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fisherking

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....and as someone who's used a Mac and an iPhone since 2007, I disagree. It sure does look like it should be, though, right? Considering how much it LOOKS like the Settings on an iPhone? Too bad it's all just eye candy.
and it's all opinion, irregardless of how long anyone has used a mac (& iphone), who we are, what we do for a living... we're all equally entitled to our opinions... just as apple is entitled to do what they want; it's their OS.

i, for one, appreciate apple's constant striving to move forward, even if i don't always like every aspect. that's ok 👍
 

jvlfilms

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I am having a lot of issues using an external display on my M1 Max MBP 14" under the official Ventura release.

I am getting random wake ups every couple of minutes. Once I unlock the machine however, my Magic Mouse buttons become completely inoperable - I can right click but not left click which is super weird, and also affects my trackpad as well! I have to force restart the computer to gain access to the machine.

Anyone have this issue?
 
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steve333

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Facebook is just a hot mess now using Safari.
Anyone else notice a long delay left clicking on a picture to save to desktop?
 

Don MC

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Annoying bug: Often when replying to an email and trying to send it, the email app asks me to "add a recipient" although there already IS a recipient. The mail does get sent normally when I press "send anyway".
 
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srbNYC

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I can't believe when you set a rule for mail in different accounts to be displayed in different colors, it just doesn't "stick." This has been forever. Seems fixable...and yet.
 

adrianlondon

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The Facebook issue may be coming from facebook itself. I tried Brave but it was acting just as funky
I agree with you.

I use Firefox and as admin of a FB group tend to pop in once a day at least. They've been playing around with their layouts etc so I think any issues are FB's own rather than Ventura's (well, Safari's).
 
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steve333

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I agree with you.

I use Firefox and as admin of a FB group tend to pop in once a day at least. They've been playing around with their layouts etc so I think any issues are FB's own rather than Ventura's (well, Safari's).
Facebook is driving me crazy. I use ti a lot during election season and at times I want to scream! Buggy, flighty, fidgety, just a mess
 
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R3k

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MacinMan

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Aliases in the dock are only displayed as a blank white paper icon.

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I had this issue with all archive types. Blank document icon in the Dock, normal icon in finder. I went back to Monterey as it's the last officially supported OS on my late 2015 27" iMac. Ventura ran and installed great with open core legacy patcher, but not wanting to deal with the bugs, especially these kind that should have been fixed before release. Will give Ventura some time to mature, as Monterey has some support time left for security updates. If macOS keeps going downhill like this, might consider changing to Linux as an alternative. Ubuntu 22.04 runs great on the iMac and has lets problems to solve than Apple's own OS.
 
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gilby101

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Monterey has some support time left for security updates.
Monterey has some support time left for some security updates.

To quote apple: "Because of dependency on architecture and system changes to any current version of macOS (for example, macOS 13), not all known security issues are addressed in previous versions (for example, macOS 12)."
 

szilske

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I made a USB installer and then booted to that and installed the final release over itself. I was getting 5-10 WindowsServer crashes a day seemingly at random.

I can still seem to crash macOS when scrolling thru the Notification Area, though.
(I'm on a 2020 M1 MBP 16GB/2TB model)

But overall it got better after installing the final release again? Might be worth trying..
 

gank41

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But overall it got better after installing the final release again? Might be worth trying..
Yes! I have only had one hard crash since, and that was from scrolling thru my Notification area/Widgets. Everything froze up and had a reboot. But yes, much better than 4-6 Kernel Panics by noon.

I was actually about to upgrade my 2018 Intel Mac mini from Monterey to Ventura right now.
 

MacinMan

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Monterey has some support time left for some security updates.

To quote apple: "Because of dependency on architecture and system changes to any current version of macOS (for example, macOS 13), not all known security issues are addressed in previous versions (for example, macOS 12)."
I would be more concerned if I was the average person who didn't understand security, or didn't know how to put into practice good usage. Typically I use a third party browser, such as Chrome, Firefox, Brave, Edge, etc. I'm not dealing with enterprise level stuff, so I'm a single user. I feel a lot of Apple's security warnings are geared toward either Enterprise, or people who don't know what they are doing.

With that said, it's always good to be aware, and within reason take precautions. That's why I mentioned, if macOS becomes too much of a danger, changing to a platform such as Linux would be a fairly easy move as the core OS is about the same, and the Applications, and specific things to Apple which really make the difference.

I tried Ventura, and just wasn't that impressed with it over what I have already plus the initial bugs I had, just told me I can wait for it, or if it doesn't get any better for what I'm looking for, than change platforms, if I have to.
 

techguy82

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Since the upgrade to Ventura, I can't access my MacBook via SMB anymore. Anyone else experiencing this or having a solution?

Edit: Not quite sure how, but I solved it somehow.
 
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PauloSera

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Safari is freezing multiple times per day. Seems to happen when it returns to the foreground from the background, the entire app locks up and is unresponsive until forced to quit.
 

PauloSera

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Facebook is just a hot mess now using Safari.
Anyone else notice a long delay left clicking on a picture to save to desktop?
I'm left scratching my head why I use Safari at all anymore.
Several times per day I have to stop using it and move to Chrome anyway.

I guess I just like the syncing of book marks and history, etc. with iOS. But I don't enjoy Safari not working with the web itself.
 
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