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[Merged] Blackberry Storm - RIM's New Touchscreen Blackberry
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i 100% agree, whole heartedly. however, posting this here on an apple fan website will garnish you nothing but people defending the apple brand. i do agree with you 100%. hopefully apple will step up and make the iphone something more than a toy. competition is a good thing...or maybe just pay the ETF and head on over to Verizon!
Storm....Mmmmmmm! perfection is near i believe.
sorry buddy, but teens/young adults don't drive the cell market....businesses drive the cell market. i have no idea where you got the idea it was based around teens....
I think since the Storm is going to run on CDMA networks for the first little while, it will take up much of that market. The market that didnt run from Verizon to AT&T when the iPhone came out.
Storm will sell, iPhone will sell.
With the introduction of the Pearl, Pearl Flip, Curve, and Storm I think RIM has a solid line up of phones for non-business people. I see a ton of people who arent business men with a Curve or a Pearl. So dont kid your selves, RIM has a solid following from every sector of the market.
The new Javelin (Curve replacement) is so sexy.
I'm sure Steve Jobs is calling an emergency meeting in Cupertino first thing tomorrow morning to discuss future plans for the iPhone now that the 1GB Storm has been introduced.
You know it has a SD card slot, so you can expand the memory up to 16gb. So technically it would have 17gb of memory. Making it better then the iPhone
When I hear click touchscreen I think pressure-sensitive. Coming from a pressure-sensitive touchscreen I'll be damned if it even comes close to the iPhone's. The touchscreen is the iPhone's single greatest feature. Without it, all other things that make it great would be only average.
Although I know that charismatic is a word that should describe a person and not a thing, it's the only word that I can think of to describe the iPhone (maybe allure?). The iPhone has "it". No other cell phone has had "it" to anywhere near the extent of the iPhone. The Blackberrry appeal is related more to the email and connectivity addiction of it's users, hence the Crackberry name. I've never heard a Blackberry user claim that they just LOVE to just hold their phone and look at it!
If becoming an MBA, or developing otherwise "educated" business savvy, could predict rock-star appeal of a product, there would be a whole bunch of awesome products out there (and rich MBAs). The iPhone is the only cell phone with the allure that makes so many people want it knowing full well that it is lacking some major functionality. There will be lots of people who will like the Storm because of how it looks on paper and Blackberry does have quite a zealous following, but only time will tell whether it will have anywhere near the appeal of the iPhone. Nobody can predict the "charisma" of a product.
If becoming an MBA, or developing otherwise "educated" business savvy, could predict rock-star appeal of a product, there would be a whole bunch of awesome products out there (and rich MBAs). The iPhone is the only cell phone with the allure that makes so many people want it knowing full well that it is lacking some major functionality. There will be lots of people who will like the Storm because of how it looks on paper and Blackberry does have quite a zealous following, but only time will tell whether it will have anywhere near the appeal of the iPhone. Nobody can predict the "charisma" of a product.
And yet the net effect of the iPhone's strengths minus its weaknesses is that owners consistently rate their iPhone experience higher than any other mobile device, including anything RIM's released to-date.
Mac is a product. Apple is the company. And if you look at the iPhone, just about everything about it appears to be the result of Apple listening to what consumers didn't like about typical cell phones.
The iPhone doesn't have a hard drive. Do you understand the fundamental difference between a hard drive and flash memory? Have you ever owned a phone where you had to manage the internal/external storage space separately, or better yet, have to support these devices for non-tech people? Ever had to explain to a VP that even though he has an 8GB SD card installed in his BB, the BB camera app was saving his photos on the internal storage by default, and when he filled up the internal storage, the BB freed up space by removing the last 40 days of email from his device?
When has the iPhone's processor speed ever been an issue?
As for the Storm, have you read Engadget's hands-on regarding its graphics hardware? So if third-party apps can't match the iPhones, all the Storm really brings new to the table is a touch-screen interface to the BlackBerry OS. "Unfortunately, as far we can tell there's no hardware video acceleration, which shouldn't be a problem for correctly-compressed video, but there aren't any Apple or Nokia-style swooping transitions in, we don't have high hopes for gaming, and stuff like browsing through photos and and panning around web pages is fairly choppy. The lack of hardware acceleration could also cut down on battery life"
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/08/blackberry-storm-9500-hands-on/
DING DING DING we got a WINNER!!!!!!!!
I guess Apple just going to seat around and let RIM come in and punk them
Another thing to note a lot of BB user don't like touch screen phones, so I really don't see them trading in their Curve's and Bold's for the Storm
I work in the business support industry. I can confirm that a lot of BB users don't really like touch screens. I see hundreds of "business people" every day at work and most of them have antiquated Blackberrys, (i'm not a BB fan, so I don't know all the different models). The most "fancy" ones I see are probably the Pearl.
In response to BB defeating the iPhone; this is a very bold statement. The iPhone is a consumer and enterprise class smartphone. BB's tend to be for enterprise alone. So while the Storm may sway more enterprise customers, the iPhone will keep chugging along with its 10+MILLION customer base. Apple made their YEAR END customer goal in less than 4 months? Thats crazy! The iPhone is beyond a simple device, it will become a phenomenon, like the iPhone.
Some random thoughts:
1) It's on Verizon. The iPhone is not. Many people refuse to leave Verizon. It might not steal sales from ATT, but it will definitely sell.
2) It's a BB. That means companies will be more accepting of it.
3) It's got actual functionality instead of just good looks.
4) Android forced Apple to allow development on the iPhone, and ultimately to get rid of that ill advised SDK non-disclosure agreement. With any kind of luck, the Storm will force Apple to add more functionality.
5) One effect of iPhone competition is that it all pushes the iPhone away from its original purpose... to be a dirt simple device.
1) It's on Verizon. The iPhone is not. Many people refuse to leave Verizon. It might not steal sales from ATT, but it will definitely sell.
2) It's a BB. That means companies will be more accepting of it.
3) It's got actual functionality instead of just good looks.
4) Android forced Apple to allow development on the iPhone, and ultimately to get rid of that ill advised SDK non-disclosure agreement. With any kind of luck, the Storm will force Apple to add more functionality.
5) One effect of iPhone competition is that it all pushes the iPhone away from its original purpose... to be a dirt simple device.
Apparently the Storm is capacitive _and_ has the ability to use pressure and give feedback.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=225
BlackBerry Storm - "Press and be Impressed"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_87v_LfiZw
It's not the Mac OS X but it sure has a nice UI. BB appears to have built a device that addresses many complaints of iPhone users. This just may give Apple a run for its money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_87v_LfiZw
It's not the Mac OS X but it sure has a nice UI. BB appears to have built a device that addresses many complaints of iPhone users. This just may give Apple a run for its money.
Well, duh!
I don't know what's funnier - the initial troll or the knee jerk reactions.
I think you're absolutely right. There are 3 types of iphone owners; the ones that love (and everything Apple does) regardless, the ones that can't stand it (and have either returned it already or are considering canceling their contract), and those that hover somewhere in the middle. I'm in between - I love the phone but I'm also quickly starting to hate Apple. I'm just waiting for a good comparable touchscreen to come out and I'm gone - I was actually going to sell my iphone and get the G1 (as ugly as it may be), but decided to wait for the Storm to arrive. I think there are a lot of people out there in the same boat that are just begging for a good alternative touchscreen to the iphone, and this may be just the answer. If any company can properly compete it's going to be Blackberry - it already has the fan base and proper brand recognition. The majority of people out there either have an iphone or a BB. Among those owners you have some people (like me) that would have liked to purchase a BB but wanted a good touchscreen leaving no other option but Apple. Than you have those that are fanatic about Verizon and hate AT&T, and I think that just between those 2 categories of people the Storm has a big marketshare. If they do this right, there's no doubt Apple will feel it!
I agree with everything you just wrote. Will the storm be enough to pull me away from apple...we'll see.
I think the real competition here is between AT&T and Verizon, not a couple of phones that will be inconsequential in a year. In that regard, there is no comparison. Verizon's network is lightening fast and AT&T's is 10 pounds of crap in a 5 pound sack.
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The OP lists a bunch of features which the type of people who frequent internet forums complain about, but have almost no effect the number of most actual purchases.
BB's sell well because they have a tactile keyboard with which new users make less spelling mistakes (they think), corporate IT is familiar with supporting them, and the VP (or major client) has one, so every other corporate-climbing management wannabe has to have one as well.
The iPhone sells well because it is an iPod (Touch), runs a decent web browser on wifi, and is just as cool a fashion accessories as stuff (purses, watches, sunglasses, etc.) which is even more expensive, plus does a decent job at phone calls as well.
The iPhone took a big bite out of BB's, and the Storm will take a tiny bite back, but it really answers none of the differences between the two manufacturers that actually causes most buyers to purchase things instead of just complain.
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The OP lists a bunch of features which the type of people who frequent internet forums complain about, but have almost no effect the number of most actual purchases.
BB's sell well because they have a tactile keyboard with which new users make less spelling mistakes (they think), corporate IT is familiar with supporting them, and the VP (or major client) has one, so every other corporate-climbing management wannabe has to have one as well.
The iPhone sells well because it is an iPod (Touch), runs a decent web browser on wifi, and is just as cool a fashion accessories as stuff (purses, watches, sunglasses, etc.) which is even more expensive, plus does a decent job at phone calls as well.
The iPhone took a big bite out of BB's, and the Storm will take a tiny bite back, but it really answers none of the differences between the two manufacturers that actually causes most buyers to purchase things instead of just complain.
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I thought this was already posted: Engadget Link.
Supposely Vodafone used the following images on promotional material in their site.
Supposely Vodafone used the following images on promotional material in their site.
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that promotional material was very funny. in the end, i think the iPhone serves the iPod people and the blackberry serves business people. regardless what happens, we as consumer win! who cares if more people are buying iPhones or blackberry's? i have the iPhone 3G and used to own a blackberry curve. i found the iPhone to be WAY better, and i use it for work emails quite often.
More like the iPhone helped the BBs sell more than ever.
RIM's sales almost doubled the past year, mostly because of the media coverage of the iPhone. In other words, the iPhone hype helped all smartphone makers.
As of now, RIM still outsells Apple in the USA.
Again, let me repeat: ALL smartphone sales are going up, up, up.