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[Merged] Negative Reactions to iPhone OS 4.0 / New Features
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What don't people get about iAds? You won't HAVE TO sift through anything. All it does is replace UGLY ads that will be there REGARDLESS to more attractive ones.
You do know we know NOTHING abuot the 4th gen iPhone yet, right?
So you're comparing an HTC EVO to an imaginary phone and you have an opinion on that comparison?
I'm willing to bet Apple's implementation of multi-tasking has a much lower hit on performance and battery life, with fewer stability issues, than the jail-broken multi-tasking options. It certainly works in a different VERY different way to the current options.
If you don't understand the differences in behavior between a unified view of your mail that is overlayed over discrete mail stores and forwarding everything to one account, then you probably don't need the feature.
iAds will only be present in applications that the developer chooses to implement it in. It's not being forced on you at all. I cannot imagine any paid applications will also include ads.
The presence of games on a phone platform doesn't seem to affect any IT decision making I've seen (largely since all SmartPhones have them).
Multiple Exchange account support comes up more often than you'd think. That issue goes back a long way, even in the WinMo world.
If what you have is better than what OS 4.0 offers, nothing stops you sticking with it
I thought there comparison to a PSP or DS was just a little extreme. Maybe not desperate but extreme.
There are some great quality games on iPhone. I love Angry Birds, Doodle Jump and Broken Sword. But seriously, lets face it, if you are into your games you would rather have a DS or PSP because of the quality of the software you get and the range.
The games available on my PSP Go are generally of a better quality and are lengthier. Final Fantasy for example. For a casual gamer who plays a game while on the tube in the morning for 10 mins to pass the time, iPhone is brilliant! Could even download a game on the go if you wanted but to the slightly more hardcore gamer then a iPhone can't compete really.
It's not a good thing to be a jack of all trades and a master of none Apple.
It's actually a bit humorous to see all this back and forth.
It really seems to mostly break down into people coming from two different camps. The first is looking at things from more of a technical perspective and desiring the latest in capabilities. The other group is looking at things from more of a user experience perspective. Granted there is certainly an overlap, but shoving statistics about the iPhone's dominance in the smartphone market really doesn't address someone's complaint about file management or the delay in allowing custom backgrounds, etc. Similarly many users don't care about printing and can't image it being a big deal to other users as the overall experience is still excellent.
And the way iAds was presented was simply as a replacement for 3rd party developers who want to put ads in their applications. Developers being forced to use ads or ads as part of native applications would be a large paradigm shift.
So in summary bicker away! But there seems to be a large disconnect between perspectives...
It really seems to mostly break down into people coming from two different camps. The first is looking at things from more of a technical perspective and desiring the latest in capabilities. The other group is looking at things from more of a user experience perspective. Granted there is certainly an overlap, but shoving statistics about the iPhone's dominance in the smartphone market really doesn't address someone's complaint about file management or the delay in allowing custom backgrounds, etc. Similarly many users don't care about printing and can't image it being a big deal to other users as the overall experience is still excellent.
And the way iAds was presented was simply as a replacement for 3rd party developers who want to put ads in their applications. Developers being forced to use ads or ads as part of native applications would be a large paradigm shift.
So in summary bicker away! But there seems to be a large disconnect between perspectives...
I am disappointed with 4.0.
I really was hoping I could hook up my dot matrix printer to my iPhone so I can get some real work done, like all the other avg. iPhone users out there.
Also switching the name of the carrier to be any name is something everyone does. I can't understand how Apple engineers couldn't understand the avg user needs.
LAME!
I really was hoping I could hook up my dot matrix printer to my iPhone so I can get some real work done, like all the other avg. iPhone users out there.
Also switching the name of the carrier to be any name is something everyone does. I can't understand how Apple engineers couldn't understand the avg user needs.
LAME!
Dude shut up, if you really don't like what the iPhone has to give sell it or give it to someone then buy a android and then you can stop bitching on the freaking iPhone's forums.
This is true, and I obviously will await the battle this summer between the two. However, I do doubt the new Iphone to have a facelift in the UI department as well as the hardware specs or social networking integration to be up to par with that of the new HTC. Yet I digress and will await the 4th coming.
No I wasnt comparing at all if you read the post, I merely said the HTC has user customization and all the whistles and bells of the Iphone only more-so... I dont imagine the 4th gen Iphone to come close to the specs of the HTC, and nore do I expect another OS update for the 4th gen Iphone...
yes I agree this is most definately an upgraded version, which will be most likely handed down to the "palm pre" like card system of the multifl0w app, at which point probably no difference accept the interface.
true and realize this was a good implimentation for business users and the sorts.
every developer will most likely want to make a few more bucks on a click by click ad basis, if a small integration of an ad in their app is going to get them that much more money, I fear to search for a developer who wont throw ads all around their apps.
Its the marketing, with so many stupid aps like this one
how can you try to reach the business group. RIM has a stronghold on the serious buisness sector, some because top firms dont like the security leaks the Iphone has and others just dont want to be associated with a "toy"/
if that truely is the case, then implimenting it in version 2.0 shouldnt have been a problem, the code is not hard nore should it be buggy to permit more than one exchange account.
If what you have is better than what OS 4.0 offers, nothing stops you sticking with it
I know this, I didnt expect to get something more then what I had on my current 3GS, its customed to what I like, however here's hoping...
My final statement on the Themes, again it is an easy way to give the look and feel of OS4 a completely new life, and make apple and the developers of themes a buck or two.. why so against cusomization?
Download Print N Share from the App Store, thats what I use. Works great!
This is no different than now, the developer can sign up with an ad company and make a few more bucks. Except that it's not that simple because customers don't like ads, so many free apps are add supported, while there are very, very few (if any) paid applications with ads.
Developers are not stupid, if there is a strong backlash against free apps with ads, they will move away from them to a paid model. Whatever the market dictates, the developers will do to maximize their profit.
I got bored of my iPhone and switched to an Android phone, still in the honeymoon period, but so far I love it. I switched just before this preview was announced, and I was kinda looking forward to it, as I hoped it would outline all the reasons why I'd be switching back to an iPhone later this year.
From what I've seen, well I'll probably stick with Android, lets see what next years update brings.
I don't really see why people are getting so bent out of shape about seeing negative feedback about this update, especially in a thread titled 'Negative Reactions to iPhone OS 4.0 / New Features'. I suppose some people are just a bit weird.
From what I've seen, well I'll probably stick with Android, lets see what next years update brings.
I don't really see why people are getting so bent out of shape about seeing negative feedback about this update, especially in a thread titled 'Negative Reactions to iPhone OS 4.0 / New Features'. I suppose some people are just a bit weird.
Because people whined like little girls about multi-tasking, apple implemented in the best way, along with some other stuff. People will always find a reason to bitch and people will always point and laugh at those people.
When the new iphone comes out with a better screen resolution than any other phone, front facing camera, and more, people will yet again find more reasons to bitch, and there will again be people pointing and laughing.
Nothing stops them from doing that today, and yet you don't see it any of the genuinely useful or successful paid applications.
If this were the case, I'd expect more applications on more platforms to incorporate ads, and yet you VERY rarely see them in paid products.
RIM had a stronghold on the business sector for two reasons; the first was they had push-email integration to Exchange first (they were the only option for a while), the second was better management tools.
Both of these issues are moot with Exchange OTA and the iPhone Enterprise Management tools. On top of which BES can be avoided, reducing costs.
That RIM maintains a strong position here is the, generally smart, approach of businesses of not changing existing infrastructure/investments for the hell of it.
And yet even Microsoft own offerings didn't do it early on.
It depends on what you mean by themes. If you're just talking a customziable home-screen, colors and wall-papers then yeah, sure, it is no big deal to implement. It doesn't really change anything other than superficial aspects of the experience either, so it isn't providing much value (consequently it gets little investment).
A FULLY themeable UI, such as in WinAmp or Astra takes a LOT more work than that, and to provide that level of customization at the OS level is something you don't just tack on later.
I'm not against customization, but I am a developer and I don't see the value it adds to be worth the complexity it entails in making the entire OS themeable.
Where I'm coming from is that these things just aren't a huge step forward - I don't know what would be, if I did I'd be in product design
I am not overwhelmed at the update, or what's been shown of it. If I hadn't moved already the lack of interest wouldn't have pushed me, but there doesn't seem enough there to warrant moving back yet.
Heck, I just hope the MacBook Air gets updated next week - I do really want a lightweight laptop, and no-one does computers better than Apple, in my opinion.
I feel exactly the same way. It's funny seeing people get so defensive here.
Honestly, I just switched to the Nexus One (on ATT) and I was eagerly waiting for today's presentation for reasons to go back to the iPhone this summer, but it's just not there. My biggest gripes are the lock screen and notifications.
Unless they're hiding out features, I won't be going back any time soon. But I'll definitely pay attention to see if anything changes...
As hard as I've tried, It's nearly impossible to avoid falling in love with the baseless speculation leading up to any Apple event. Of all the fantasy features we dreamed about leading up to today, I can really only say I'm disappointed that there's no lock-screen refresh. Other then that, I've been happy with the my iPhone as it was when I bought it two years ago. New features are just gravy (no multitasking for my 3G ). I've found that while I like the idea of extra frills and features, I benefit from the Apple-ease-of-use-and-quality far more then the 'latest and greatest' function or trick.
Apple may be falling behind on paper, but they're always years ahead of the competition in design and implementation. I'll stick with the iPhone for now!
). I've found that while I like the idea of extra frills and features, I benefit from the Apple-ease-of-use-and-quality far more then the 'latest and greatest' function or trick. Apple may be falling behind on paper, but they're always years ahead of the competition in design and implementation. I'll stick with the iPhone for now!
The homescreen has had an overhaul when you think about it.
Since the beginning:
- Multiple pages were added
- Spotlight search added
- Wallpapers added
- Folders added
I noticed there were multiple points to each 'tent pole' feature. So say each Tent Pole feature has a few other features under it...
Lets do the maths.
7 x 5 = 35.
92 - 35 = 57.
I've seen Apple say 'X' amount of new features and there has never really been that many.