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bplein

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I was stuck on MP51.0089.B00 and unable to upgrade to Mojave because when it tried to do the firmware update, I never got a "boop", just the flashing lights. I probably did a lot of attempts without the long beep, probably wasted a lot of time.

To get past this, I did the following: Cleared PRAM, then cleared SMC but the "long" way: disconnect power, removed the battery while I was in there, held the button for 10s, and then put it all back together.

This allowed me to do the firmware and getting the "boop" (my name for the deep beep!)

I am now at 141.0.0.0.0

I stepped through, multiple times, lots of stuff, but without getting the "boop" I was never going to get this done. It seems like the "deep cleaning" of NVRAM/PRAM and SMC is the only thing that was going to get me past this.

Onwards and upwards. Thanks @tsialex
 

marioliv66@

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Hi, would you have a link to download the full version of 10.14.4. I am with 10.14.3 and when I go through the App Store, it sends me back to the update (and not the download of the complete installation).

My goal is to have a full installer backup of 10.14.4 to update it later if needed (and upgrade to 141.0.0.0.0).
 

bsbeamer

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Hi, would you have a link to download the full version of 10.14.4. I am with 10.14.3 and when I go through the App Store, it sends me back to the update (and not the download of the complete installation).

My goal is to have a full installer backup of 10.14.4 to update it later if needed (and upgrade to 141.0.0.0.0).

https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts/blob/master/installinstallmacos.py

Search this forum for "installinstallmacos.py" script for full directions. Latest full version is available.
 

flowrider

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Hi, would you have a link to download the full version of 10.14.4. I am with 10.14.3 and when I go through the App Store, it sends me back to the update (and not the download of the complete installation).

My goal is to have a full installer backup of 10.14.4 to update it later if needed (and upgrade to 141.0.0.0.0).

To get the full installer from the App Store, you need to go into your Applications folder and remove and trash
"Install macOS Mojave":
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Mac Hammer Fan

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I have High Sierra Boot ROM Version: MP51.0084.B00.
Can I upgrade immediately to 141.0.0.0.0?
And do I need to remove my pci-e OWC SATA III card?
 

Mac Hammer Fan

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I was able to update the firmware to 141.0.0.0. using my nvidia Geforce 980 card. But I am still in High Sierra until the Radeon rx 580 pulse sapphire arrives.
 

macbwizard

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I have an RX 580 in a 4,1 that is flashed to 5,1 and running 10.14.4 (140.0.0.0). In the last week or so I've noticed that the mouse cursor is very laggy making the computer unusable. Any ideas? Is this a bad graphics drivers that was released recently?

Doesn't seem to be an issue with the mouse itself as I have tried various mice including usb wired mice.


EDIT:
Not sure what I did - but it's working now. Reseated the graphics card and rebooted.
 
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Mac Hammer Fan

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At this moment, I have no issues. My MacPro is also a 4,1 flashed to 5,1. I use the Geforce 980 and I am still on High Sierra. I use a wired mouse.
 

OpticsGuy

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I have upgraded my 4,1 MacPro to Mojave and it was running fine until the latest update to Mojave 10.14.4. My graphics card update is a RADEON RX 560.

Now, when unattended, and I think when attempting to sleep, the computer will crash. The crash log always contains the following the backtrace which I believe is a problem with the power controller.


Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform(6.1)[56A9B673-727C-3C69-914A-5BC8ACED6DC7]@0xffffff7f87eaa000->0xffffff7f87f45fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[7706F483-87AE-3F44-BCCA-09C156F4E031]@0xffffff7f86c82000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[54C3F778-4B95-3093-A51D-D761607C96CB]@0xffffff7f86695000
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleSMC(3.1.9)[A576E278-38F4-31BB-9C04-CF7ECC45103F]@0xffffff7f86c8b000
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(220.0)[A57D8B90-7CBA-3FCF-8D41-C001F666F018]@0xffffff7f88bcb000->0xffffff7f88bf4fff

My boot ROM version is 138.0.0.0.0. I notice that 141.0.0.0.0 is what is mentioned in this thread. Could this be the problem? If so, how do I upgrade the boot ROM?
 

tsialex

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I have upgraded my 4,1 MacPro to Mojave and it was running fine until the latest update to Mojave 10.14.4. My graphics card update is a RADEON RX 560.

Now, when unattended, and I think when attempting to sleep, the computer will crash. The crash log always contains the following the backtrace which I believe is a problem with the power controller.


Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform(6.1)[56A9B673-727C-3C69-914A-5BC8ACED6DC7]@0xffffff7f87eaa000->0xffffff7f87f45fff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[7706F483-87AE-3F44-BCCA-09C156F4E031]@0xffffff7f86c82000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[54C3F778-4B95-3093-A51D-D761607C96CB]@0xffffff7f86695000
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleSMC(3.1.9)[A576E278-38F4-31BB-9C04-CF7ECC45103F]@0xffffff7f86c8b000
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(220.0)[A57D8B90-7CBA-3FCF-8D41-C001F666F018]@0xffffff7f88bcb000->0xffffff7f88bf4fff

My boot ROM version is 138.0.0.0.0. I notice that 141.0.0.0.0 is what is mentioned in this thread. Could this be the problem? If so, how do I upgrade the boot ROM?
With 10.14.4 full installer, read the first post of the thread.
 
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Mac Hammer Fan

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I consider to upgrade my second Mac Pro 4,1>5,1 to firmware 138.0.0.0.0 but I will continue to use High Sierra (HFS+) and Yosemite on this Mac. With a Geforce 980 installed I will get 5 GT/s link speed in this case. But I need Yosemite because I have older software installed and Airport doesn't work with High Sierra. (bad old Airport card). Is 138.0.0.0.0 compatible with Yosemite?
 

tsialex

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I consider to upgrade my second Mac Pro 4,1>5,1 to firmware 138.0.0.0.0 but I will continue to use High Sierra (HFS+) and Yosemite on this Mac. With a Geforce 980 installed I will get 5 GT/s link speed in this case. But I need Yosemite because I have older software installed and Airport doesn't work with High Sierra. (bad old Airport card). Is 138.0.0.0.0 compatible with Yosemite?
Read the first post of the thread.
 
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OpticsGuy

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So if I understand correctly, the reason my firmware did not update to 141.0.0.0.0 is because I did an upgrade install rather than a clean install. Correct?

Could this be the problem of my computer crashing due to the ACPIPlatform.kext?

If that is the case, here is what I would like to do to upgrade my firmware. I have a PCI card 1TB boot SSD and 4 additional 1 TB standard drives in my computer. I would plan to do a clean install on one of the other HDD's using the App Store installer. That would upgrade the firmware. After that I can go back to booting from my SSD. Do you agree that would work?
 

tsialex

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So if I understand correctly, the reason my firmware did not update to 141.0.0.0.0 is because I did an upgrade install rather than a clean install. Correct?
You don't need to do a clean install, just run the full installer.

Could this be the problem of my computer crashing due to the ACPIPlatform.kext?
No.

If that is the case, here is what I would like to do to upgrade my firmware. I have a PCI card 1TB boot SSD and 4 additional 1 TB standard drives in my computer. I would plan to do a clean install on one of the other HDD's using the App Store installer. That would upgrade the firmware. After that I can go back to booting from my SSD. Do you agree that would work?
Yes, should work, but just opening the full installer from 10.13.6.will ask you to upgrade the BootROM to 141.0.0.0.0.
 

Mac Hammer Fan

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I was able to update the firmware to 141.0.0.0.0 while booting from an SSD in an internal SATA II bay. There was no need to remove my SATA III pci card or my USB3 pci card. I didn't zap the PRAM and I didn't reset the SMC. And it even worked with my Geforce 980 though I can't install Mojave because I have no nVidia drivers for this system. Definitely there is no need for a clean install to update the firmware! :)
 
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tsialex

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I was able to update the firmware to 141.0.0.0.0 while booting from an SSD in an internal SATA II bay. There was no need to remove my SATA III pci card or my USB3 pci card. I didn't zap the PRAM and I didn't reset the SMC. And it even worked with my Geforce 980 though I can't install Mojave because I have no nVidia drivers for this system. Definitely there is no need for a clean install to update the firmware! :)
When everything is aligned, Mac Pro firmware upgrades are relatively easy to do. The problem is when you can’t upgrade and you have to troubleshoot.

If you take a look on the previous posts here, it’s fairly common to have problems.
 

OpticsGuy

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Apr 14, 2019
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Yes, should work, but just opening the full installer from 10.13.6.will ask you to upgrade the BootROM to 141.0.0.0.0.

But I am already running 10.14.4. Do I need to open run the full installer from 10.13.6 or will the full installer update if I open it on 10.14.4?
 

tsialex

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But I am already running 10.14.4. Do I need to open run the full installer from 10.13.6 or will the full installer update if I open it on 10.14.4?
Just open the full installer, it should ask you to upgrade your BootROM, even from 10.14.4.
 

Trime Yeshe

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Apr 17, 2019
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First of all I like to express my appreciation to all of you that have contributed with insight and help with the issue of upgrading older Mac Pro machines to the latest versions of MacOS Mojave on this forum. Thank you so much!

After having read tsialex thorough instructions and other useful comments on the forum I finally decided to take the plunge and try to upgrade my Mac Pro (yet again!). Like so many others I started out from High Sierra 10.13.6 with BootROM MP51.0087.B00 and through the excellent step-by-step instructions on this forum I did manage to reach to a successful installment of MacOS 10.14.4 Mojave on a 120Gb Corsair Force 3 SSD (APFS formatted and SATA-mounted), with BootROM 141.0.0.0.0 and with my Metal-compatible NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 running a dual monitor setup without any problems along the way at all!

I like to point out that it was not enough to just upgrade from 10.14.0 to 10.14.4 the regular way in order to get access to the latest 141.0.0.0.0 firmware update. For that I had to download the full Installment package 10.14.4 yet again from App Store. -Just as tsialex have pointed out many times on this forum.

My hardware setup:
Mac Pro (early 2009, MacPro 5,1)
2 x 3,46 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon (total 12 core)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780, 3Gb
32Gb 1066 MHz DDR3

My future plans are to do a clean installment of Mojave on a larger NVMe M.2 card (possibly a Samsung EVO 970 card on a PCI-e slot), install a USB 3,1 card, upgrade Wi-fi and Bluetooth on my beloved Mac!

Thank you tsialex and all others on this forum for making it possible for my 10 years old Mac Pro to have an extend life-span, yet again!

/Yeshe
 
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tsialex

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First of all I like to express my appreciation to all of you that have contributed with insight and help with the issue of upgrading older Mac Pro machines to the latest versions of MacOS Mojave on this forum. Thank you so much!

After having read tsialex thorough instructions and other useful comments on the forum I finally decided to take the plunge and try to upgrade my Mac Pro (yet again!). Like so many others I started out from High Sierra 10.13.6 with BootROM MP51.0087.B00 and through the excellent step-by-step instructions on this forum I did manage to reach to a successful installment of MacOS 10.14.4 Mojave on a 120Gb Corsair Force 3 SSD (APFS formatted and SATA-mounted), with BootROM 141.0.0.0.0 and with my Metal-compatible NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 running a dual monitor setup without any problems along the way at all!

I like to point out that it was not enough to just upgrade from 10.14.0 to 10.14.4 the regular way in order to get access to the latest 141.0.0.0.0 firmware update. For that I had to download the full Installment package 10.14.4 yet again from App Store. -Just as tsialex have pointed out many times on this forum.

My hardware setup:
Mac Pro (early 2009, MacPro 5,1)
2 x 3,46 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon (total 12 core)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780, 3Gb
32Gb 1066 MHz DDR3

My future plans are to do a clean installment of Mojave on a larger NVMe M.2 card (possibly a Samsung EVO 970 card on a PCI-e slot), install a USB 3,1 card, upgrade Wi-fi and Bluetooth on my beloved Mac!

Thank you tsialex and all others on this forum for making it possible for my 10 years old Mac Pro to have an extend life-span, yet again!

/Yeshe
Did you ever run Windows with your Mac Pro? Long story short, MP51.0087.B00 not having microcodes and Windows SecureBoot system makes havoc in the NVRAM part of the BootROM - a lot of Mac Pros bricked with this combo.

If you ever use Windows 10 with your Mac Pro while on MP51.0087.B00, additional steps are needed to repair the BootROM.
 
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