MP 1,1-5,1 MacPro5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave (10.13/10.14 BootROM upgrades instructions thread)

[marioliv66@]

To get the full installer from the App Store, you need to go into your Applications folder and remove and trash
"Install macOS Mojave":
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Lou

Sorry for my long answer.

What is strange is that I do not have an installation file in Applications. And despite everything, as soon as I do "opt" in the app sotre, it always redirects me to System Preferences / Update software. Small subtlety since the last time, I have a message asking me if I really wish to download 10.14.4 but I'm afraid it only download the update and not complete 10.14.4.

 

[bsbeamer]

Sorry for my long answer.

What is strange is that I do not have an installation file in Applications. And despite everything, as soon as I do "opt" in the app sotre, it always redirects me to System Preferences / Update software. Small subtlety since the last time, I have a message asking me if I really wish to download 10.14.4 but I'm afraid it only download the update and not complete 10.14.4.

You're probably on "the list" for the smaller download, which is the only I'm able to access the majority of the time.

Use this:
https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts/blob/master/installinstallmacos.py

If you search this forum for "installinstallmacos.py" you'll find some walk throughs, but basically just need to run terminal command and you'll see the available full installers. This code works if you place installinstallmacos.py in your Downloads folder.

sudo python Downloads/installinstallmacos.py

 

[marioliv66@]

if I understand correctly, I download installinstallmacos.py in my download folder and I type the terminal command you gave me.

And the download is automatic? there full installation file is downloading or on the Mac?

Thank you

 

[bsbeamer]

if I understand correctly, I download installinstallmacos.py in my download folder and I type the terminal command you gave me.

And the download is automatic? there full installation file is downloading or on the Mac?

Thank you

You'll get a "menu" like this in terminal. Select the product number you want (likely 3 in this case).

It will download appropriate files, then basically do its thing to generate a DMG full installer.

You'll likely have a content folder created in your user account with two folders for catalogs and downloads that contain all of the necessary "stuff" to compile your full installer. You can leave these or delete/remove after the DMG full installer is created.

Full installer always (or almost always) is called Install_masOS_(version number)-(build number).dmg and in this case would be Install_macOS_10.14.4-18E227.dmg if you need to search for location later on.

This is really the only method I can use to get the full installer reliably for the past several months.

 

[Squonk]

I tried installing 10.14.4 on my flashed 4,1 last week and had problems. If this has been already covered somewhere, please forgive me and let me know where to go or what to search on.

4,1 flashed to 5,1, hex core 3.46, 32GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 7950 3072 MB (NOT a Mac edition)
System Info shows: Supported, feature set macOS GPUFamily1 v3
Running 10.13.6 on a SSD located on a OWC Excelsior S card, formatted for APFS
Boot ROM 141.0.0.0

I downloaded the Mojave installer
Ran it to update firmware, rebooted
Installation continued, prompted for reboot.
On reboot I had black output on both screens. I waited like 45 minutes and power cycled the machine, back to black screens. I was able to boot into Safe Mode at which point my machine took me though setup as though I did a fresh installation. I was hoping to upgrade, not perform fresh install.
After going through steps to setup a new account, I went to reboot in normal mode, black screens again.

1) Was I too impatient during that black screen portion of installation?

2) I saw in a different thread about during the Mojave Betas that people were able to install using the command line:

 sudo /Applications/Install\ macOS\ Mojave\ Beta.app/Contents/Resources/startosinstall --volume /Volumes/Mojave
Do I need to do something like this for the release version?

3) Is my video card just not supported?

Thank you for any assistance.

 

[Mac Hammer Fan]

I ran the firmware update on an internal disk SATA II, did you effectively get 141.0.0.0.0?
I have a MacPro 5,1 with SSD located on a OWC Excelsior S card, formatted for APFS.
I had a few lockups and contacted OWC, they told me this card supports APFS.
At this moment, after cleaning some extensions, Mojave 10.14.4 seems to be running fine.
If I still get lockups they adviced me to reformat the SSD.

 

[Squonk]

I ran the firmware update on an internal disk SATA II, did you effectively get 141.0.0.0.0?
I have a MacPro 5,1 with SSD located on a OWC Excelsior S card, formatted for APFS.
I had a few lockups and contacted OWC, they told me this card supports APFS.
At this moment, after cleaning some extensions, Mojave 10.14.4 seems to be running fine.
If I still get lockups they adviced me to reformat the SSD.

I believe that 141.0.0.0 is properly installed. I am running the machine back in 10.13.6 and it is showing 141.0.0.0.

 

[bsbeamer]

Can you try installing Mojave to a blank/empty SATA SSD or SATA HDD connected via SATA sled? Would isolate and/or eliminate your OWC SSD adapter as possible issue. If successful, can then clone that over to OWC SSD and/or import and migrate.

 

[Squonk]

Can you try installing Mojave to a blank/empty SATA SSD or SATA HDD connected via SATA sled? Would isolate and/or eliminate your OWC SSD adapter as possible issue. If successful, can then clone that over to OWC SSD and/or import and migrate.

Yeah I can try that. I have not used the migration assistant since I dunno, Tiger maybe. Does it migrate applications successfully? Or am I looking at needing to reinstall those?

I was thinking my issue was my graphics card due to the black screens.

 

[bsbeamer]

Your GPU is not "officially" supported, but several here have been using it without modification. Since it's non-EFI you will NOT have boot screens and that is expected. Once your BootROM is at 138+ there should not be issues with non-EFI GPU in the system and installing updates as long as there are GPU drivers in the OS and it's Metal supported.

If your GPU has dual BIOS/firmware, can also try switching to other. (Do not recall which exact non-EFI models had this.)

 

[Squonk]

Your GPU is not "officially" supported, but several here have been using it without modification. Since it's non-EFI you will NOT have boot screens and that is expected. Once your BootROM is at 138+ there should not be issues with non-EFI GPU in the system and installing updates as long as there are GPU drivers in the OS and it's Metal supported.

If your GPU has dual BIOS/firmware, can also try switching to other. (Do not recall which exact non-EFI models had this.)

I have also seen others using this card successfully which is encouraging.
I have no idea about bios/firmware switching. I'd need to pull my card and lookup if mine has that.

Is it telling at all that I get video in Safe mode but not in regular boot mode?

 

[bsbeamer]

Video output from GPU means the hardware is functioning and there is almost certainly a software/data issue. Again, clean install to SATA SSD or SATA HDD in SATA sled is the first and absolute easiest troubleshoot. Eliminates MANY potential conflicts and issues.

If that works, migrate data - and it does move apps, data, etc. Works very well. Some apps with heavy "anti-theft protection" may need to be reauthorized on those accounts, but that's a completely different topic...

 

[Squonk]

Video output from GPU means the hardware is functioning and there is almost certainly a software/data issue. Again, clean install to SATA SSD or SATA HDD in SATA sled is the first and absolute easiest troubleshoot. Eliminates MANY potential conflicts and issues.

If that works, migrate data - and it does move apps, data, etc. Works very well. Some apps with heavy "anti-theft protection" may need to be reauthorized on those accounts, but that's a completely different topic...

Thank you very much for the assistance. I have a 2nd SSD in a standard drive bay which is my CCC clone of my live system. I can use that for the clean install. I also have a standard hard drive with a CCC clone as well.
[doublepost=1556571193][/doublepost]I have tried installing to the ssd installed on the sataII controller - same thing, 3 minutes to install, reboot, Apple logo with progress bar and another reboot and black screens. Is this normal and something is crunching away that I should let us stay like this for a while?
[doublepost=1556572336][/doublepost]Edit: it did another reboot am now going through migration wizard.

 

[marioliv66@]

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You'll get a "menu" like this in terminal. Select the product number you want (likely 3 in this case).

It will download appropriate files, then basically do its thing to generate a DMG full installer.

You'll likely have a content folder created in your user account with two folders for catalogs and downloads that contain all of the necessary "stuff" to compile your full installer. You can leave these or delete/remove after the DMG full installer is created.

Full installer always (or almost always) is called Install_masOS_(version number)-(build number).dmg and in this case would be Install_macOS_10.14.4-18E227.dmg if you need to search for location later on.

This is really the only method I can use to get the full installer reliably for the past several months.

indeed it's strange it always worked well before, except there. I will test your propsition but before I just thought that I have a connection with Sierra, normally since this one, I could get the full installer of 10.14.4.

 

[LFO8]

Your GPU is not "officially" supported, but several here have been using it without modification. Since it's non-EFI you will NOT have boot screens and that is expected. Once your BootROM is at 138+ there should not be issues with non-EFI GPU in the system and installing updates as long as there are GPU drivers in the OS and it's Metal supported.

If your GPU has dual BIOS/firmware, can also try switching to other. (Do not recall which exact non-EFI models had this.)

Hmm.. getting a bit worried if my Sapphire Radeon RX 580, 8GB, Pulse will work. I currently am on MP51.0089.B00 and still have OS 10.13.6 installed. My old Radeon HD570 crapped out on me last saturday so I had to get another graphics card.

The plan was to update to Mojave, but now I don't knwo if I will be able to (I have yet to install the new card; waiting for the proper power cables to arrive). I have no clue if updating the firmware to get the bootrom updates will work with the new card...

 

[bsbeamer]

Hmm.. getting a bit worried if my Sapphire Radeon RX 580, 8GB, Pulse will work. I currently am on MP51.0089.B00 and still have OS 10.13.6 installed. My old Radeon HD570 crapped out on me last saturday so I had to get another graphics card.

The plan was to update to Mojave, but now I don't knwo if I will be able to (I have yet to install the new card; waiting for the proper power cables to arrive). I have no clue if updating the firmware to get the bootrom updates will work with the new card...

Once you're on MP51.0089.B00 you can download the newest 138/140/141.0.0.0.0 firmware updates with a METAL GPU installed (the RX580 8GB is a METAL GPU). Suggest you prioritize doing that soon, you're at least 3 firmware updates behind current.
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Thank you very much for the assistance. I have a 2nd SSD in a standard drive bay which is my CCC clone of my live system. I can use that for the clean install. I also have a standard hard drive with a CCC clone as well.
[doublepost=1556571193][/doublepost]I have tried installing to the ssd installed on the sataII controller - same thing, 3 minutes to install, reboot, Apple logo with progress bar and another reboot and black screens. Is this normal and something is crunching away that I should let us stay like this for a while?
[doublepost=1556572336][/doublepost]Edit: it did another reboot am now going through migration wizard.

The install and reboot to continue is not entirely strange. Often there is either a firmware update or Recovery HD partition being setup on a blank/empty/clean drive during an initial installation. As long as installation continues there's nothing to worry about.
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indeed it's strange it always worked well before, except there. I will test your propsition but before I just thought that I have a connection with Sierra, normally since this one, I could get the full installer of 10.14.4.

Some people still get the full installer no matter what. It seems once you've been given a smaller installer there is something that makes this happen continually. Removing the "Install macOS" APP does not help in my situation, but does help for some others.

The terminal command connects to Apple's own servers and you can clearly see that. No reason not to give it a shot if App Store isn't working.

 

[LFO8]

Once you're on MP51.0089.B00 you can download the newest 138/140/141.0.0.0.0 firmware updates with a METAL GPU installed (the RX580 8GB is a METAL GPU). Suggest you prioritize doing that soon, you're at least 3 firmware updates behind current.

Thank you so much. I will do that as soon as I have the beast up and running again!

 

[Squonk]

Video output from GPU means the hardware is functioning and there is almost certainly a software/data issue. Again, clean install to SATA SSD or SATA HDD in SATA sled is the first and absolute easiest troubleshoot. Eliminates MANY potential conflicts and issues.

If that works, migrate data - and it does move apps, data, etc. Works very well. Some apps with heavy "anti-theft protection" may need to be reauthorized on those accounts, but that's a completely different topic...

My Mac is running Mojave very well thanks to your advice! Thank you very much!
[doublepost=1556632615][/doublepost]

The install and reboot to continue is not entirely strange. Often there is either a firmware update or Recovery HD partition being setup on a blank/empty/clean drive during an initial installation. As long as installation continues there's nothing to worry about.

Thanks. The part that I was uncertain of was black screens after installer reboots for an extended period of time. With the clean install, this black screen time was under 10 minutes.

 

[Franckymrs]

Hello
did you find the problem of your mac pro ?
I have the same kernel !
my configuration
Macpro 4.1 flash 5.1 2x2.93Ghz
Boot ROM 141.0.0.0.0 OS X Mojave 10.14.4
Radeon HD7970 flash 7950 Mac Édition
ssd nvme pcie Samsung 960Pro

for info the beta public 10.14.5 to solve my problem of kenel panic !!

 

[Vipermachine]

I want to try Mojave on a fresh disk, but I want to keep my Sierra & High Sierra OS
Can I still boot older OS like Sierra or High Sierra after upgrading the firmware 1.41.0.0.0.0 ?

Thanx

 

[tsialex]

I want to try Mojave on a fresh disk, but I want to keep my Sierra & High Sierra OS
Can I still boot older OS like Sierra or High Sierra after upgrading the firmware 1.41.0.0.0.0 ?

Thanx

This is answered on the first post of the thread, see the last note.

 

[Vipermachine]

This is answered on the first post of the thread, see the last note.

Should read it with more care

Thanks

 

[LFO8]

You need this one:
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07GPJPPF2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
a dual mini 6 pin to 8pin

Thoroughly dissatisfied with Amazon.de. I ordered the 18AWG version of this last Saturday. Got confirmation today that I was being shipped out but no delivery untill May 13th. That's over 2 weeks for a PCIe cable that was indicated to be 'in stock' to deliver from Germany to the Netherlands. All this time I am without my Mac Pro sadly. Unable to work. I should start thinking about a back up Mac.

 

[Mac Hammer Fan]

Strange

Thoroughly dissatisfied with Amazon.de. I ordered the 18AWG version of this last Saturday. Got confirmation today that I was being shipped out but no delivery untill May 13th. That's over 2 weeks for a PCIe cable that was indicated to be 'in stock' to deliver from Germany to the Netherlands. All this time I am without my Mac Pro sadly. Unable to work. I should start thinking about a back up Mac.

Strange, mine was delivered in 3 days. It's a pity you don't have that luck.

 

[Vipermachine]

Thoroughly dissatisfied with Amazon.de. I ordered the 18AWG version of this last Saturday. Got confirmation today that I was being shipped out but no delivery untill May 13th. That's over 2 weeks for a PCIe cable that was indicated to be 'in stock' to deliver from Germany to the Netherlands. All this time I am without my Mac Pro sadly. Unable to work. I should start thinking about a back up Mac.

Maybe try here,
Its the same cable & its in The Netherlands

https://www.grandado.com/products/1...voor-mac-pro-gtx1080-videokaart-voedingskabel

Goodluck