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macintoshmac

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Mine was the opposite issue, not waking from sleep. I've installed Metamphetamine and that seems to have stopped it from going to sleep, or locking up while being idle - even with locking the screen.

Oh, my bad, I might have structured my sentences in some way that causes confusion. :oops:

I have the exact issue as you, not waking from sleep. I tried to counter the issue by making the computer not sleep.

Between yesterday and today, I have realised something new regarding the issue.

To prevent computer from going to sleep, I tried to adjust settings to keep display and disks from sleeping. This seemed to not work at all. At the time, computer was connected to power. (And to be sure, I had set relevant settings in both Battery and Power Adapter under Energy Saver settings.

In the evening, I was without adapter, with the same settings. Hours later, I came back to the computer with the screensaver running and display awake, as I had intended to in Settings. So these settings were respected on battery. Wake from sleep on battery and without needs testing, which I will today.

Prima Facie Deductions

1. "prevent display from sleeping" setting has no effect when connected to power and computer still goes to sleep in its own time.
2. "prevent display from sleeping" setting works as expected when on battery. Display never sleeps if it is set to not sleep.
3. I will see now how "wake from sleep" behaves when on battery.

Obviously, will report this to Apple. Requesting anyone else reading this to report your own observations to Apple to help resolve this annoying/ potentially crippling issue.

Thanks!

EDIT

Sleep (and wake from sleep) is working just fine if the computer is not on power adapter. It is on power adapter that all issues are arising for me, on my MacBook Air 2017. Submitting this new info to Apple.
 
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rwilliams

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Bad news: the freezing problem persists in developer beta 5. Pretty unacceptable IMO.

The Catalina betas have been rough. I've run the betas of MacOS releases over the last few years, and Catalina is by far the worst they've done in a long time. I hope they can smooth this OS out by September, but they've got quite a ways to go in a short time.
 

NecRosex

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The Catalina betas have been rough. I've used the last several MacOS betas, and this one is by far the worst they've done in a long time. I hope they can smooth this OS out by September, but they've got quite a ways to go in a short time.
Agreed, worst since OS X Lion.
 

cambookpro

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I'm not running Catalina yet - But Mojave has an issue of Mail appearing (even when in a full-screen app) at random, lots of people seem to experience it - Was just wondering if it's fixed. Fingers crossed it is!
I'm yet to install DB5, but this bug was still present in early Catalina betas for me. I moved to Airmail, thinking Mail would never get fixed, but now it's a subscription service on iOS so looking for something else I can use across Mac and iOS...
 
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uniquexoxo

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The Catalina betas have been rough. I've run the betas of MacOS releases over the last few years, and Catalina is by far the worst they've done in a long time. I hope they can smooth this OS out by September, but they've got quite a ways to go in a short time.

Agreed, worst since OS X Lion.

I think it’s because they are implementing a lot of new features in Catalina, and with a lot of new features comes with bugs and issues too.
 

davis4fun

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Same here. Left it installing last night and this morning was just a black screen with a cursor.

Had to force a shut down by holding the power button, but on starting up again I get as far as the Apple logo and the progress bar stops at about a third of the way. This happened on multiple attempts.

I've now left it overnight to see if it just needs a long time, otherwise it looks like I'm going to have to wipe and go back to Mojave.

I'm really curious about how long it takes for installing. I also left it overnight and it still says 'About 2 minutes remaining'. But actually it has been more than 12 hours.
Should I try force shutdown and reboot or just wait longer?
-------------after 5 more hours------------------
I manually power off my mbp, and reboot it. And it's OK now.
 
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ErikGrim

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My iCloud issue where I would require to sign in again to use some services finally went away when I clicked continue in this beta. Previously clicking continue would do nothing. So nice not to have a useless notification badge on preferences again :p
 
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NecRosex

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I am now in an endless loop of restarting.
Was trying to switch off SIP and see the Log via CMD + L, But now that I restarted again, the bar doesn’t finish loading at around 70-80% it crashes and the screen is black, When I click any keyboard button the Apple logo shows up, the bar starts to fill and crashes again...
Tried PRAM reset, no change. Can’t get out of the loop. Only boot to Recovery.
 

Gravydog316

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@ErikGrim

Something seems to have gotten worse for me in the beta. Now, the computer is not respecting manual sleep and just goes to sleep when it does (after some time) and never wakes up without a restart. I tried to set the computer to not sleep, there is no direct option, so I tried not letting the display sleep, disks sleep, and now post lunch I found the display off and the computer shut down.

I read previously that you, too, failed to keep the computer from sleeping, right? Any luck with the Feedback (if you submitted)? My feedback that I submitted on July 21, which was marked by Apple as investigation complete, is now open again, possibly due to my adding to the feedback.

I hope the next beta resolves that issue somehow. This is a serious dealbreaker at the moment. I can't leave a large download running. Just some days ago I could simply set the display to not sleep and be happy. Today, no matter what setting, the computer sleeps after some time.
mine is VERY slow to wake from sleep, (like 3 minutes?)
but EVERYTHING is slow
 

macintoshmac

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Beta 5 has seemingly fixed the crash while asleep/idle bug for now. Even without resorting to amphetamine.

Relieved to read that.

Would you kindly check this both while plugged in and without, whenever you have time, and post here what your feedback is? Unfortunately I have a serious power outage at my place that will take hours to rectify, so can't check while plugged in today.
 

davis4fun

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Freezing problem is really terrible. Cannot sleep or wake. Nothing happens when shaking my mouse.
With heating problem and freezing problem, my mbp turns to be a hot brick. WTF.
 

macintoshmac

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Beta 5 has seemingly fixed the crash while asleep/idle bug for now. Even without resorting to amphetamine.

Somehow, not for me. Connected to power adapter, computer went to sleep, and I have just restarted it with the power button. :p

Wake from sleep works fine (I think) when not connected to power.
 
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thebluepotato

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Beta 5 seems to have fixed none of the bugs I had and introduced new ones:
Previous:
  • Blank Apple Music section in Music.app, possibly due to me being in Switzerland and my account being US (10+ reporters)
  • Impossible to sign into App Store (when entering correct credentials, sheet disappears but no login is performed), therefore cannot download updates. Have tried with a Swiss account and it worked so I guess it's also due to the "country mismatch" (10+ reporters)
  • Mail.app that keeps showing up spontaneously (not fixed in beta 5, has been happening in Mojave and is soooooo annoying) (10+ reporters)
  • Time Machine backups not completing (although not sure it had time to do that under beta 5 yet), error 45 (weirdly enough, less than 10 reporters)
New:
  • Firefox crashes on start :(
 

Damoh

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Not knowing how to call it, it‘s difficult for me to search for people with the same problem, so here‘s my question:

Since I updated to Catalina yesterday, I noticed a weird sleep-mode behaviour on my MacBook Pro Retina (early 2015): If it goes to sleep, I can‘t wake it up unless I hard-switch it off and on again.

Anyone having similar probs? Cheers :)
 

macintoshmac

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Not knowing how to call it, it‘s difficult for me to search for people with the same problem, so here‘s my question:

Since I updated to Catalina yesterday, I noticed a weird sleep-mode behaviour on my MacBook Pro Retina (early 2015): If it goes to sleep, I can‘t wake it up unless I hard-switch it off and on again.

Anyone having similar probs? Cheers :)

Welcome to the sleepyhead computers' club.

MacBook Air 2017 does the same. However, I have found that the behaviour is 100% fine when on battery. Sleep and wake is haywire when connected to a power adapter.
 
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macintoshmac

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That was easy, thank you - Will watch for more infos here :)

Apart from that sleep issue when connected to power adapter, beta 5 is a decent step forward in terms of fixing the glitches that I had related to Finder and iCloud Drive, especially. Will see over the next week or two how it sustains.
 

krusnof

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Same issue here. Wasn’t present in B4 or earlier for me. 13” Early 2015 MBP
Welcome to the sleepyhead computers' club.

MacBook Air 2017 does the same. However, I have found that the behaviour is 100% fine when on battery. Sleep and wake is haywire when connected to a power adapter.
 
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