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adrianlondon

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Worked in Catalina Beta 1 though, as I said.
I don't know enough at the MacOS/Unix level to know exactly what is stored in the new system read-only volume, but B1 had that volume writeable whereas B2 doesn't. A test would be to disable SIP and try the updates again.

The good thing (to me) about SIP now is that it no longer needs to be re-enabled. A reboot re-enables it automatically.
 

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I have been running all of the developer betas for the last 3-4 years and never had any issue big enough to warrant me reverting back to a previous OS. Right now I have a disappearing storage issue that is crippling my machine. I should have over 100gigs free but it is down to 9 and shrinking. NOTHING I do fixes the issue. I deleted my entire iTunes/Music library stored on the hard drive and it won’t reclaim the space. I have no idea what do do other than to format the drive and go back to my latest backup. Frustrated.
 

adrianlondon

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Most of my smart albums (in Photos) caused the app to crash in B1 but that's been fixed for me now in B2.
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I don't know enough at the MacOS/Unix level to know exactly what is stored in the new system read-only volume, but B1 had that volume writeable whereas B2 doesn't. A test would be to disable SIP and try the updates again.
I disabled SIP and the update failed. Note that disabling SIP does *NOT* make the root volume writeable. After exiting recovery mode, "csrutil status" now shows "disabled" but attempts to edit/create/delete in the root volume result in a "Read-only file system" error.
 
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Cyberpower678

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Most of my smart albums (in Photos) caused the app to crash in B1 but that's been fixed for me now in B2.
[doublepost=1560871815][/doublepost]I disabled SIP and the update failed. Note that disabling SIP does *NOT* make the root volume writeable. After exiting recovery mode, "csrutil status" now shows "disabled" but attempts to edit/create/delete in the root volume result in a "Read-only file system" error.
SIP is completely different from the file system. SIP is a permissions system on the file system. A drive can be mounted to be read-only and nothing can be done to make it writable unless it was unmounted and remounted. Of course you can’t unmount the active root drive without crashing macOS. That’s the beauty of the security implementation.

MacOS would need to be instructed to mount the root volume as writable which I believe is done via a file present in the root volume. You might be able to access it in a writable state via the terminal in recovery mode and make alterations to said file to prevent it from mounting in read-only mode.
 
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adrianlondon

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Thanks for the explanation.

I have no real desire to do any further workarounds apart from occasionally disabling SIP. I do like to think I have full control of all options, just in case, even if I never want to use them. It's up to the app writers to ensure their apps work with Catalina.

As for the original issue ... I downloaded Word, Excel and Powerpoint 16.26 versions directly and ran the individual package installs/updates which worked. It's just the MS Office updater that is obviously trying to do something it can't.
 

OJCDEV

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Struggling to get any apps to update on the Mac app store. I can't login with my app id either. When trying to update an app individually, it prompts for my Apple ID but nothing happens after entering it. Any workarounds or advice? Thanks
 
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Cyberpower678

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I honestly don't see any improvement at all with this update. Literally none of my bugs I reported have been fixed.

I still can't empty my trash bin, certificate management of https sites with bad certificates still don't work, etc...
 

ChronicLynx

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I honestly don't see any improvement at all with this update. Literally none of my bugs I reported have been fixed.

I still can't empty my trash bin, certificate management of https sites with bad certificates still don't work, etc...
I’m having similar problems. Nothing I reported for iOS or macOS even got touched.
 

Jumpie

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Struggling to get any apps to update on the Mac app store. I can't login with my app id either. When trying to update an app individually, it prompts for my Apple ID but nothing happens after entering it. Any workarounds or advice? Thanks

I'm having this same issue. I'm logged out of the App Store. I try to log in and nothing. Anyone?
 

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Does anyone have issues with not being able to switch on Media Sharing and Home Sharing? it wouldn't work on beta 1 so I have clean installed beta 2 but still not turning on. I am running on a 2015 MacBook
 

liquidnonsense

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Well, unfortunately it looks like the iOS team got all the senior developers this time around. No noticeable changes in Catalina Beta 2, all major issues are still present—still can't empty my Trash or otherwise delete any files, the Photos app is unusable (permanently shows "scanning library" or some similar message with a spinner), and Finder's iPhone sync is still broken in multiple ways (can almost never actually initiate a sync, and its buggy UI keeps "detaching" from the window and hovering over the desktop.)
 
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Converseallstar95

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I have been running all of the developer betas for the last 3-4 years and never had any issue big enough to warrant me reverting back to a previous OS. Right now I have a disappearing storage issue that is crippling my machine. I should have over 100gigs free but it is down to 9 and shrinking. NOTHING I do fixes the issue. I deleted my entire iTunes/Music library stored on the hard drive and it won’t reclaim the space. I have no idea what do do other than to format the drive and go back to my latest backup. Frustrated.

https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/117223#362436
 
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adrianlondon

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Importing pictures into Photos isn't reading the "title" field from EXIF/IPTC. The metadata is kept in the file, as when I re-export it it's still there.

If I use Photos to enter a title it (correctly) over-writes the title field.

I'm sure this used to work.
 
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