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perez987

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Thank you bu link is not working, 404
Do you have a GitHub account? It’s free. Without it, the file is not available. I can download the app from the posted link even in my iPad.

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idenis42

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Quadro K2000M video card works in Monterey and Venture systems, metal works!
The Quadro P5000M graphics card runs on the Monterey system, metal works! And in the Venture system, it requires KDK. I don't understand. Why KDK??????????????????????? OCLP does not require KDK for K2000M. And for P5000M requires KDK. After all, the P5000M supports metal. I won't install KDK because it kills the graphics card accelerator!
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khronokernel

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Quadro K2000M video card works in Monterey and Venture systems, metal works!
The Quadro P5000M graphics card runs on the Monterey system, metal works! And in the Venture system, it requires KDK. I don't understand. Why KDK??????????????????????? OCLP does not require KDK for K2000M. And for P5000M requires KDK. After all, the P5000M supports metal. I won't install KDK because it kills the graphics card accelerator!
Again, @Ausdauersportler already told you. Don't use the "Force Web Drivers" option. It forces your GPU into non-Metal rendering mode. The option is solely there for development purposes, no practical application for end users. I feel like I should put a paywall/password up on OCLP's settings.

And the reason there's a KDK check is the non-Metal would require a KDK due to the nature of IOSurface swapping. And there's no non-Metal support in Ventura at this time:
Also please be more respectful and stop acting like you're in authority. We have enough misinformation floating around due to this thread, would really like to clean it up. Remember, people a year from now will be reading this thread for research...

Ironic the once in a blue moon I comment here is for this.


While I'm here, might as well make some general comments on Ventura support for the community. Namely what to expect when we do release OCLP 0.5.0 to the general public.

Currently we're quite happy with progress internally on legacy Metal. Still need a fair amount of love for the patches, however for the most part they're usable.

Regarding current issues, we believe these ones will remain broken by release time:
  • USB 1.1 support
    • Applicable for Penryn and Cheese Grater Mac Pros
    • ie. Bluetooth, Internal Keyboard/Mouse
  • Legacy Wireless support
    • Applicable Wifi cards needing root patches in Monterey
    • ie. Atheros, BCM94328, BCM94322
  • Non-Metal Graphics Acceleration
    • AMD TeraScale 1/2, Nvidia Tesla/Web Drivers, Intel Ironlake and Sandy Bridge
  • MacPro6,1 Boot Support
  • Broken Power Management on Ivy Bridge and older
    • CPU stuck at base clock, won't idle lower or boost
And other issues are listed on the Ventura issue, above are the main noteworthy concerns:


Otherwise that's all from me for now, I'll be returning to my cave again and hammering through some more development. Hope everyone's enjoying the work we've been putting out so far.

- Mykola
 

idenis42

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Again, @Ausdauersportler already told you. Don't use the "Force Web Drivers" option. It forces your GPU into non-Metal rendering mode. The option is solely there for development purposes, no practical application for end users. I feel like I should put a paywall/password up on OCLP's settings.

And the reason there's a KDK check is the non-Metal would require a KDK due to the nature of IOSurface swapping. And there's no non-Metal support in Ventura at this time:
Also please be more respectful and stop acting like you're in authority. We have enough misinformation floating around due to this thread, would really like to clean it up. Remember, people a year from now will be reading this thread for research...

Ironic the once in a blue moon I comment here is for this.


While I'm here, might as well make some general comments on Ventura support for the community. Namely what to expect when we do release OCLP 0.5.0 to the general public.

Currently we're quite happy with progress internally on legacy Metal. Still need a fair amount of love for the patches, however for the most part they're usable.

Regarding current issues, we believe these ones will remain broken by release time:
  • USB 1.1 support
    • Applicable for Penryn and Cheese Grater Mac Pros
    • ie. Bluetooth, Internal Keyboard/Mouse
  • Legacy Wireless support
    • Applicable Wifi cards needing root patches in Monterey
    • ie. Atheros, BCM94328, BCM94322
  • Non-Metal Graphics Acceleration
    • AMD TeraScale 1/2, Nvidia Tesla/Web Drivers, Intel Ironlake and Sandy Bridge
  • MacPro6,1 Boot Support
  • Broken Power Management on Ivy Bridge and older
    • CPU stuck at base clock, won't idle lower or boost
And other issues are listed on the Ventura issue, above are the main noteworthy concerns:


Otherwise that's all from me for now, I'll be returning to my cave again and hammering through some more development. Hope everyone's enjoying the work we've been putting out so far.

- Mykola
I like your work! I'm acting like I am. I have no power over this. I like to understand something new. I like to look for reasons and find the answer in problems.
OCLP quietly launches a patch for K2000M without KDK.
But OCLP does not want to launch a patch for P5000M, and requires KDK. I understand the reasons. But it's easier to bypass KDK and install the patch quietly. I understand everything. I just installed jdk and the graphics card accelerator disappeared. Therefore, I want to bypass KDK in setting up OCLP. :)
 

Dave1423

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Welp I can say I successfully installed Ventura Beta 9? using the Alpha Patcher linked here on a 13" Late 2013 MacBook Pro MBP11,1 and it was incredibly easy too

Thanks For a Great Patcher
 

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schmalen

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Could get my iMac late 2012 running with the latest Ventura alpha 0.5.0 nightly? Got my HP machine running which has a Haswell CPU and the HD4600 iGPU with the latest patch.
 
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StephN999

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Hello,
While I had made a reason and thought that my machine would remain under Monterey (Macmini6,1).
I am just amazed at the work provided by the developer and tester, I have not tested long but the system seems perfectly functional, even the beta of Ventura seems very mature.

A huge thank you!!!👍
 

Dave1423

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Jul 19, 2020
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Question: when I try to install open core onto a 128gb apple ssd I get this anybody have a solution maybe a script or what?
 

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Larsvonhier

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Extending the lower end...
Here is my MacBook 4,1 running Ventura. Of course limited by missing GPU acceleration (won't come, since it is an Intel x3100 type) and the USB 1,1 issue. So to get some access, I pre-installed Teleport and then transferred the SSD to the internal bay, just for the proof-of-concept.

Interesting side notes: The Ethernet hardware is seen as PCI express card (which is obviously isn't) but otherwise works fine. Same happens with FireWire on some machines. Could be useful for the devs, so I attach it here:

Name: ethernet
Type: Ethernet-Controller
Driver installed: YesJ
MSI: Yes
Bus: PCI
Vendor-ID: 0x11ab
Device-ID: 0x436a
Subsystem-Vendor-ID: 0x11ab
Subsystem-ID: 0x00ba
Version-ID: 0x0013
Link: x1
Link-Speed: 2.5 GT/s
 

Dave1423

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Jul 19, 2020
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no I have 97GB left
 

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hvds

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I'm continuing some post-install patch exercises on MBP5,2 (13.0b9, OCLP 050 from yesterday). I saw a difficulty to disable AMFI earlier (others as well?) and looked closer this time. AMFI should be disabled automatically but isn't.
I think it is likely a Python problem in resources/sys_patch_detect.py: the dictionary root_patch_dict has a conditional expression regarding "Validation: AMFI is enabled". This seems to be evaluated incorrectly. When pulling to expression out of the dictionary, works as expected.
(in the attached outputs never mind the KDK missing message - it is really not yet there).
python3.9 and 3.10 show the same problem. I could be on the wrong track of course.
Didn't investigate further (I think I was on the wrong track) - khronokernel made many improvements to AMFI and KDK handling meanwhile.
Now using the latest OCLP 050n (last commit: Verify path before iterating over, 22hrs ago).

Tried post-install patching of 13.0b9 on MBP5,2: AMFI is indeed disabled, KDK automatically downloaded/installed, with fallback to last available version which belong to b8. This patching test was successful, i.e NVIDIA Tesla stuff patched as foreseen. System still boots. No graphics accel of course as there is no patched OpenGL, but a little snappier, esp. mouse movement is perfect. Framebuffer probably at work (?). Visible effect is that it now shows the intended background picture. Nightshift works. Sleep/wakeup works.
The MBP5,2 is meant for testing. External keyboard+mouse needed.

OCLP ventura alpha is already in excellent shape, even for this 13 yr old Penryn machine. Thank you OCLP team!

Now looking forward to the 13.0 release and the OCLP release for Ventura. Will use it for an MBP11,1 mainly, for this MBP5,2, and for the production MBP16,1 (native).
 

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idenis42

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Quite the contrary.
Do not judge, so that you will not be judged, for with what judgment you judge, so you will be judged; and with what measure you measure, so they will measure you.
I like to understand everything and develop and help, prompt. And you - my advice - ask me first, and then condemn me. Ok?
 
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Ausdauersportler

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Do not judge, so that you will not be judged, for with what judgment you judge, so you will be judged; and with what measure you measure, so they will measure you.
I like to understand everything and develop and help, prompt. And you - my advice - ask me first, and then condemn me. Ok?
I really love people giving advices and do not (of course) act according to these on their own.

If you really want to understand everything why you cannot start your posts with a simple question?
Or just post the status you have achieved by using a software not meant to hit the public of inexperienced users.

No, the posts usually start with some (false) alternative facts and end with a lot of exclamation marks in a row and with demands like: This has to be fixed!

Jesus, you should hear yourself talking and see yourself writing here!
 

idenis42

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I really love people giving advices and do not (of course) act according to these on their own.

If you really want to understand everything why you cannot start your posts with a simple question?
Or just post the status you have achieved by using a software not meant to hit the public of inexperienced users.

No, the posts usually start with some (false) alternative facts and end with a lot of exclamation marks in a row and with demands like: This has to be fixed!

Jesus, you should hear yourself talking and see yourself writing here!
I am not a OCLP developer!!!
I am a tester! I also work as a system administrator! Another programmer!
I liked the OCLP program. I decided to understand how this OCLP works! I understand some of the sources. But I have no right to change anything in the source. But in the system, I can change anything, even the kernel!
I see some minor errors in the OCLP and give a little hint - where is good and where is the error and what is superfluous ...
So, first of all, I ask you questions in order to better understand what and how. And I share with you! And then I'll go further... ;)
 
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perez987

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@hvds
I don't know it I understand well the last changes. Specifically "KDK automatically downloaded/installed, with fallback to last available version". Does it mean that, if you are installing beta 9 and the related KDK isn't available yet, OpenCore-Patcher downloads/installs the previous KDL available, beta 8, and uses it for the root patch? Because I was thinking that the KDK must be the same version as macOS 13. Thanks.
 
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