macOS 15 Sequoia on Unsupported Macs Thread

[avz]

Someone said, AI could be turned off like you can turn off Siri in the new OS’.

I have a bad feeling that "you can always say no" is somehow a part of the "grooming" or "slowboiling" process.

 

[Heindijs]

Im not touching built in AI. This is just wrong.

Well, you're in luck since this'll only work on Apple Silicon Macs. And if you're not from the US, like me, you probably can't use it anytime soon anyways. That is if it even passed EU privacy laws.

 

[jshayya0184]

Im not touching built in AI. This is just wrong.

Lucky it's not available on my Intel Macs. Probably gonna hold off on my M-series machines until I know it can be turned off for sure.

 

[daabido]

I'm happy to see they dropped the 2018 and 2019 MacBook Air officially. Those era of MacBook Air were slow out of the box and to support retina display.

Those of us who continue to use them thank you for your happiness.

 

[Sven G]

While macOS Sequoia isn’t yet supported for root patching in OCLP 1.5.0 and 1.6.0n, I have found that it works flawlessly in Parallels Desktop 19.4.0 on Sonoma: but still sadly without graphical acceleration, as paravirtualization doesn’t yet work in a root patched Sonoma host.

 

[killawat]

It's nice to see that there is still Intel support in OS 15. I know it is only a matter of time but for now I will be able to enjoy using my 2015 MBPs for a bit longer

same, waiting on M5 Macs lol (or M1 Macs for an extreme discount)

 

[B S Magnet]

I have a bad feeling that "you can always say no" is somehow a part of the "grooming" or "slowboiling" process.

In the spirit of your sig line, “opt-out is flogging.”

 

[minik]

Those of us who continue to use them thank you for your happiness.

Oh I’m sure majority of them will be keep using, many may still on Catalina or other older macOS. They also need new battery as well.

 

[rehkram]

Re. Sequoia beta, in case anyone is wondering how big (size-wise) of a delta update it is, I updated an intel Mac mini 2018 (supported) with it OTA on top of Sonoma 14.5

It was a 4.84 GB download, so it's not a total rewrite. Seems to work OK but I haven't dived into it much yet; I won't try installing it on an unsupported Mac for a while.

 

[ronton3]

Imac27/13.2 14.5/1.6.0n.

Even though the Sequoia update did not work it was fairly easy to get back to normal. I did learn that the Sequoia Dev Beta does show up and ask if I want to upgrade(I won"t try again for awhile), if you click on the (learn more) option it goes to a page in the browser about "Apple Intelligence" and all the new updates are there, and the full Sequoia beta 14.7BG can be downloaded. When I tried to open it I got the message that I did not have an app for this.

 

[furidashev]

macOS Sequoia 15.0 Beta 1 on MacBook Pro 13" 2015 A1502 with OCLP 1.5.0 (without patches)

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

Well, you're in luck since this'll only work on Apple Silicon Macs. And if you're not from the US, like me, you probably can't use it anytime soon anyways. That is if it even passed EU privacy laws.

Well you never know the team at Open Core might be able to get it working on Intel Macs.

 

[Payne Mononymous Bachman]

macOS Sequoia 15.0 Beta 1 on MacBook Pro 13" 2015 A1502 with OCLP 1.5.0 (without patches)

Very cool.

 

[hvds]

macOS Sequoia 15.0 Beta 1 on MacBook Pro 13" 2015 A1502 with OCLP 1.5.0 (without patches)

Likewise here on MBP11,1 (late 2013), installation OTA over 14.5 (without patching) on external SSD proceeded smoothly. Using OCLP 160n latest (10 June).
Very good already, thanks to OCLP!



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Don't try the following, resulting system won't boot including in safe mode, more changes to patches needed.
But was a nice try.
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Some obstacles met while trying to patch, requiring working from source and some changes.
To work from source install required items first: pip3.11 install -r <your-downloaded-oclp-source>/requirements.txt

Remake the privileged helper tool as described in OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/ci_tooling/privileged_helper_tool/README.md
to overcome the missing code signature.

Allow Sequoia in opencore_legacy_patcher/sys_patch/sys_patch_helpers.py (around line 266) and sys_patch_detect.py (in _check_os_compat).

Build by running Build-Project.command in Terminal

Duplicate some Sonoma (=23) items for Sequoia (=24) in Terminal (too naive probably):
cd /var/folders/6t/_0jy_6vn2lz0pwwgfsz_jy300000gs/T/tmp3flhbfky/payloads/Universal-Binaries
cp -R 12.5-3802-23 12.5-3802-24
cp -R 13.2.1-23 13.2.1-24
These two are just for the MBP11.1, see in OCLP app's error messages what is missing...

-> IO80211.framework seems missing from /S/L/PrivateFrameworks. KP in booting.

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To reinstall, tried USB installer generated from the link in post #11. Booted installer with OCLP 160n. Installer starts OK but says can't install to this machine.

 

[TOM1211]

installed on MacBook Pro 2014 no issues using OCLP 1.5 obviously just no root patching , installed usb Wi-Fi adapter which works fine for internet.

 

[OKonnel]

While macOS Sequoia isn’t yet supported for root patching in OCLP 1.5.0 and 1.6.0n, I have found that it works flawlessly in Parallels Desktop 19.4.0 on Sonoma: but still sadly without graphical acceleration, as paravirtualization doesn’t yet work in a root patched Sonoma host.

Ho @Sven G! Having reached this point, you have made 30 and could make 31.... So why don't you try doing a normal installation, in a separate volume, also installing the Post Install Patch and then let us know if it works and how it goes? We just learned that the latest 1.6.0 Nightly version of OCLP has been made compatible with Sequoia...

 

[OKonnel]

But beyond any assessment of whether Sequoia can work well in OCLP even with the Post Install Patch, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW kindly, from those who have already installed it, whether the Desktop and Finder look very different to you from Sonoma's or whether, all in all, nothing changes or it changes so little that you don't even notice if you happen to put the same background back on both
Thank you

 

[Sven G]

^^^ Yes, I did that, too: installed Sequoia on an external Thunderbolt 2 SSD, which went well, without problems. Sadly, it isn’t yet possible to apply root patches (OCLP says that it is an unsupported OS), so we’ll have to wait until Sequoia root patching is made possible by the OCLP developers. This should probably not be too problematic, as there don’t seem to be any major showstoppers in Sequoia (at least, until now)…

 

[Sven G]

… As for the “new” Sequoia desktop, IMHO there aren’t any major differences with Sonoma: but also here we’ll have to wait for the root patches, as the new Sequoia wallpapers don’t seem to work without accelerated graphics (there’s only a yellow background for the default one, without root patches).

 

[macpro_mid2014]

installed on MacBook Pro 2014 no issues using OCLP 1.5 obviously just no root patching , installed usb Wi-Fi adapter which works fine for internet.

I have the same here. Was it an OTA update? I created a USB and tried to install Sequoia on a blank volume, but it did not work.
It freezes here. Just curious and happy to know that someone else did it on day one/two!

 

[mib01]

… As for the “new” Sequoia desktop, IMHO there aren’t any major differences with Sonoma: but also here we’ll have to wait for the root patches, as the new Sequoia wallpapers don’t seem to work without accelerated graphics (there’s only a yellow background for the default one, without root patches).

How good it will run on Intel processors. However, I'm not in a hurry, I prefer to use the penultimate version of the OS, the Ventura runs well on the Macbook pro mid 2012, unlike the Sonoma which constantly uses the fan.

 

[hrutkaymods]

I threw my hat into the ring last night and tried to patch. It still doesn’t patch, but it was a neat video idea. 🤷🏻‍♂️
I’m back 😉

 

[TOM1211]

I have the same here. Was it an OTA update? I created a USB and tried to install Sequoia on a blank volume, but it did not work.
It freezes here. Just curious and happy to know that someone else did it on day one/two!

Downloaded the installassistant.pkg installed from Sonoma on a newly created blank partition of 80gb using OCLP 1.5 no issues.

 

[TOM1211]

But beyond any assessment of whether Sequoia can work well in OCLP even with the Post Install Patch, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW kindly, from those who have already installed it, whether the Desktop and Finder look very different to you from Sonoma's or whether, all in all, nothing changes or it changes so little that you don't even notice if you happen to put the same background back on both
Thank you

There’s a password app if you could put the password app on Sonoma it looks the same I bet with intel the differences will be next to none.

 

[GMShadow]

I thought that Intel would be in the cards this year. Not sure if I can make that same prediction next year.

What's interesting are the dropping of the 2018 AND 2019 MacBook Airs. Typically Apple keeps non-Pro machines around in the yearly cycle for 5-6 years so both are going right at the 6 and 5 year window respectively. Some previous years have allowed older machines to linger a bit longer but not this year. My daughter's 2020 MacBook Air survives.

Curious that the 2018 iMacs survived but the 2018 and 2019 MacBook Airs did not. Probably because the 27" was sold into 2020 and the 21.5" lasted into 2021. Airs are replaced in the lineup more often.

Pro desktops typically have gotten 8 years of service with a few exceptions. So the iMac Pro with Xeon processors introduced in December 2017 is still alive but this time will probably be its last.

Same story for the Intel Mac Pro (2019).

The 2018 and 2019 Pro laptops are still around like their desktop cousins.

The last Intel Mac mini introduced in 2018 is still with us....unusual for year 7 except Apple kept selling it until about 18 months ago when the M2 chip arrived so I think that's why it stays.

My guess is something about Amber Lake posed an issue - likely performance. The 2019 was just the 2018 with True Tone - Apple's model designators even list them as MacBookAir 8,1 and 8,2, while the 2020 was 9,1 reflecting an actual new generation.