What do you think?

 

[K two]

After several posts, christian1738 still hasn't posted his hardware, the OCLP version involved or anything necessary to provide applicable help. Snapshots are the least of his problem at the moment, as he is stuck, beached or hung, as you prefer, during the boot sequence. This is a case where "Hmmm..." might be appropriate. What do you think?

Agreed, insufficient information. Depends on, once he gets it running, how many snapshots there are on his boot disk.

 

[K two]

Thank you for your reply, I will post in the appropriate section in search for answers.

You are there, currently. Need more info - Mac Model, OS, OCLP version???

 

[rbart]

Better? In what way? 👀

From 1.2.1 to 1.3.0, safari feels smoother 😉

 

[PhoneandPad]

So I've got my 2010 iMac up to Ventura now using OCLP. Thinking of doing same for my wife's 2015 iMac which is currently booting and running moderately well from a 2TB portable SSD due to its Fusion Drive having self destructed. But the Mojave OS on it is getting seriously unsupported these days and my last attempt to use the Apple update to move to Catalina ended in disaster.

My general question is, can I use the OCLP Ventura installer USB that I made on the 2010 model to upgrade the 2015 one? Was thinking that maybe OCLP builds a hardware specific installer. Anyway to be on the safe side I'm slowly building the installer from the 2015 iMac now, but am curious on that point as I'd then be able to reuse one of my USB sticks for something else.

 

[deeveedee]

My general question is, can I use the OCLP Ventura installer USB that I made on the 2010 model to upgrade the 2015 one? Was thinking that maybe OCLP builds a hardware specific installer. Anyway to be on the safe side I'm slowly building the installer from the 2015 iMac now, but am curious on that point as I'd then be able to reuse one of my USB sticks for something else.

OCLP's "Build and Install Open Core" does build an Open Core boot-loader that is specific to the Mac Model. By default, OCLP detects the Mac Model and customizes the Open Core EFI for the detected Mac Model. If you want to build an Open Core boot-loader for a Mac Model different from the model on which you are running OCLP, you must override the target model in OCLP > Settings:

Select the desired Target model from the Host Model pull-down menu, inspect and change (if necessary) other OCLP Open Core settings and then "Build and Install Open Core." Since you are overriding OCLP's default settings (because it can't auto-detect them), you'll need to do your homework and be prepared to experiment.

 

[K two]

macOS 13.6.3 release OTA, OCLP v.1.2.1 runs as intended.

 

[PhoneandPad]

OCLP's "Build and Install Open Core" does build an Open Core boot-loader that is specific to the Mac Model.
Select the desired Target model from the Host Model pull-down menu, inspect and change (if necessary) other OCLP Open Core settings and then "Build and Install Open Core." Since you are overriding OCLP's default settings (because it can't auto-detect them), you'll need to do your homework and be prepared to experiment.

Spot on answer thanks, exactly what I wanted to know.

 

[camelia]

Hello,

A) Which build number is macOS Ventura Safari Version 17.1v2 (x) download it from

macOS Safari Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!
https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-safari-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/ ?

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/46/61/042-97570-A_65K4XXT34Y/3lmwo9as7wnl4m38x2gngcpgpeqw5t5c2i/Safari17.1VenturaAuto.pkg

B) Will this version run if I install it in a MBP 15" Mid 2014 Intel i7 2.8 GHz 16 GB NVIDIA GF GT 750M after creating my new boot USB Stick with the latest version of Ventura with OCLP?

Thanks
Camelia

 

[davidlv]

Hello,

A) Which build number is macOS Ventura Safari Version 17.1v2 (x) download it from

macOS Safari Full Installer Database. Download Directly from Apple!
https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-safari-full-installer-database-download-directly-from-apple/ ?

https://swcdn.apple.com/content/downloads/46/61/042-97570-A_65K4XXT34Y/3lmwo9as7wnl4m38x2gngcpgpeqw5t5c2i/Safari17.1VenturaAuto.pkg

B) Will this version run if I install it in a MBP 15" Mid 2014 Intel i7 2.8 GHz 16 GB NVIDIA GF GT 750M after creating my new boot USB Stick with the latest version of Ventura with OCLP?

Thanks
Camelia

That version should work with Ventura, the Mr. Macintosh site is rarely that wrong.
That said, as posted on the page you mentioned, the best practice is to install Ventura and after everything settles down, look in the software update pane and look for the "Other updates available". You probably will get a long list of things related to Sonoma and you will have to scroll down a long way to see that "Other updates available".
That may show an update to Safari.
Personally, I use Brave, based on ungoogled-Chromium, aas it gets updates automatically (or started if you hit the "About Brave" menu item. Turn off the Rewards function and it is lean and fast. Personal opinion only.

 

[mnlth0]

Hi all, this may be answered but I couldn't find searching. Is anyone stuck at EFI bootloader white screen and that every second boot actually works only after using option key? I upgraded from Mac OS Monterey (latest) to Ventura 13.6.1. Upgrade itself went smooth, followed MrMacinthosh guide as well.

After booting successfully into Ventura, updating EFI partition with OpenCore, confirming everything works in OS itself I reboot, hold alt to pick EFI and it doesn't always boot well. Specifically, its just stuck on white screen on apple chime. I understand I need to hold alt first time after updating EFI / opencore but after that it should boot always from it. Sadly thats not the case with me.

So to clarify, when I press power button the following happens:

* it gets stuck on white screen, original EFI bootloader if I don't hold alt
* if I hold alt / option, it will offer opencore from which I can boot.
* every time I would update bootloader before, I would have to boot only once using option key to select opencore, after which it would remember it. However that's no longer the case.

I'm using Mac Pro 5,1 with nvme.

Thanks!

 

[reppresident]

Hi all, this may be answered but I couldn't find searching. Is anyone stuck at EFI bootloader white screen and that every second boot actually works only after using option key? I upgraded from Mac OS Monterey (latest) to Ventura 13.6.1. Upgrade itself went smooth, followed MrMacinthosh guide as well.

After booting successfully into Ventura, updating EFI partition with OpenCore, confirming everything works in OS itself I reboot, hold alt to pick EFI and it doesn't always boot well. Specifically, its just stuck on white screen on apple chime. I understand I need to hold alt first time after updating EFI / opencore but after that it should boot always from it. Sadly thats not the case with me.

So to clarify, when I press power button the following happens:

* it gets stuck on white screen, original EFI bootloader if I don't hold alt
* if I hold alt / option, it will offer opencore from which I can boot.
* every time I would update bootloader before, I would have to boot only once using option key to select opencore, after which it would remember it. However that's no longer the case.

I'm using Mac Pro 5,1 with nvme.

Thanks!

Did you try to bless the drive you want to boot priority with ctrl + enter on the bootloader. It should work this way. Hope this helps

 

[mnlth0]

@reppresident thank you, that was a good tip... its been a while since I upgraded macOS so I forgot about the CTRL part now it does boot it indeed using the right bootloader. however I still have another problem, or rather, I just realized I had two problems:

1. white screen - now fixed thanks to ctrl + enter bless / selection
2. first boot will always fail and I need to manually boot again using alt.

Specifically what happens is:

1. I boot using opencore.
2. system starts complaining about failed to load drivers and kexts (see attachment please).
3. restarts automatically and then gets stuck at the white screen.

Am I supposed to enable something else in opencore? I have default settings + disabled trim and tried with enabled / disabled nvme booting. Same issue.

Please note that when I boot using alt / option - it works fine. Opencore shows that I am booting from EFI partition of my hdd.

Thank you!

 

[dandeco]

Before you do anything - rebuild NVRAM. As soon as OCLP (OpenCanopy) appears on a restart from a cold boot, hit the Spacebar, index the selector to the far right and rebuild NVRAM from there. 🧐

Well, I got the problem AGAIN! This time I tried resetting the NVRAM, but nothing happened. I think it tried to automatically upgrade to Mac OS 14 Sonoma, because the Macintosh SSD icon on the boot menu is in Sonoma colors, and the loading bar that keeps failing is closer to the bottom like on Sonoma. This happened when I had to re-apply the post-install root patches after my MacBookPro11,4 booted up without them working. And among doing that, it essentially bricked the system! Is this a bug OCLP 1.2.1 has or something?

 

[deeveedee]

Ventura 13.6.1 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 continues to work flawlessly on my MBP6,2. After review of the OCLP 1.x.x commits, I still don't see any reason (for me) to upgrade beyond OCLP 0.6.8 with Ventura. Continuing to monitor OCLP progress, since eventually, I'd like to have all of my working macOS Volumes (Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura and Sonoma) patched with the same version of OCLP. At this time, I'm still using OCLP 0.6.8 with Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura and OCLP 1.2.1 with Sonoma.

 

[davidlv]

Ventura 13.6.1 patched with OCLP 0.6.8 continues to work flawlessly on my MBP6,2. After review of the OCLP 1.x.x commits, I still don't see any reason (for me) to upgrade beyond OCLP 0.6.8 with Ventura. Continuing to monitor OCLP progress, since eventually, I'd like to have all of my working macOS Volumes (Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura and Sonoma) patched with the same version of OCLP. At this time, I'm still using OCLP 0.6.8 with Big Sur, Monterey, Ventura and OCLP 1.2.1 with Sonoma.

The OCLP version thing can be confusing, I have Ventura 3.6.3 (updated OTA on ethernet from 13.6.1) running version 1.2.1 on my iMAc 15,1. Well, whatever works, works

 

[K two]

Well, I got the problem AGAIN! This time I tried resetting the NVRAM, but nothing happened. I think it tried to automatically upgrade to Mac OS 14 Sonoma, because the Macintosh SSD icon on the boot menu is in Sonoma colors, and the loading bar that keeps failing is closer to the bottom like on Sonoma. This happened when I had to re-apply the post-install root patches after my MacBookPro11,4 booted up without them working. And among doing that, it essentially bricked the system! Is this a bug OCLP 1.2.1 has or something?

When resetting NVRAM from Open Canopy, did it reboot immediately? 🤔 Did it update fully? If it updated to 14.2b2 or 3 it will boot-loop. A clean install to 14.0 or .1 from USB will fix it.

 

[dandeco]

When resetting NVRAM from Open Canopy, did it reboot immediately? 🤔 Did it update fully?

I tried that, and it did reboot immediately, but I still have the problem.
Now that I'm on a Mac again, here are photos of the issues I was referring to...

Open Canopy icon is in Sonoma colors when it's supposed to be a Ventura system.

The load bar shifted to the bottom instead of near the center, like in Sonoma.

I will give the Recovery Mode a shot, see if I can re-install the OS that way.

 

[dandeco]

Ahhhwhoops, duplicate post.

 

[K two]

I tried that, but I still have the problem.
Now that I'm on a Mac again, here are photos of the issues I was referring to...
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Open Canopy icon is in Sonoma colors when it's supposed to be a Ventura system.

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The load bar shifted to the bottom instead of near the center, like in Sonoma.

I will give the Recovery Mode a shot, see if I can re-install the OS that way.

Hit the Spacebar upon seeing Open Canopy, move all the way to the right to reset NVRAM. Looks like it updated.

 

[dandeco]

Hit the Spacebar upon seeing Open Canopy, move all the way to the right to reset NVRAM. Looks like it updated.

Yep, I tried that, but it didn't work. And Recovery Mode won't open, either...

 

[K two]

Yep, I tried that, but it didn't work. And Recovery Mode won't open, either...

Looks like a version Sonoma installed. Hopefully, it's not a beta. Having at least two partitions on a main drive is very helpful. Having two versions of macOS installed makes testing a hack like OCLP far less problematic or an external drive would be good, too.