macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[Larsvonhier]

Check activity monitor to see if any stray tasks block or hog too much of your CPU resources.
There are some known suspects as has been reported before.
Indexing for spotlight might also be taking resources, so that would have to finish first.

 

[MacPeet]

I believe the combined WiFi-BT card in the cMP 3,1 is connected via PCIe and not via USB. Also the screenshot shows that WiFi is working so perhaps a separate Kext problem with BT.

Update: I checked it on my cMP and it looks like that BT is indeed connected via USB as opposed to WiFi. Never thought this could happen with the same card.

My screenshot shows BT not working. BT is always connected to USB. My BCM94360CD is on an adapter to PCIe and is via cable to USB for BT, which works until Monterey. But there are new kexts (USB1.1) for Ventura with minKernel 22. Maybe it's because it doesn't work anymore. I am thankful for every hint.

 

[macinfo]

macOS 13 Ventura Beta 10 (22A5365d) released to developers

 

[il-rollino]

@mortiis
It could also be this:

Broken Power Management on Ivy Bridge and older

• CPU stuck at base clock, won't idle lower or boost

 

[sinbad21]

@mortiis
It could also be this:

I have an Ivy Bridge and Ventura is slower than Monterey. Not sure that comes from Power Management, because the boost of CPU is activated only in extreme situations, not in a normal utilization.

I rather think that it comes from the lack of AVX2 instructions, and the necessity to use a kind of emulator to translate those instructions.

 

[khronokernel]

I rather think that it comes from the lack of AVX2 instructions, and the necessity to use a kind of emulator to translate those instructions.

We're not using an emulator? We're using our CryptexFixup kext:

• https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup

Also have you considered we're still in betas, and Monterey had a whole year of refinement? The Ventura itself is still very heavy and has a ton of excessive logging, and needs optimizations that will slowly be added as months come. (and y'know, power management's botched on Ivy Bridge)

 

[MacHosehead]

My screenshot shows BT not working. BT is always connected to USB. My BCM94360CD is on an adapter to PCIe and is via cable to USB for BT, which works until Monterey. But there are new kexts (USB1.1) for Ventura with minKernel 22. Maybe it's because it doesn't work anymore. I am thankful for every hint.

I would wait longer for a software fix.

The alternative would be routing the USB connection on the wifi/bt card to a supported USB card in a PCIe slot. I previously tried this and it worked but you lose the ability to wake with bluetooth and I had to toggle bluetooth off/on after sleeping. You would also need a male USB to terminal adapter or similar. For MP3,1 you might have to cut traces on the adapter board.

 

[bestal]

We're not using an emulator? We're using our CryptexFixup kext:

• https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup

Also have you considered we're still in betas, and Monterey had a whole year of refinement? The Ventura itself is still very heavy and has a ton of excessive logging, and needs optimizations that will slowly be added as months come. (and y'know, power management's botched on Ivy Bridge)

you are right..Your actions will light the future.congratulations.👏👏👏
Waiting Impatiently.....

 

[biznickmc92]

Everything seems good so far, iMac 21.5" (2013) much more stable compared to a few weeks ago. Graphics, Wi-fi, and Bluetooth functioning correctly.

 

[fernando.c.neves]

Real Mac (MacBook Pro 13'' Retina - Early 2015) - All Working like a charm.
Version 13.0 Beta 10 (22A5365d).

Only need to patch with OCLP 0.5.0 again.

 

[macpro_mid2014]

Apple finally fixed the black screen on Google maps (WebGL via Metal) in Safari Version 16.1 (18614.2.9.1.4) in Ventura beta 10.

 

[coolio2004]

As always I donˋt get OTA update on my broadwell MBA with newest compiled 0.50. On my Haswell iMac OTA appears at once. Any Idea?

 

[hvds]

As always I donˋt get OTA update on my broadwell MBA with newest compiled 0.50. On my Haswell iMac OTA appears at once. Any Idea?

Does it appear after this in Terminal:

sudo /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Seeding.framework/Versions/A/Resources/seedutil enroll DeveloperSeed

I have it often on my MBP5,2 and then this brings it back. Not sure it has to do with OCLP.

 

[coolio2004]

Does it appear after this in Terminal:

sudo /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Seeding.framework/Versions/A/Resources/seedutil enroll DeveloperSeed

I have it often on my MBP5,2 and then this brings it back. Not sure it has to do with OCLP.

this shows terminal
Enrollment was successful



Program: DeveloperSeed

Is Enrolled: YES

Build is seed: YES

CatalogURL: https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

NSShowFeedbackMenu: YES

DisableSeedOptOut: NO

Asset Audience: 683e9586-8a82-4e5f-b0e7-767541864b8b

If I install the beta profile again, update shows Ventura full install but it was 358e.

 

[coolio2004]

Apple finally fixed the black screen on Google maps (WebGL via Metal) in Safari Version 16.1 (18614.2.9.1.4) in Ventura beta 10.

in Beta 9 I had no black screen as well.

 

[Portiere]

I updated from beta 8 to beta 9 one of my 2012 minis.
I downloaded with MDS and from Desktop I launched 22A5358e app. It takes about 1 hour.
No os.dmg and KDK needed just OCLP 0.5.0.
Very important it doesn'take more space.
Please don't do anything if you are not very very sure of what you are doing, cause I am not responsible of any damage can happen.
Thanks very very much to all wonderful developers

 

[TOM1211]

Beta 10 (with OCLP updates) has fixed the crashes I was still having with widgets on beta 9.
Only thing I find is the log in is unusable after updating OTA flickering on and off a forced shutdown and restart fixes the issue everytime after patching its fine only occurs on updating.
Amazing how well the oclp team have done so far to keep these macs on the latest software.

 

[mortiis]

We're not using an emulator? We're using our CryptexFixup kext:

• https://github.com/acidanthera/CryptexFixup

Also have you considered we're still in betas, and Monterey had a whole year of refinement? The Ventura itself is still very heavy and has a ton of excessive logging, and needs optimizations that will slowly be added as months come. (and y'know, power management's botched on Ivy Bridge)

I want to ask about something OpenCore legacy patcher when I want disable ISP I check in the setting as not all of it disabled I get when check the status csrutil:
Configuration:

Apple Internal: disabled

Kext Signing: disabled

Filesystem Protections: disabled

Debugging Restrictions: enabled

DTrace Restrictions: enabled

NVRAM Protections: enabled

BaseSystem Verification: enabled

how can I get all of them disabled?

 

[StephN999]

Bonjour,

Upgraded to beta 10 without any problem, updated kexts for OC, updated OLPC to the latest OC version (0.8.5), the only problems are probably due to the Ventura beta, slower startup than Monterey, no settings/scheduling of startup and shutdown in the system settings (pmset works well under the terminal) etc...

 

[Sanmiguel71]

Beta 10 went fine here on iMac 17,1 with newest OCLP 0.5.0 incl. Post Install Patches. I had to manually install the latest available KDK (again), otherwise OCLP throws an error, that there is no appropriate KDK available. I was logged in with my developer account on the apple server...

What I discovered: AirPlay Receiver is not working here, I can activate it, allow access for all in the same network, but on iPhone (iOS 16.xx) my machine will not be detected... Anybody else?

 

[perez987]

@mortiis
OCLP sets SIP according to the Mac model and other settings, if it doesn’t disable SIP completely it’s better to keep it so. Or do you have a specific reason to do it?

 

[jonnyv34]

@mortiis
It could also be this:

I’m pretty sure it is the power management. My 2012 air is much slower than on Monterey because CPU doesn’t speed up above the 1.7 baseline. It gets too slow as this cpu is slow even at full speed. I hope developers in time find a solution (it will take time for sure but I’m confident these genius will find a solution as they have found for all the other set backs on Ventura.

 

[mortiis]

@mortiis
OCLP sets SIP according to the Mac model and other settings, if it doesn’t disable SIP completely it’s better to keep it so. Or do you have a specific reason to do it?

in order to install totalfinder it worked b4 OpenCore legacy patcher disabled it & I succeeded in installing totalfinder but now when I try to do it disable it with OpenCore nothing happens & when I tried to do it in recovery mode also I guess recovery mode is not working due to the EFI boot the OpenCore put in the hard

 

[hvds]

Updated OTA* from 13.0b9 to b10 on MBP5,2 on external SSD.
Using latest OCLP 050 ventura alpha from 3hrs ago. Root patching works well - limited use of course as it can't enable graphics acceleration on non-Metal GPUs, but has noticeable positive effects (background picture, display brightness control, sleep/wake). This MBP5,2 is a testing machine.

Thanks to khronokernel and dhinakg for providing an OCLP which, with ingenious Cryptex/AVX and KDK handling, provides support also to old machines which don't understand AVX instructions and need much root patching.

(* just to say that InstallAssistant.pkg for b10 is now also there)

 

[perez987]

@mortiis
Then I think you must change NVRAM >> Add >> 7C436110-AB2A-4BBB-A880-FE41995C9F82 >> csr-active-config to 6F020000 or 7F020000. Adding also (if it's not yet) csr-active-config in NVRAM >> Delete >> 7C436110-AB2A-4BBB-A880-FE41995C9F82.