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MP 1,1-5,1 Manually Configured OpenCore on the Mac Pro
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Supposedly, macOS Ventura should be released in the next few hours, and it looks as if the developers of OCLP 0.5.0 have achieved a surprisingly good level of automation that lets users of legacy hardware install Ventura with some minor (?) hiccups, such as not being able to fully disable SIP or ending up with an unsealed system volume.
I wonder if the more knowledgable members of this thread can share some inside information about the possible use of "vanilla" OpenCore in the coming days, weeks or months (perhaps starting with 0.8.6?) in getting Ventura to work on our obsolete cMPs.
Specifically, can we retain a sealed system volume if we try to make old Metal GPUs work? Are there any constraints regarding the condition of the SIP setting? Is emulation of AVX/AVX2 an achievable goal in the foreseeable future? Would the experience of running Ventura on a cMP 5,1 be dismal or acceptable, somewhat similar to running Monterey?
I wonder if the more knowledgable members of this thread can share some inside information about the possible use of "vanilla" OpenCore in the coming days, weeks or months (perhaps starting with 0.8.6?) in getting Ventura to work on our obsolete cMPs.
Specifically, can we retain a sealed system volume if we try to make old Metal GPUs work? Are there any constraints regarding the condition of the SIP setting? Is emulation of AVX/AVX2 an achievable goal in the foreseeable future? Would the experience of running Ventura on a cMP 5,1 be dismal or acceptable, somewhat similar to running Monterey?
Answer is no. Heavily patched.
No.
Everything is possible with enough money and developer hours. It's reasonable to be achieved? No.
Beyond dismal.
If I'm not mistaken, macOS Monterey 12.6.1 has been released. Has anyone installed it successfully through OC 0.8.5 or the like?
Doing it right now.
Ventura is out as well.
I just installed 12.6.1 without any issues.
Someone asked me by PM if Ventura installed by OCLP 0.5.0 and a MacPro5,1 would be usable enough to run Xcode 14.1RC2 to compile apps and submit to the App Store, this question is interesting and probably other people will have the same doubt.
If you have a GTX 680, or other NVIDIA Kepler GPU, and a BCM94360CD (legacy AirPorts doesn't work anymore), you probably can make it work. I wouldn't think to use it as my main OS, but for compiling and submitting apps, should "work".
Btw, DRM doesn't work, nor AMD GPUs other than Polaris (I wouldn't call it really working, more a proof of concept than anything at this moment) - so, it's not for everyone.
Video and audio people should wait, it's a waste of time for these workflows at this moment.
If you have a GTX 680, or other NVIDIA Kepler GPU, and a BCM94360CD (legacy AirPorts doesn't work anymore), you probably can make it work. I wouldn't think to use it as my main OS, but for compiling and submitting apps, should "work".
Btw, DRM doesn't work, nor AMD GPUs other than Polaris (I wouldn't call it really working, more a proof of concept than anything at this moment) - so, it's not for everyone.
Video and audio people should wait, it's a waste of time for these workflows at this moment.
I was a revision ahead of my time installing Monterey so soon, though it's been spot on with the help of folk here.
I'll be watching what others do with Ventura with interest, but 12.6.1 is a nice place to be for now.
As per my previous post, I have windows 11 running beautifully on my 5,1 macpro, However, I have no audio as windows cannot "see" the Macpro's line out. I tried installing some bootcamp drivers, allegedly compatible with the 5,1, but I ended up corrupting the Windows installation to he point I had to format the drive and reinstall it. Any ideas on how to tackle this audio problem?
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You're a scholar and a gentleman! Thanks!
What gets me is how much better are the GPU drivers on the Windows side...
12.6.1 is probably where I am headed soon now that Apple is probably done with major point releases. I've stuck with BigSur since problems tend to crop up with major point releases. Even BigSur had a couple of those (e.g., 11.23 to 11.3).I was a revision ahead of my time installing Monterey so soon, though it's been spot on with the help of folk here.
I'll be watching what others do with Ventura with interest, but 12.6.1 is a nice place to be for now.
I wonder if there will be major problems with every point release of Ventura on unsupported hardware, even hardware that can run it "okay" with all of those patches? If Monterey is the end of the road, it has been a good one. Time will tell I guess.
This may be weird, but patches are not the end of the world. We can learn to use, improve and embrace it so we can get one more year out our Mac Pros. It's a worthy compromise, one more year to save money until a decent replacement is available.
I always try to avoid needing to patch anything, but this time we can't upgrade the hardware to workaround the requirements. OCLP 0.5.0 does a good job of getting a MacPro5,1 (with GTX 680 + BCM94360CD) to run Ventura. Yes, NVIDIA Kepler support with Ventura weirdly works fine and it's not alpha like AMD Polaris.
Ventura is very rough at the moment, no one should install it now, with all the USB/BT issues and DRM not working, but things will likely improve when the developers have time to look at the long list of issues that were reported.
The important thing is not to try to be an early adopter this time. If you gonna test Ventura down the road, test with a spare disk and never with your Monterey disk.
Updated to 12.6.1 on my Mac Pro 5,1 and I lost my legacy Wifi and Bluetooth and also front USB ports(!) do not recognize USB mouse anymore! However, they work for USB memory sticks. Rear USB 3.0 PCI card works fine! All worked great on 12.6, no problem at all.
Of course I've done Post Install Root Patch. Any idea? I also tried with the new OCLP 0.5.0, but nothing changed. What to try? Will it make any difference if I make 12.6.1 USB installer with OCLP and do it that way? I understood that patches for wifi and BT are installed later, in post install process, so it shouldn't matter?
Of course I've done Post Install Root Patch. Any idea? I also tried with the new OCLP 0.5.0, but nothing changed. What to try? Will it make any difference if I make 12.6.1 USB installer with OCLP and do it that way? I understood that patches for wifi and BT are installed later, in post install process, so it shouldn't matter?
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Can you comment on this a little bit? Do you know how that is working in Ventura? Still requires OCLP patching?
For me the main problem will be waiting to see how prevalant the use of AVX is. I think USB/BT and probably even DRM will be solved eventually; but I'm not as confident about AVX
Just to chime in, OCLP 0.5.0 does not work in my Monterey installation running on ESXI 7. The "Build & install OpenCore" is greyed out. The previous version worked OK.
Just before any questions, why do I run it with Open Core instead of vanilla installation? That's the only way to get content caching on a MacOS virtual machine.