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nicho

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Do I understand it correctly ? You were using your phone with MagSafe battery pack and the phone lost the battery while being charged by MagSafe battery pack ?

I had that exact experience today. The phone drained while in use. The magsafe battery drained very slowly. As @BB.King said, my phone was not warm to the touch and neither was the battery.

I then left my phone on the side (still attached) for just under 2 hours... and it charged from 10% to 57%... this time both were warm.
 
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MarcinRSE

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I had that exact experience today. The phone drained while in use. The magsafe battery drained very slowly. As @BB.King said, my phone was not warm to the touch and neither was the battery.

I then left my phone on the side (still attached) for just under 2 hours... and it charged from 10% to 57%... this time both were warm.
Well then I completely do not understand the point of this product. It looks like it is working only when the phone is not used. I have great mophie powerbank for this kind of situation, with wired connection. I thought I could use my iPhone and thanks to MagSafe battery pack it would stay around 90% until the battery pack depletes
 
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BB.King

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Jun 29, 2012
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Well then I completely do not understand the point of this product. It looks like it is working only when the phone is not used. I have great mophie powerbank for this kind of situation, with wired connection. I thought I could use my iPhone and thanks to MagSafe battery pack it would stay around 90% until the battery pack depletes

I had hoped the battery can at least maintain the mini’s battery when in use. Unfortunately this is not the case.

The phone battery depletes when the screen is on, and the battery pack also deletes but at a slower rate than the phone battery. I think the battery is charging the phone at 2.5W, as both the phone and battery is not warmer than normal.

When the screen is off, the battery pack depletes much faster to charge the Mini battery at around 1:1 ratio. Probably at 5W, the battery is warmer than compared to using the phone.

I attached the fully charged battery to the Mini with 80% charge, just over 7 hours later, the attached battery died and the Mini is at 44%. The phone was left alone for the last hour.

So after 6 hours of continuous usage, a 36% drop of the Mini battery is not bad at all. By it self, the Mini would have been dead around 5 hours with 80% charge.

The total weight feels similar to my old iPhone 11 Pro Max. So it’s not too heavy to use with the battery attached.

I’m not sure if this is an improvement over Apple’s old battery case. It is more convenient to attach and take off. But takes a very long time to change even 30% of Mini’s battery around 1hr. Plus the Mini still loosing battery even with attached battery.
 

Apleeseed84

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Hmmm now that I think about it, 1460m for 89 bucks is a rip off considering I can get A Belkin one that can hold 10,000 for the same price, but Hey gotta love that magsafe feature, i mean i have 3 battery packs for my trips so the more the merrier IMHO. unfortunately the Belkin one is just Qi but not magsafe meaning it was just floating in my pocket half the time, this will do. One of the few times I regret getting a leather case
 

BB.King

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Jun 29, 2012
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Hmmm now that I think about it, 1460m for 89 bucks is a rip off considering I can get A Belkin one that can hold 10,000 for the same price, but Hey gotta love that magsafe feature, i mean i have 3 battery packs for my trips so the more the merrier IMHO. unfortunately the Belkin one is just Qi but not magsafe meaning it was just floating in my pocket half the time, this will do. One of the few times I regret getting a leather case
the battery pack is rated at 11.1Wh, because the voltage is 7.62V, double the normal battery voltage, the mAh is half of typical battery pack reports. To compare properly it is equivalent of a 3000mAh battery.

Edit, one reason could because it can be changed very quickly. I just took off the battery pack from wall plug, 33 mins resulted in 71% from 0%
 
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Hmmm now that I think about it, 1460m for 89 bucks is a rip off considering I can get A Belkin one that can hold 10,000 for the same price, but Hey gotta love that magsafe feature, i mean i have 3 battery packs for my trips so the more the merrier IMHO. unfortunately the Belkin one is just Qi but not magsafe meaning it was just floating in my pocket half the time, this will do. One of the few times I regret getting a leather case
It's not Apple's quality though
 
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BB.King

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Jun 29, 2012
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Belkin makes a 10k and 2.5k battery pack with magnetic attach feature at least here in UK available on Amazon.

10k is 40% of Apple battery price, 2.5k is at 30%. Good value compared to Apple 1st party battery. But I’m not sure about overheating. I think this is the main reason Apple battery reduce charging speed when the screen is on.
Hmmm now that I think about it, 1460m for 89 bucks is a rip off considering I can get A Belkin one that can hold 10,000 for the same price, but Hey gotta love that magsafe feature, i mean i have 3 battery packs for my trips so the more the merrier IMHO. unfortunately the Belkin one is just Qi but not magsafe meaning it was just floating in my pocket half the time, this will do. One of the few times I regret getting a leather case
 
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MarcinRSE

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I had hoped the battery can at least maintain the mini’s battery when in use. Unfortunately this is not the case.

The phone battery depletes when the screen is on, and the battery pack also deletes but at a slower rate than the phone battery. I think the battery is charging the phone at 2.5W, as both the phone and battery is not warmer than normal.

When the screen is off, the battery pack depletes much faster to charge the Mini battery at around 1:1 ratio. Probably at 5W, the battery is warmer than compared to using the phone.

I attached the fully charged battery to the Mini with 80% charge, just over 7 hours later, the attached battery died and the Mini is at 44%. The phone was left alone for the last hour.

So after 6 hours of continuous usage, a 36% drop of the Mini battery is not bad at all. By it self, the Mini would have been dead around 5 hours with 80% charge.

The total weight feels similar to my old iPhone 11 Pro Max. So it’s not too heavy to use with the battery attached.

I’m not sure if this is an improvement over Apple’s old battery case. It is more convenient to attach and take off. But takes a very long time to change even 30% of Mini’s battery around 1hr. Plus the Mini still loosing battery even with attached battery.
So it looks bad and good at the same time. It’s sad that the battery pack doesn’t maintain mini’s battery life while in use, but at the same time it must slow down the discharge and add additional juice in those small moment in between when the phone is not in use. As you said, my mini also dies after around 5 hours of continuous usage and here yours is having 40% left after 6 hours of usage. And that sounds very good to me. I’m still undecided but more into it after your review . Thanks !
 
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BB.King

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So it looks bad and good at the same time. It’s sad that the battery pack doesn’t maintain mini’s battery life while in use, but at the same time it must slow down the discharge and add additional juice in those small moment in between when the phone is not in use. As you said, my mini also dies after around 5 hours of continuous usage and here yours is having 40% left after 6 hours of usage. And that sounds very good to me. I’m still undecided but more into it after your review . Thanks !

The Mini battery does depletes slower with the battery case attached. I will do a test of looping video with and without the battery attached on the weekend to see how many of extra hours the battery adds to continues usage.

The reason I chose this Apple battery is because it looks like the phone and battery communicate to minimise heat when the phone is in use. Belkin sells a slightly smaller 2500mAh magnetic battery charges at 5W for £30. I have not used it, but based on my experience with Apple battery, 5W charging might produce too much heat while the phone is in use, for the Mini at lest.

update, the battery pack charged the mini (not been used) from 50% to 90% while lost 49% of its battery. So the battery pack seems to provide 80% extra battery life for the mini, arounds 9 hours of continuous usage, more than enough for a full busy day for me.
 
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Apleeseed84

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the battery pack is rated at 11.1Wh, because the voltage is 7.62V, double the normal battery voltage, the mAh is half of typical battery pack reports. To compare properly it is equivalent of a 3000mAh battery.

Edit, one reason could because it can be changed very quickly. I just took off the battery pack from wall plug, 33 mins resulted in 71% from 0%
To be honest at the end of the day although the magsafe wobbles a bit, it’s a hell of a lot better than needing a wired cable from battery to the phone, the plus is that I can use the 10k pack to charge the iphone AND the battery at the same time, knocking 2 birds in one stone per se.
The Mini battery does depletes slower with the battery case attached. I will do a test of looping video with and without the battery attached on the weekend to see how many of extra hours the battery adds to continues usage.

The reason I chose this Apple battery is because it looks like the phone and battery communicate to minimise heat when the phone is in use. Belkin sells a slightly smaller 2500mAh magnetic battery charges at 5W for £30. I have not used it, but based on my experience with Apple battery, 5W charging might produce too much heat while the phone is in use, for the Mini at lest.

update, the battery pack charged the mini (not been used) from 50% to 90% while lost 49% of its battery. So the battery pack seems to provide 80% extra battery life for the mini, arounds 9 hours of continuous usage, more than enough for a full busy day for me.
That’s all that matters
 

tofagerl

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I have an idea to dock the Magsafe battery on an Apple iPhone Lightning Dock - BOOM, instant MagSafe stand. Remove both for on the go Phone + Battery.

?

I don't think it'll work out of the box, since the phone will be lower than the battery - but there are ways around that!
I was so wrong! It works perfectly with my iPhone Mini!
I think it will work with the others as well - the Max MIGHT bump into the table underneath.

However, it is a little awkward taking the phone off the Battery Pack without lifting the Pack off the Dock - you have to pivot the bottom of the phone towards you until it snaps off. I'll probably get used to it, but it foxed me a couple of times last night.
 

MarcinRSE

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Sep 28, 2017
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The Mini battery does depletes slower with the battery case attached. I will do a test of looping video with and without the battery attached on the weekend to see how many of extra hours the battery adds to continues usage.

The reason I chose this Apple battery is because it looks like the phone and battery communicate to minimise heat when the phone is in use. Belkin sells a slightly smaller 2500mAh magnetic battery charges at 5W for £30. I have not used it, but based on my experience with Apple battery, 5W charging might produce too much heat while the phone is in use, for the Mini at lest.

update, the battery pack charged the mini (not been used) from 50% to 90% while lost 49% of its battery. So the battery pack seems to provide 80% extra battery life for the mini, arounds 9 hours of continuous usage, more than enough for a full busy day for me.
Looking forward to your test results ! ☺️
 

BB.King

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Jun 29, 2012
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Here is another breakdown of using the battery attached to the Mini today.

Used with Apple silicone case, the battery attaches more securely and don’t move when adjusting the volume buttons unlike when attached to the phone without a case.

8:30am
Mini: 100%
Battery: 100%

10am
Mini: 90%
Battery: 99% started to charge the Mini

3:30pm
Mini: 70%
Battery: 2%

In total five and half hours of constant usage before the battery pack depleted, plus a 20% drop in the Mini’s battery, the lowest the Mini battery drooped to with battery pack attached was 50%.

With 70% battery remaining, the Mini should last another four hours of continues use, which brings to 7:30pm, so eleven hours of constant usage with the battery pack is excellent, same as my old iPhone 11 Pro Max.

Here is the result of one hour charging the battery and phone together with lighting cable plugged into the battery using a 65W UCB C charger.

3:30pm to 4pm
Mini: 70% to 77%
Battery: 2% to 54%

4pm to 4:30pm
Mini: 80%
Battery: 80%
 

dmx

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Oct 25, 2008
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is anytime else having problems with their iPhone not recognizing the pack?
12 PM here. Sometimes when I put the battery on it will show 0 percent. (MagSafe is in fact fully charged).
I’ll take the MagSafe battery pack off then put it back on then the phone doesn’t recognize it at all, does not charge the phone and does not appear in my battery widget. If I plug the MagSafe into my normal wall charger for a second, that seems to fix it and then the phone suddenly recognizes it.
 
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McPhallus

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I started this morning with a full charge on my 12 Pro Max and the battery. I had videos playing on YouTube for about 8 hours. The battery pack was fully discharged and the phone was still around 91%. One of the YouTube reviewers commented that the battery pack is probably better used as a way of slowing the discharge on the phone rather than recovering from a low battery.

Would appreciate it if someone could fully charge both their iPhone and battery pack and then tell us how it discharged.
 

coolbreeze2

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Sep 24, 2009
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Where are you all seeing the battery pack's percentage? I don't see it anywhere. Is it because I am running iOS 15 beta?
 
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adamlbiscuit

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Sep 22, 2008
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Anyone else noticed this message in the Camera app when the MagSafe Battery Pack is attached?

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eksu

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Aug 3, 2017
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Anyone else noticed this message in the Camera app when the MagSafe Battery Pack is attached?
It’s probably because the flash will reflect off the pack, try it.



I thought I’d battery pack would be a cool product to deal with battery drain and anxiety for my Mini, but unfortunately it doesn’t charge via a Qi charger. What I would like to do is put it on my Belkin Magsafe / Watch / AirPods charger where the Airpods go at night and have it ready to go in the morning and put it in a backpack or something and have it available when things get low.
 
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blairh

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Dec 11, 2007
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I really like mine! I’m on vacation and am using my iPhone a lot. I put it on the iPhone when I leave my hotel and it keeps the iPhone charged at 90% while draining from the battery pack. Perfect! Love being able to see the battery percentage of both the iPhone and pack in the battery widget.

I would like to see a silicone skin at some point for it. There is already a leather skin from Nomad. The hard matte plastic is still good in hand.
 
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