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Every thing I need It for woks fine for me.. I haven't checked every nook and cranny but its great for me!
I'm using a mac flashed Sapphire RX580
New to the forums cause my org is having issues with MacOS Sonoma with kernel panics due to a watchdogd error. Would anyone know what is causing this issue? Is it energy saver related?
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8004531941): userspace watchdog timeout: no successful checkins from remoted in 180 seconds
remoted returned not alive with context : is_alive_func returned unhealthy : device not connected (code: 0x2
service: logd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4267, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: WindowServer, total successful checkins in 43002 seconds: 4263, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: remoted, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4234, last successful checkin: 180 seconds ago
service: opendirectoryd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4266, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: configd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4255, last successful checkin: 110 seconds ago
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8004531941): userspace watchdog timeout: no successful checkins from remoted in 180 seconds
remoted returned not alive with context : is_alive_func returned unhealthy : device not connected (code: 0x2
service: logd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4267, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: WindowServer, total successful checkins in 43002 seconds: 4263, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: remoted, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4234, last successful checkin: 180 seconds ago
service: opendirectoryd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4266, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago
service: configd, total successful checkins in 43037 seconds: 4255, last successful checkin: 110 seconds ago
figured I would give the update to 14.3.1 a try on my late 2015 iMac running OCLP 1.3.0. I have been using 14.0 happily, although a little stutter and the only issue I had was the random screen turning on bug when it was idle but I would just click the mouse and the screen would darken again.
well updated to 14.3.1 after making sure all my patches were pre-installed. now, I get the same flashing log in screen issue I was seeing on 14.x which prompted me to return to 14.0. the log in screen prohibits the mouse and keyboard from being used to log in and the screen goes black, then lights back up every 2-3 seconds. figured this wouldve been fixed by now.
I'm currently using safe boot to access the computer which allows the log in screen to work fine. anyone have a solid fix for this issue? read some threads advising to remove a Memoji log in icon, I don't have that. just my iCloud photo as the log in icon.
EDIT: I was able to change my profile pic to monogram and it works now. is there a more permanent solution for this since it was working fine on 14.0 with the previous profile pics?
well updated to 14.3.1 after making sure all my patches were pre-installed. now, I get the same flashing log in screen issue I was seeing on 14.x which prompted me to return to 14.0. the log in screen prohibits the mouse and keyboard from being used to log in and the screen goes black, then lights back up every 2-3 seconds. figured this wouldve been fixed by now.
I'm currently using safe boot to access the computer which allows the log in screen to work fine. anyone have a solid fix for this issue? read some threads advising to remove a Memoji log in icon, I don't have that. just my iCloud photo as the log in icon.
EDIT: I was able to change my profile pic to monogram and it works now. is there a more permanent solution for this since it was working fine on 14.0 with the previous profile pics?
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Basically has been a week since I did the upgrade from monterey to sonoma on my unsupported mid 2010 MacBook Pro. So far I am as impressed with how well it runs sonoma, actually seems to run sonoma better than it did Monterey, seems faster, and mail is rock stable, would randomly crash in monterey and safari works perfect on all websites on sonoma where in monterey had to use an alternative browser for some sites. So far I am very happy with it and will be even happier with it when I order and install the battery for this MacBook Pro as then it will be almost perfect. will be perfect if I can get the damned stickers off the lid.
Hey, @amaze1499 I just wanted to do a quick follow up with you since you were nice enough to offer some reasonable feedback to question i asked about the ghosted device. It's gone, and I didn't ever call Apple. It just disappeared on it's own, and I saw that it was gone today. So thanks again. Everything appears back to normal.
Wasn't that the bug that when you wake up, some legacy metal GPUs will not wake up correctly so they disabled actual sleep and instead it is just in screen off active state?
MBP11,1: installed 14.4b5 on external SSD using USB installer. OCLP 1.4.0n from 20 February for EFI and post-install patches.
Running normally. Looking forward to the 14.4 release.
This time I removed all files from /L*/E* to see what happens.
The two HighPoint*.kext were brought back by the installer.
The two AppleIntel*.kext were brought back by post-install.
The SoftRAID.kext sits in /S*/L*/E* just as Sven G had written.
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Good afternoon all,
I have a MacAir 13” (mid-2012) 5,2. Currently using MACOS 14.3.1 and OCLP 1.3.0 and have the USB installer used for the 14.3.1 installation. All works great for my old man uses!
Recently, I replaced the battery and after discovering how easy that was, thought about replacing my HD. It is currently 121GB and I can go up to 512GB SSD for less than $100.
It’s after that I’m not sure of. I don’t have any idea what I will be looking at when I turn the laptop back on. I assume I will hold the option key when starting and I believe should have the 14.3.1 USB installer plugged in prior to start. Additionally, I believe I have to reformat the new drive, which means getting into Disk Utility. But not sure of really anything???
Does anyone have a checklist to follow once the new drive is installed, and how to get Sonoma on the new drive for this unsupported Mac? I searched this forum and others, but no real luck.
BTW, I back everything up daily with Time Machine.
My sincere thanks for any help. Jim
I have a MacAir 13” (mid-2012) 5,2. Currently using MACOS 14.3.1 and OCLP 1.3.0 and have the USB installer used for the 14.3.1 installation. All works great for my old man uses!
Recently, I replaced the battery and after discovering how easy that was, thought about replacing my HD. It is currently 121GB and I can go up to 512GB SSD for less than $100.
It’s after that I’m not sure of. I don’t have any idea what I will be looking at when I turn the laptop back on. I assume I will hold the option key when starting and I believe should have the 14.3.1 USB installer plugged in prior to start. Additionally, I believe I have to reformat the new drive, which means getting into Disk Utility. But not sure of really anything???
Does anyone have a checklist to follow once the new drive is installed, and how to get Sonoma on the new drive for this unsupported Mac? I searched this forum and others, but no real luck.
BTW, I back everything up daily with Time Machine.
My sincere thanks for any help. Jim
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Thanks. I have tested a few of the mentioned solutions on power management without solid results. Will have a look at it again later down the road at some point release or so. Can live with it for now.
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Same here. I have been booted into Sonoma 14.3.1 patched under OCLP 1.4.0nightly but with 1.3.0 EFI setup, and it's worked just fine. I still trust Monterey more, and I do not sleep it overnight. We'll see.
There is a charge limiter that I have used on my 2015 MBP 15-inch (11,4) for a long time. It is not fancy and has only one setting. But it is rock-steady, and will maintain whatever percentage you choose for your Intel, even if you turn off the machine and leave the charging on. It works only on Intel-based machines (a pity), and once set, stays set. https://github.com/godly-devotion/charge-limiter/releases
Looks like an AboutThisHack screenshot ;-) you can simply click on your mac's serial to make the whole number invisible so no image manipulation needed nice feature btw ;-) fyi take care
For sonoma they dropped all 2017 except for the imac pro, which i suspect will fall off this september. Im hoping they keep the 2019's alive and only drop 2018's. But then again they might just cut it to 2020 machines only...
iMac 13,2 - late 2012
Installed 14.4 beta5 OTA over 14.4 beta4 using OCLP 1.4.0n (2.20.24 version). No issues during installation.
While this assessment is "subjective", the 14.4 beta5 is the fastest reiteration of the Sonoma OS, bar none, on my 13,2 iMac (still equipped with original Apple's Fusion HD). Wi-Fi speed improved. Safari loads pages faster. Applications launch faster.
I did not notice problems with You Tube (mentioned by others), but perhaps videos I access are not resource intensive. Neither Amazon Prime Video, nor other streaming services, cause apparent issues or increase fan speeds.
The VTDecoderXPCService occasionally does trigger unwarranted CPU usage and fan speed increase; this happens when dynamic wallpaper (Sonoma scenic view) engages, but it happens rarely.
MacBook Pro 5,2 (test machine)
Sonoma 14.3.1 installed via either OCLP 1.3.0 or 1.4.0n runs within expected parameters given that MacBook Pro 5,2 has no metal capability. However, installing 14.4 betas is dependent on (game of) chance whether USB ports remain active during reboots. I was able to install 14.4 betas, but invariably a kernel panic or USB port connection failure would cause OS to become unresponsive to keyboard or mouse inputs. Work in progress.
Hope above data may be of help.
Installed 14.4 beta5 OTA over 14.4 beta4 using OCLP 1.4.0n (2.20.24 version). No issues during installation.
While this assessment is "subjective", the 14.4 beta5 is the fastest reiteration of the Sonoma OS, bar none, on my 13,2 iMac (still equipped with original Apple's Fusion HD). Wi-Fi speed improved. Safari loads pages faster. Applications launch faster.
I did not notice problems with You Tube (mentioned by others), but perhaps videos I access are not resource intensive. Neither Amazon Prime Video, nor other streaming services, cause apparent issues or increase fan speeds.
The VTDecoderXPCService occasionally does trigger unwarranted CPU usage and fan speed increase; this happens when dynamic wallpaper (Sonoma scenic view) engages, but it happens rarely.
MacBook Pro 5,2 (test machine)
Sonoma 14.3.1 installed via either OCLP 1.3.0 or 1.4.0n runs within expected parameters given that MacBook Pro 5,2 has no metal capability. However, installing 14.4 betas is dependent on (game of) chance whether USB ports remain active during reboots. I was able to install 14.4 betas, but invariably a kernel panic or USB port connection failure would cause OS to become unresponsive to keyboard or mouse inputs. Work in progress.
Hope above data may be of help.
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One would assume you'd be wanting to clone your HDD to your new SSD. balena Etcher is supposed to be very good for this. It would take care of all steps needed to clone, from formatting to copying. After that, you should try to start from the cloned drive (on a USB port?) and, when it is working as it should, remove the old HDD and substitute the SSD. I have done as much (though I used CCC 6) on my MBP11,4 (2015). I do not use Time Machine, so I have no idea if that would affect the cloning. Others here may know.
From my own experience, I can confirm the suggestions above.
Using a time machine back up always came in handy when installing a new system from scratch and having booted from a USB installer.
Migration assistant also worked very well in numerous situations.
There are plenty of articles on the web re replacing a mac's primary hard drive with a new one (where possible) and reinstalling macOS so I won't discuss that part. My thesis though is this: The hardest part is restoring your files without restoring obsolete crud and/or system files that can break the nice clean installation.
The best option is, in my opinion, iCloud. I had to upgrade my subscription size one notch to make it work. It does need a fast internet connection, we're on fiber.
I put all my files in folders & subfolders on the local Desktop (which is a great idea anyway). The biggest subfolder is Desktop/Projects/, a suitably broad name since everything in my life could be described as "a project", including life itself!
Once happy with how it was structured I used System Settings > Apple ID > iCloud > iCloud Drive to tell the Mac to sync the Desktop (and also the default /users/me/Documents folder, etc) to iCloud, along with various other folders and apps.
This allows clean installs of macOS at any time using an installer USB key. After logging back in to iCloud (don't forget the password) all the files magically reappear, without trashing the clean install by restoring crap. I'm amazed at how well it works, so far.
I tested it thoroughly over a few months and have done several clean installs in that time. After a new clean install it takes some time for everything to sync up after re-logging in to iCloud; you can see all the folders and files but they have the little cloud icon against them meaning not yet synced back to the new drive. Just using the file or folder forces macOS to reprioritize it for immediate syncing.
I continue to run Time Machine backups to a NAS for versioning & local backup. As a last resort (have not needed it but I did test it) I can use the web interface to iCloud's file manager to grab stuff.
Shot of my /Desktop below.
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Installed 14.4b5 on iMac 18,1. Booted fine, then installed post-install root patches and WiFi is missing from the top menu as well as settings. Very odd - even in settings, when clicking on WiFi, options don't ever show.
I reverted back to previous root patches and I see the WiFi options again, but with an exclamation sign through the WiFi symbol in the top menu bar. This is to be expected, but I guess the post install root-patches have a problem with WiFi on this iMac 18,1 with 14.4b5.
So, I guess this means WiFi doesn't work with OCLP 1.3.0 in 14.4b for an iMac 18,1.
Just thought you'd like to know.
I reverted back to previous root patches and I see the WiFi options again, but with an exclamation sign through the WiFi symbol in the top menu bar. This is to be expected, but I guess the post install root-patches have a problem with WiFi on this iMac 18,1 with 14.4b5.
So, I guess this means WiFi doesn't work with OCLP 1.3.0 in 14.4b for an iMac 18,1.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Hey all, I wanted to pick some brains here to see who has experience. My main issue with OCLP and Sonoma / Ventura on this iMac 17, 1 is the 3D acceleration in VMs other than macOS. Since this iMac runs Monterey as it's last supported OS, after doing the root patching from OCLP, is there a way I could bypass their patching and apply the specific patches for this iMac that are required since I could pull them from Monterey since it has all the necessary drivers? Does anyone know what specifically I would have to bring from Monterey to Sonoma to add this functionality back?
Thanks.
EDIT: I am aware that the Open Core devs have limited access to every single mac and may be part of the reason why some of these issues still exist. So it makes sense that I try to address the issue on the specific machine I want to use and with a late enough supported version of the OS that probably can have the necessary parts copied to Sonoma. I again just wanted to see if anyone knew what components those would be.
Thanks.
EDIT: I am aware that the Open Core devs have limited access to every single mac and may be part of the reason why some of these issues still exist. So it makes sense that I try to address the issue on the specific machine I want to use and with a late enough supported version of the OS that probably can have the necessary parts copied to Sonoma. I again just wanted to see if anyone knew what components those would be.
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how's everyones 2014 Mac mini running on 14.3.1 with OCLP 1.3.0. Nervous if I should upgrade my Mac mini file server from 14.0. Im running a 2 TB NVMe SSD in it with 16GB RAM.
EDIT: did a blind OTA update while share screened into the headless late 2014. everything seemed to work ok and it definitely seems faster with less lag even over shared screen than 14.0 was.
EDIT: did a blind OTA update while share screened into the headless late 2014. everything seemed to work ok and it definitely seems faster with less lag even over shared screen than 14.0 was.
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I´m running several virtual machines in my OCLP Mac Pro 5,1, all of them with full graphics acceleration.
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Thanks, I wasn't sure what they were using since they have to think about many different mac models and configurations while I'm just focused on one. I had considered switching to Parallels desktop, but it's not cross platform like VMware products are (as far as I know), and when I tried Parallels years back, it didn't play nice with the zoom accessibility feature. I'm sure that's different now, but as in most any other case when I've adopted a product / platform I've gotten used to it. That's why in some respects it's been a tough choice to just switch away from Apple for a desktop now even though there are far more options that would work for me today than years ago. That's the same reason I would like to keep an Intel / X86 / x86_64 machine around over switching to ARM because of third party compatibility and backwards compatibility. So, that's why I was looking to see if anyone here would have suggestions on how to fix what issues I might encounter independent of the community as I have specifics people might not have experience with, or have an answer for.
When I did Sonoma on here for the couple of weeks that I did, for Apple stuff it was fine, e.g. stuff that would carry over to a new Apple Silicon based machine without issues. It's the third party stuff that's a bit hit and miss still.
Here are the items I would be looking at for third party compatibility that I know an intel based Mac, or other machine would do:
Windows / Linux, or any other nix based OS
running legacy 32-bit software such as games, or other software I may happen to need that doesn't have a 64-bit option.
Beyond these considerations, I could do Apple Silicon and just get a new machine.