MP 1,1-5,1 MacPro5,1: BootROM thread | 144.0.0.0.0

[pierrox]

Tthis is awesome for the people that where scared to do the NVMe inject.

Been following this thread for a while. Scared is right, especially if your machine is used in a production environment and not your personal one you can fool around at home with.
It's not exactly very Apple to give retro-active presents like this. We're talking about a machine that's been around for a long time, like a good 10 years if you include the development after MacPro 3,1. The first surprising thing was the official lists of GPU, especially as they have never really acknowledged that those could be put in a Cheese Grater, they were originally approved for eGPU boxes like the Sonnet kit.
They know for sure that there are still a lot of pros out there using their Cheese Graters, is it a way of saying to the nerdiest of those that Apple still thinks about the pros? Or to give us hope that the next Mac Pro will be so amazing that we should stick around a bit and not build a PC/Linux box?

 

[h9826790]

Why I never think about that. We should submit bug reports about SSD on PCIe card’s recognised as external. The OS consider they are ejectiable is obviously more than cosmetic issue.

 

[tsialex]

Why I never think about that. We should submit bug reports about SSD on PCIe card’s recognised as external. The OS consider they are ejectiable is obviously more than cosmetic issue.

You can't eject your boot drive. AFAIK, the problem is when installing Windows.

 

[phoenix.factory]

Hi all,

I'm new here. Just wanted to share what I've succeeded just reading this thread. Thank you all.

cMP 1
2009 5.1 upgraded to 140.0.0.0.0
GPU Sapphire Nitro+ 580 8 Go
NVME toshiba 256 Go
Mojave 10.14


cMP 2
2009 5.1 upgraded to 140.0.0.0.0
GPU EVGA 980Ti Mac flashed
SAMSUNG SATA 850 Pro
HighSierra 10.13.6 - no nvidia drivers for Mojave


This is bringing great opportunities to keep my cMPs alive for a few more years.

 

[h9826790]

You can't eject your boot drive. AFAIK, the problem is when installing Windows.

But we can eject non boot drives, they also show as external.

 

[tsialex]

But we can eject non boot drives, they also show as external.

You can eject internal drives connected to the native SATA ports too, exact same behaviour. I'm not seeing a problem here.

 

[LightBulbFun]

You can eject internal drives connected to the native SATA ports too, exact same behaviour. I'm not seeing a problem here.

you can unmount internal SATA drives

but you cant eject them, a bit a difference (nor can you hot plug them sadly)

I dont have an NVMe drive to test, so i cant tell if that eject button is greyed out on them or not.

 

[h9826790]

you can unmount internal SATA drives

but you cant eject them, a bit a difference (nor can you hot plug them sadly)

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I dont have an NVMe drive to test, so i cant tell if that eject button is greyed out on them or not.

This is exactly what I mean. Ejectable, not just unmountable.
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You can't eject your boot drive. AFAIK, the problem is when installing Windows.

And make it can install / boot Windows natively still better.

 

[tsialex]

This is exactly what I mean. Ejectable, not just unmountable.
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And make it can install / boot Windows natively still better.

You are forgetting external drive arrays connected by PCIe. Apple will answer that the behaviour is intended.

If you want to request hot plug support, I'm all in, but to change PCIe drives to non ejectable, it's no go at least for me and maybe a lot of people.

 

[LightBulbFun]

You are forgetting external drive arrays connected by PCIe. Apple will answer that the behaviour is intended. If you want to request hot plug support, I'm in, but to change PCIe drives to non ejectable, it's no go at least for me.

im just wondering if that eject button is or is not greyed out on the external showing PCIe SSDs?

and if its not greyed out what happens if ya click it? does it just unmount the device or does it somehow manage to eject the entire drive from the PCIe bus? like how it ejects a USB stick LOL

 

[tsialex]

im just wondering if that eject button is or is not greyed out on the external showing PCIe SSDs?

and if its not greyed out what happens if ya click it? does it just unmount the device or does it somehow manage to eject the entire driver from the PCIe bus? like how it ejects a USB stick LOL

Eject, you can't even re-mount it with diskutil mountdisk. That's the behaviour needed with PCIe arrays to disconnect it.

Hotplug support would be wonderful, but I don't have such high hopes.

 

[bsbeamer]

FWIW, both Apricorn Velocity Solo X2 (with one SATA SSD) and Duo X2 (with two SATA SSDs) which are connected via PCIe show as ejectable. No strange behavior for either of them. The Solo is my current boot drive. Still on 10.13.6 and not yet on 140.0.0.0.0 firmware.

 

[RetroDan]

So is the Highpoint 7101a the only quad M.2 NVME card that will work in the cMP? With the release of 140.0.0.0.0, I've been looking for one with 4 M.2 slots, but have had little luck.

 

[tsialex]

So is the Highpoint 7101a the only quad M.2 NVME card that will work in the cMP? With the release of 140.0.0.0.0, I've been looking for one with 4 M.2 slots, but have had little luck.

Amfeltec Squid.

 

[turluttu]

Checked three times. It's real!!! Apple included the NVMe EFI module!!!!

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It's a different NVMe EFI module than MP61:

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PCIe drives still recognised as external.

Thanks for the research. I am very happy!

 

[GSXB]

This is pretty much how I do it as well.

1) Download the macOSUpd10.14.1.RecoveryHDUpdate.pkg (thanks MisterAndrew PM me the link. Just learnt how to search the SUCatalog. Will do it myself next time. Thanks tsialex posted the SUCatalog link, and of course, share all his findings)
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2) Right click the file, choose "The Unarchiver.app to unzip it.
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3) Inside the "macOSUpd10.14.1.RecoveryHDUpdate" folder, double click RecoveryHDMeta.dmg to mount it
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4) Then double click BaseSystem.dmg to mount it. View attachment 793386

5) Double click this "install macOS Mojave Beta.app" to trigger the firmware update. View attachment 793387

6) Then just the usual stuff. Follow the on screen instruction, click shut down, wait 10s, press and hold power button until the long beep, release power button and wait for auto reboot. Anyway, as expected, this can be down with just the RX580, no Mac EFI GPU is required.
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Because he want to utilise all 4 slots

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[turluttu]

Are all kinds of NVME M2 supported?

 

[Squuiid]

Amfeltec Squid.

Which fits nicely with a GTX 1080 FE in slot 1 and the Squid in slot 2 btw. Not sure about the RX 580 Pulse, is it wider than the 1080 FE?

 

[tsialex]

Are all kinds of NVME M2 supported?

There is only one type of PCIe NVMe drive, AFAIK.

If you are asking if all PCIe NVMe drives are supported, Samsung 950PRO is do not work.

 

[turluttu]

There I only one type of PCIe NVMe drive, AFAIK.

If you are asking if all PCIe NVMe drives are supported, Samsung 950PRO is do not work.

Thanks for the answer. Will it work?

 

[tsialex]

Thanks for the answer. Will it work?

Yes, but buy a model with heatsink. NVMe drives get hot.

 

[fhturner]

If you are asking if all PCIe NVMe drives are supported, Samsung 950PRO is do not work.

Why is that? Just curious...

 

[tsialex]

Why is that? Just curious...

Just don't work, white screen forever on boot.

 

[highvoltage12v]

Hi all,

I'm new here. Just wanted to share what I've succeeded just reading this thread. Thank you all.

cMP 1
2009 5.1 upgraded to 140.0.0.0.0
GPU Sapphire Nitro+ 580 8 Go
NVME toshiba 256 Go
Mojave 10.14


cMP 2
2009 5.1 upgraded to 140.0.0.0.0
GPU EVGA 980Ti Mac flashed
SAMSUNG SATA 850 Pro
HighSierra 10.13.6 - no nvidia drivers for Mojave


This is bringing great opportunities to keep my cMPs alive for a few more years.

Same here one of my Mac Pros still have an EFI gtx970 in it that was NVMe flashed on 089 and High Sierra. I just extracted recovery from one of other Mac Pros, and ran it on the High Sierra install. Retained NVMe support while gaining the the newest firmware and still on High Sierra.

 

[Matty_TypeR]

Both my Mac Pro's updated with the new boot rom, both working perfectly with a big thanks to TsiAlex

NVMe boot has to be the best upgrade for any Mac Pro over SATA and gives my trusty Mac Pro's more life span and performance.