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I'm not sure if this explains the varying Sonoma install experiences, but with my MBP6,2, I have noticed that I need these VMM kernel patches to perform clean installations of macOS:
Screenshot 2023-08-03 at 11.03.02 AM.png

I keep two OC config.plists (one with kernel patches and one without). I use the config.plist with VMM kernel patches when installing macOS and I use the config.plist without VMM kernel patches during normal operation. I leave AMFIPass.kext enabled (with -amfipassbeta boot-arg for Sonoma) and without boot-arg amfi=0x80. I don't need to change anything in my config.plist except to add or remove these VMM kernel patches. I haven't experimented further to determine whether I need only a subset of these three kernel patches.
 
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tried installing Sonoma on an external hard drive but then after the installation was complete the start up drive couldn’t be found so there was no way to get into Sonoma luckily I had Ventura already backed up on the internal drive.. I give up.
 
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norm2816 said:
tried installing Sonoma on an external hard drive but then after the installation was complete the start up drive couldn’t be found so there was no way to get into Sonoma luckily I had Ventura already backed up on the internal drive.. I give up.
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You can install it in an external hard drive, as long as it´s conected via thunderbolt or an esata port. From USB is not gonna boot.
 
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trifero said:
You can install it in an external hard drive, as long as it´s conected via thunderbolt or an esata port. From USB is not gonna boot.
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I have four thunderbolt ports and one external drive that I have connected to a dongle that has 2 USB 3.1 ports so I’ll need an external drive with a USB C connection for it to be able to boot from the hard drive ?
 
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I have four thunderbolt ports and one external drive that I have connected to a dongle that has 2 USB 3.1 ports so I’ll need an external drive with a USB C connection for it to be able to boot from the hard drive ?
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No, sir. You need a thunderbolt drive. Though the port is the same, as is capable of thunderbolt and Usb-C at the same time, you need a thundedrbolt drive.
This is mine


www.walmart.com

HP SSD P800 512GB Portable Thunderbolt 3 PCIe NVMe 3SS20AA#ABC - Walmart.com

Buy HP SSD P800 512GB Portable Thunderbolt 3 PCIe NVMe 3SS20AA#ABC at Walmart.com
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Of course i remind you it´s ONLY thunderbolt. Won´t work connected tu an USB port.


Or adaptor from thunderbolt to esata. Just like this.



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IOGEAR Adaptador Thunderbolt 3 a eSATA y USB - Almacenamiento externo eSATA de 6 Gbps - Puerto USB-A 3.1 Segundo - Velocidad de datos de hasta 40 Gbps - Plug-n-Play - Compatible con eSATA III, II y I

IOGEAR El adaptador Thunderbolt 3 a eSATA y USB conecta rápidamente su MacBook Pro a un dispositivo de almacenamiento externo. Realice una copia de seguridad y acceda a sus archivos en poco tiempo con las velocidades de transferencia de datos de ultra alta velocidad del adaptador que alcanzan vel...
www.amazon.com
 
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My macbookpro14,1 is dead, nightly 0.6.9 with latest sonoma beta. Was turned off and i forgot the ethernet bug and plugged in a docking station. Unable to do anything with it, smc reset, pram reset, nothing. So while it freezes and has kernel panic, if it is turned off, result is worse.
 
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norm2816 said:
thanks I must’ve have overlooked those noted issues there’s really no point in upgrading just yet I’ll wait until it’s fully supported like Ventura.
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Hi norm2816, Check the model of the NVMe drive in your MBP in System Info/NVMExpress and compare to this list from OCLP's Github page:

Restore S1X/S3X NVMe support removed in 14.0 Beta 2
# - APPLE SSD AP0128H, AP0256H, etc
# - APPLE SSD AP0128J, AP0256J, etc

If you have one of the drives mentioned you won't need a Thunderbolt external drive to install Sonoma on a MacBook Pro 2016, just either of these two OCLP-Sonoma Branch builds, which will install the kext to enable access to your internal drive.

Streamline S1X/S3X Logic build 5ecd453 or
Disable T1 Patches Temporarily build c9a14e2

I use a cheap USB Sabrent SSD HDD hard drive enclosure from Amazon with a USB3-A to USB-C adaptor

Check out my screenshot from post #602 from my MBP 2016 Touchscreen with 4 Thunderbolt ports.

I've had no issues with Sonoma using build c9a14e2 at all (build 5ecd453 prevents Apple account login only) and it runs just as well as Ventura for me.

Good Luck!
 
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K two said:
Currently, there is little or no difference between the performance and stability of fully supported macOS versions and the current state of OCLP hacked macOS. To test, Apple's T&Cs had to be violated, profusely.:eek::rolleyes:;)
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There are little differences for light/basic usage, but some specific areas are more problematic : graphic acceleration, debugging, drm management …
 
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K two said:
It is still very early in OCLP development for Sonoma, have patience. :rolleyes:
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I was not focused on Sonoma which is in very early development stage, it’s more related to Ventura experience.
Graphic/video acceleration remains problematic one year after on some hardware (including « recent » ones)
If you just use safari, mail, office tools or some basic software, it’s fine.
If you want to use some tools like Xcode or some video editing tools, it can be unusable if you are not lucky.
And unfortunately, it’s not OCLP developers fault, it’s because of all the obstacles that Apple put year after year, release after release.
 
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I'm going to apologize in advance for posting something specific to hackintoshes, but I need some testing help. I have discovered a simplified ACPI patch that facilitates OCLP post-install patching of BCM 94352HMB for Sonoma Wi-Fi. This simplified ACPI patch (patching only the Wi-Fi IOName) can be applied permanently, so that it does not affect normal Wi-Fi operation and it allows OCLP 0.6.9 to detect and patch modern_wifi.

I'm looking for someone experienced with Open Core ACPI patching to help me test this patch. More details are here.

My suggested test steps are here.
 
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Calibre5 said:
Hi norm2816, Check the model of the NVMe drive in your MBP in System Info/NVMExpress and compare to this list from OCLP's Github page:

Restore S1X/S3X NVMe support removed in 14.0 Beta 2
# - APPLE SSD AP0128H, AP0256H, etc
# - APPLE SSD AP0128J, AP0256J, etc

If you have one of the drives mentioned you won't need a Thunderbolt external drive to install Sonoma on a MacBook Pro 2016, just either of these two OCLP-Sonoma Branch builds, which will install the kext to enable access to your internal drive.

Streamline S1X/S3X Logic build 5ecd453 or
Disable T1 Patches Temporarily build c9a14e2

I use a cheap USB Sabrent SSD HDD hard drive enclosure from Amazon with a USB3-A to USB-C adaptor

Check out my screenshot from post #602 from my MBP 2016 Touchscreen with 4 Thunderbolt ports.

I've had no issues with Sonoma using build c9a14e2 at all (build 5ecd453 prevents Apple account login only) and it runs just as well as Ventura for me.

Good Luck!
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Thank you! I’ll check this out later tonight. I’ll let you know.
 
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rbart said:
I was not focused on Sonoma which is in very early development stage, it’s more related to Ventura experience.
Graphic/video acceleration remains problematic one year after on some hardware (including « recent » ones)
If you just use safari, mail, office tools or some basic software, it’s fine.
If you want to use some tools like Xcode or some video editing tools, it can be unusable if you are not lucky.
And unfortunately, it’s not OCLP developers fault, it’s because of all the obstacles that Apple put year after year, release after release.
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The differences are inferred in #627. You are correct, OCLP Ventura seems unfinished. ;):apple:
 
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Ghost in the Mini? Attempting to D/L the current Beta 4 (23A5301h) from three sources - GIB MacOS-Master, Mr. Macintosh and OCLP069n>Sonoma, all consistantly yield (23A5301g), the earlier version. 🙃
 
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