macOS 13 Ventura on Unsupported Macs Thread

[fernando.c.neves]

As always I donˋt get OTA update on my broadwell MBA with newest compiled 0.50. On my Haswell iMac OTA appears at once. Any Idea?

Just set with OpenCore Configurator => SecureBootModel = Default.

Reset NVRAM.

Try again.

 

[khronokernel]

Just set with OpenCore Configurator => SecureBootModel = Default.

Reset NVRAM.

Try again.

SecureBootModel does not affect OTA for their system, please don't modify OCLP manually this way. People can easily brick their configs, and we'll tell them off as we're not going to support those configurations.

SecureBootModel on a pre-T2 Mac will set Target Type to x86legacy, which it already defaults to... No change will be made. We already implement VMM spoofing for OTA updates regardless which Apple will always support for as long as they support Virtual Machines.

If there's an issue with our VMM patches, we need to fix it. Not throw it under the rug.

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The actual solution to this is most likely just re-enrolling in the Developer Seed, an issue as old as Apple's had public betas:

# Enroll Developer Seed
sudo /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Seeding.framework/Resources/seedutil enroll DeveloperSeed
# Force Software Update scan
softwareupdate -l

 

[crystall1nedev]

The actual solution to this is most likely just re-enrolling in the Developer Seed, an issue as old as Apple's had public betas

Adding to this: it happens on fully supported machines as well (including my Mac mini with Apple Silicon.)

 

[Portiere]

Updated the same Mac mini as post 991 to beta 10.
Thanks once again to everybody.
Remember that the bar stalls 10 min at 28 min remaining and 5 at 27 (maybe it's different machine by machine).
It takes 40 minutes directly to desktop or login display no account configuration.

 

[Enrico Ferro]

Hi there, i managed to install Ventura on Macmini Late 2012 using OCLP alpha 0.5.0, but i have some problem i had even before: Finder freeze if i open it form the icon (non if i open it from download icon...), or i search something; Spotlight freeze as soon as i try to write some letter for searching!
Even if i try to take a screenshot it freeze
And the Mac Apple Store sometimes doesn't load... and sometime load.

I don't think this is due to Ventura, but to OCLP, because i started having this problem after updating OCLP with previous OS version...

Does somebody know how to fix?

I thought i would fix after installing the new OS version, but nothing...

If it's possible, i would like to fix these problems without having to format my SSD and make a clean install...

Thansk

 

[coolio2004]

SecureBootModel does not affect OTA for their system, please don't modify OCLP manually this way. People can easily brick their configs, and we'll tell them off as we're not going to support those configurations.

SecureBootModel on a pre-T2 Mac will set Target Type to x86legacy, which it already defaults to... No change will be made. We already implement VMM spoofing for OTA updates regardless which Apple will always support for as long as they support Virtual Machines.

If there's an issue with our VMM patches, we need to fix it. Not throw it under the rug.

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The actual solution to this is most likely just re-enrolling in the Developer Seed, an issue as old as Apple's had public betas:

# Enroll Developer Seed
sudo /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Seeding.framework/Resources/seedutil enroll DeveloperSeed
# Force Software Update scan
softwareupdate -l

This is the terminal result:
Enrolling...



2022-10-06 09:27:14.193 seedutil[831:7248] audiences result was 0

Enrollment was successful


Program: DeveloperSeed

Is Enrolled: YES

Build is seed: YES

CatalogURL: https://swscan.apple.com/content/ca...ion-snowleopard-leopard.merged-1.sucatalog.gz

NSShowFeedbackMenu: YES

DisableSeedOptOut: NO

Asset Audience: 683e9586-8a82-4e5f-b0e7-767541864b8b

hans@MacBook-Air ~ % softwareupdate -l

Software Update Tool



Finding available software
No new software available.

Notice: iMac Haswell shows Ventura beta10 but full installer.

 

[borp99]

I've tried out Beta 9 on my cMP5,1, with the latest 0.5.0a. Just the known graphics acceleration problem exists; everything else is working fine - which is gratefully appreciated at this stage of development. However, I'm only getting 1 monitor recognised (from my Radeon R9 280X 'Taihiti', miniDP port #1) and not the other monitor on the DVI port, which works up to/incl. Monterey. Is the lack of dual or multiple monitors also a symptom of the Ventura legacy graphics issues? I don't think I've read anyone else comment about this matter.

 

[shafez]

I made some Geekbench 5 tests on Monterey and Ventura b10 and it shows Monterey is a lot faster then Ventura in Multicore and Open CL tests, Metal test crashes on Ventura, Ventura does feel slow on my MacBook Pro 11,1.

 

[mortiis]

@mortiis
Then I think you must change NVRAM >> Add >> 7C436110-AB2A-4BBB-A880-FE41995C9F82 >> csr-active-config to 6F020000 or 7F020000. Adding also (if it's not yet) csr-active-config in NVRAM >> Delete >> 7C436110-AB2A-4BBB-A880-FE41995C9F82.

I do not understand how to do this I m not a programmer can you explain how to do that please??

 

[MacPeet]

I would wait longer for a software fix.

The alternative would be routing the USB connection on the wifi/bt card to a supported USB card in a PCIe slot. I previously tried this and it worked but you lose the ability to wake with bluetooth and I had to toggle bluetooth off/on after sleeping. You would also need a male USB to terminal adapter or similar. For MP3,1 you might have to cut traces on the adapter board.

Thanks for your hints. Yes, I will first wait for new OCLP versions.

There are many new kexts, including new USB1.1 kexts with MinKernel 22 in the new OCLP-EFI for cMP3,1.

Correct, USB mapping is broken.

Monterey:





Ventura:





I have also tried all USB ports. No success. So I'm waiting.

 

[Larsvonhier]

Thanks for your hints. Yes, I will first wait for new OCLP versions.

There are many new kexts, including new USB1.1 kexts with MinKernel 22 in the new OCLP-EFI for cMP3,1.

Correct, USB mapping is broken.

Monterey:

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Ventura:

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I have also tried all USB ports. No success. So I'm waiting.

You can circumvent it on cMP3,1 by using a simple (even non-powered) USB hub attached to any of the built-in USB2 ports, connect your kbd/mouse to it and you're fine...

 

[chris1111]

A new background for the Tribute theme included macOS Ventura 13
5K image attaching to this post, resize it to your need.

 

[perez987]

I do not understand how to do this I m not a programmer can you explain how to do that please??

You aren’t a developer but an OCLP user. You must check OCLP guides. Since OCLP is based on OpenCore, you must look for structure and edition of the config.plist file. Afterwards, open config.plist with a plain text editor (TextEdit is valid if you save the file as plain text). Look for the keys and change them.
I think that a minimal or moderate skills about OpenCore and how to set it are required to have OC or OCLP.

 

[kocoman]

why firefox when i type an address and press enter it does not do anything? using beta 10 ventura thx

and the app store have this popup saying cannot connect retry then I can close it and use it normally?

the time zone keeps showing india even i type new york for closest city.. then lets say I set it correctly, press back then it reverts.. have to run


sudo systemsetup -settimezone America/New_York

its long way to before GM...

 

[Larsvonhier]

Success with MBP4,1 (17" glossy HD screen) and latest nightly of OCLP 0.5.0.
Latest power management improvements seem to have done the trick. Still strange verbose boot output, logging ends with "PCI config. start" then 1-2min. HDD activity, then login window.
Also peculiar: In addition to FireWire and Ethernet also "monitor controller" shows up as expresscard and can be disabled from menu bar (thus shutting down the screen/backlight etc.!).

 

[macinfo]

Any success stories with MBP4,1 and older iMacs?
(I know that the MP6,1 is a special problem case, just wanted to share the observation that it stalls out at the same boot step).

I would also be interested in any experiences with a MBP4,1. So far I wasn’t even able to fully start up from the installer located on a bootable USB flash drive created via createinstallmedia, EFI patched with current 0.5.0alpha.

The installer stops at a very early stage, empty progress bar under the apple logo appears then gets stuck. Also tried verbose mode, listed messages seem to be similar to the ones Larsvonhier received.

Edit: @Larsvonhier .. ah, right know while I was typing/asking. Must be reading my mind. ;-)

Possibly the installer has to be run from within an already booted OS like Monterey on that machine or as an OTA update over the current one?

 

[Larsvonhier]

I would also be interested in any experiences with a MBP4,1. So far I wasn’t even able to fully load and run the installer located on a bootable USB flash drive created via createinstallmedia, EFI patched with current 0.5.0alpha.

The installer stops at a very early stage, empty progress bar under the apple logo appears then gets stuck. Also tried verbose mode, listed messages seem to be similar to the ones Larsvonhier received.

Edit: @Larsvonhier .. ah, right know while I was typing/asking. Must be reading my mind. ;-)

Possibly the installer has to be run from within an already booted OS like Monterey on that machine or as an OTA update over the current one?

I have not directly installed Ventura on the MBP4,1 but transferred the drive from another unsupported machine to the MBP4,1. I personally postpone such fresh installs to when things come out of beta phases... ;-)
(Exception: Systems with GPU acceleration that are already usable with Ventura as a main OS).

 

[kocoman]

I would also be interested in any experiences with a MBP4,1. So far I wasn’t even able to fully start up from the installer located on a bootable USB flash drive created via createinstallmedia, EFI patched with current 0.5.0alpha.

The installer stops at a very early stage, empty progress bar under the apple logo appears then gets stuck. Also tried verbose mode, listed messages seem to be similar to the ones Larsvonhier received.

Edit: @Larsvonhier .. ah, right know while I was typing/asking. Must be reading my mind. ;-)

Possibly the installer has to be run from within an already booted OS like Monterey on that machine or as an OTA update over the current one?

add the cryxxx.kext from a fresh install, worked for me in ivy bridge, hd4000, p4000.. you need sip 803 instead of 802 and the amfigetoutofmyway=1. very nice.. need complie your own oclp 5a.. but need close and reopen terminal after install pyinstaller else complain of missing module, the file in in dist dir not in build dir as a site suggested

 

[amaze1499]

Upgrade done using standalone USB installer and OCLP 0.5.0. Had a few hiccups while preparing and during installation. Got Ventura up and running eventually along with Monterey on the second partition of the same SSD.

@khronokernel et al: Thank you for your hard work. Its much appreciated!

 

[Painkiller]

Hello everybody
just gave it a try and tried to install Ventura b9 with OCLP 0.5.0 on my 2011 IMAC.
specs:

before it comes to the GUI the screen gets dark and nothing happens afterwards. I did it onto a second internal ssd , so I can always switch back to Monterey. Is there any possibility to read a log file or something where I can get to know what's the issue. Ive seen a couple of working installations with the same iMac.
I use a USB Installer . so its a blank installation.

 

[kocoman]

Hello everybody
just gave it a try and tried to install Ventura b9 with OCLP 0.5.0 on my 2011 IMAC.
specs:

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before it comes to the GUI the screen gets dark and nothing happens afterwards. I did it onto a second internal ssd , so I can always switch back to Monterey. Is there any possibility to read a log file or something where I can get to know what's the issue. Ive seen a couple of working installations with the same iMac.
I use a USB Installer . so its a blank installation.

you installed the in opencore lilu and crypt.kext and do a full reinstall of ventura?

 

[hvds]

As the KDK for 130b10 is now available, re-applied root patches with the latest OCLP 050 to my 130b10 installation on MBP5,2.
OCLP found, installed and merged the new KDK.
Thanks khronokernel and dhinakg!

 

[jonnyv34]

Just updated to beta 1o on my MacBook Air 2012. Used the latest OCLP 0.5.O and everything works fine, now there are no longer issues with power management, so o now CPU runs at full speed. What an amazing team, even a week ago they were not sure how would the power management be fixed.

 

[vince22]

Just updated to beta 1o on my MacBook Air 2012. Used the latest OCLP 0.5.O and everything works fine, now there are no longer issues with power management, so o now CPU runs at full speed. What an amazing team, even a week ago they were not sure how would the power management be fixed.

great news indeed, can't wait OCLP 0.5.0 release, hopefully soon. Thanks for all the devs whose involved.

 

[Painkiller]

you installed the in opencore lilu and crypt.kext and do a full reinstall of ventura?

yes full reinstall and the EFI structure is complete. Though there isn't any crypt.kext but a cryptexfixup.kext 😁. Just what OCLP v0.5.0 installed to the efi partition on the Ventura ssd. but because I can't complete the setup I can't run the OCLP Tool in Ventura. I am wondering what I missed 🤔.