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Have been using OpenCore Patches since Big Sur without any major issues. But this release have some nasty bugs, which bothers me more and more:
- After a restart everything is working fine
- about 30 minutes later, some apps crashing. some apps crashing instantly when I use the keyboard within the app, while others remain stable
- sometimes I get display distraction after wake up from sleep

What's the problem?
knulch
 
Since i discovered OCLP i build and install it on main disk (not root patching).
This prevents any root patched unsupported OS, OCLP can be updated by every OS cause in any case it doesn't matter where it is built the important is that is installed always on the main disk.
I honestly don't know if developper team approves this way, but i only say that i never had any issue, crash, lags.
In any case i am not responsable, it is on anyone own risk.
 
knulch said:
Have been using OpenCore Patches since Big Sur without any major issues. But this release have some nasty bugs, which bothers me more and more:
- After a restart everything is working fine
- about 30 minutes later, some apps crashing. some apps crashing instantly when I use the keyboard within the app, while others remain stable
- sometimes I get display distraction after wake up from sleep

What's the problem?
knulch
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You might want to mention what Mac you're running. Many of us, including me, have unsupported Macs that are up and running fine with none of the symptoms you describe. You could also mention what version of OCLP you're running, and any other pertinent details.
 
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Is there a general OCLP discussion thread? I have a question, but all of the OCLP threads I find here seem dedicated to a specific sub-topic. For example my question has nothing to do with Venture on OCLP, and I would rather not OT this thread (other than with this question 🤔🤔 )
 
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rehkram said:
You might want to mention what Mac you're running. Many of us, including me, have unsupported Macs that are up and running fine with none of the symptoms you describe. You could also mention what version of OCLP you're running, and any other pertinent details.
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iMac 2012 27“
13.0.1
Clean installation with 0.5.1, updated patches with 0.5.2
 
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panjandrum said:
Is there a general OCLP discussion thread? I have a question, but all of the OCLP threads I find here seem dedicated to a specific sub-topic. For example my question has nothing to do with Venture on OCLP, and I would rather not OT this thread (other than with this question 🤔🤔 )
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Do Thunderbolt ports work on Macbook Pro Late 2013? They are listed but I can't get a signal on the monitor
 
knulch said:
iMac 2012 27“
13.0.1
Clean installation with 0.5.1, updated patches with 0.5.2
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Tockman said:
Have you got latest EFI firmware version?
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Tockman is dead right to ask that question, it would pay to check this. The best way is to install SilentKnight 2.3, it's pretty much indispensable for keeping your unsupported Mac fully up to date IMO. You can get it from author Howard Oakley's site here.

You might already know this so forgive me if you do, maybe someone else will get something useful out of it. Assuming your iMac late 2012 model is an iMac13,2, the last supported macOS version was Catalina. Catalina's last firmware update was shipped this year within Catalina 10.15.7 security update. Firmware version is 429.0.0.0.0 for my rMBP10,1, I don't know whether it can vary between Mac models. SilentKnight will do all that checking for you.

If your firmware is not up to date the workflow is this.

Install the last supported macOS, Catalina in this case, on an external drive (preferred), or on a separate partition / volume on the internal drive (more chance of instability but can work).

Added step: There has been some discussion on the need to perform a PRAM/NVRAM reset before installing or updating the last supported macOS on the external drive / partition, so a reset is recommended. If you decide not to reset it, and your firmware does not update during the macOS install / update, try again, but do a PRAM/NVRAM reset before installing / reinstalling macOS

You then boot it, log in and go to system preferences > software update. Presumably if you already installed 10.15.7 it won't find any updates. If not, accept any updates it offers and update your Catalina drive / volume. It will download and install the Catalina 10.15.7 security update which contained the firmware update. On the last auto reboot, login and check whether the firmware updated.

Reboot into Ventura and check firmware version with SilentKnight, it should find your firmware is up to date.

Keep the Catalina external drive / partition handy just in case another Catalina security update hits before Apple discontinues support for Catalina. I believe that will be very soon, does anyone know?

Even if it does not fix all specific problems, at least you've eliminated the possibility that they were caused by old firmware.

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Edited, next day: After later discussion I've added a step to the workflow on performing a PRAM/NVRAM reset before booting into macOS to start the install / update process.
 
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shafez said:
Works well with my Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter.
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OK. Use a Thunderbolt 2 cable and a Thunderbolt 3 to 2 adapter. Unfortunately, I can't get a picture. The picture comes through HDMI. Will test the whole thing with Big Sur to see if it works there.
 
fernando.c.neves said:
Try to build from source OCLP 0.5.3, creating a new EFI and re-patch with OCLP 0.5.3, my Ventura 13.1 Beta 4 is better and more smooth (faster).

For those who doesn't know how to build from source => OpenCore-Patcher 0.5.3 build from source.app.zip
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MacBook Air 2012, tried 0.5.3 and unfortunately doesn't feel any faster, but stability decreased. A lot of apps crashing and that bug of the CTRL - V crashing all apps returned. Will revert and go back to release version. It was worth a shot :)
 
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knulch said:
iMac 2012 27“
13.0.1
Clean installation with 0.5.1, updated patches with 0.5.2
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As you'll see from the attached image, I'm running the same iMac model. I have been using OCLP since I upgraded from Catalina to Big Sur 11.3. I have had zero problems from 11.3 through to the current release of Ventura. I've never had to do a clean install - all have been upgrades.

There have been many helpful replies. I hope you get a working solution soon.
 

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rehkram said:
Reboot into Ventura and check firmware version with SilentKnight, it should find your firmware is up to date.
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I followed all the steps you described, with my iMac 13,2, from Catalina 10.15.7 on an external SSD, and the security update. But my firmware is still on 292.0.0.0.0 (instead of 429.0.0.0.0). I don't understand why the EFI didn't update...
 
vendini said:
I followed all the steps you described, with my iMac 13,2, from Catalina 10.15.7 on an external SSD, and the security update. But my firmware is still on 292.0.0.0.0 (instead of 429.0.0.0.0). I don't understand why the EFI didn't update...
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Did you boot into Catalina bypassing OCLP EFI and clearing PRAM?
 
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vendini said:
I followed all the steps you described, with my iMac 13,2, from Catalina 10.15.7 on an external SSD, and the security update. But my firmware is still on 292.0.0.0.0 (instead of 429.0.0.0.0). I don't understand why the EFI didn't update...
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You missed a step, maybe?

You need to reset NVRAM (basically un-installing OCLP), before you option-boot to install/update Catalina partition.

Otherwise, firmware will not get updates.
 
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