Totally different & he has a point on price as most people won’t be buying it at that price for a start
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Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg Says Quest 3 is Better Than Apple Vision Pro
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Honestly I don’t see what the problem is if Meta’s headset is just good at gaming. I’d rather have a device be really good at one thing than meh at a lot of things. My Twitter tech feed is full of pro-Apple analysts/techies comparing Zuck to Ballmer and the guys from RIM as if every new product Apple releases is guaranteed (and should be expected) to be the leader in that product category. I think it’s WAY to early to say if Vision Pro (or computing via headwear in general) is going to be the next big thing and if Apple is going to be the leader in this space.
Do you mean “home” as in emulate the Meta home button with a hand gesture?
If so, you can hold out your right hand palm up, fingers relaxed, then hold the tip of your thumb to the tip of your index finger (or middle finger, not sure, it’s my son’s Q3😁) for a couple of seconds.
Apple fans are starting to return their Vision Pros
That 14-day return window is fast approaching.
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I'm very disappointed with the Vision Pro. I wouldn't be able to wear it as I have a lazy eye. my right eye does almost all of the work. I am not unique in this and it's a shame that Apple, being an Accessibility pioneer, did not make provision for people like me. I can everything someone with 'normal' eyes can do, except use VR or AR hardware.
The XM4's are better than the AirPods Max, in my experience. I use my XM4's in the gym and the sound quality is very good. I bought them for £280. The AirPods Max cost me £450. I actually prefer my AirPods Pro 2 to the AirPods Max. I found the AirPods Max to be an expensive mistake, as far as I am concerned anyway. I thought they would be incredible, alas no.
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I have high trust on my privacy being high priority to Apple.
I believe Apple Advertisement revenues in 2023 were ~ 1% of their total revenue. That was split between selling premium spots for apple app store and display ads in News app.
This is quite far away from Meta where 99% (?) of the revenue is advertising.
Still, I do believe Apple loses more than it gain from Ad business: Mistrust your comment above demonstrates is not worth ~ $4B a year. With clarity they could gain by pulling away from the ad business, they could increase their other sales. Also, News and App Store are a worse product due to ads.
It's an understandable concern given Facebook's past privacy violations. I think they know that as well and try to distance the xR business a bit from these practices. The sign-up process for a Meta account isn't invasive at all. They don't ask for much info, and even mention explicitly that there is no obligation to use your real name. As far as I can tell advertising is only present in their app store (where Apple does it too) and possibly in the Horizon app (Zuck's "metaverse") which I don't use. I never had a Facebook account and never will. I only got the Quest 3 last year because it's a very capable headset. I primarily use it for PC VR.
As far as I can tell, not at the moment. Movie experience is ok, streaming apps are terrible and seem outdated or unmaintained. Browser is ok. Pass through seemed quite good to be honest. So if they can get the movie experience improved and if developers updated / made streaming apps, I think quest 3 would be pretty good.
Many movie fans like the Quest because it has an app that can play ripped 3D Blu-rays without any conversion, and apparently the quality is pretty good (I don't own any 3D Blu-rays so I can't test it myself).
For me the bigger "killer app" is PCVR, because I have quite a bit of VR software from Steam and other places. It works really well via Virtual Desktop or Steam Link. This is something where the Vision Pro is sorely lacking in my view, and it's not just a software issue (a lot of PCVR software requires controllers which the VisionPro doesn't have).
It’s on the company who built its job to develop a platform that other companies want to invest in. Why has Apple TV+ come to Samsung tv’s? Bc they made it desirable for Apple to build it. And who wants to side load apps? You proved my point that you have to go outside of the given resources to make it do what you want it to. No thanks.
I totally agree that if you want a kids toy that plays a few cute games, go buy a quest. If you want it to for real entertainment and work, buy a Vision Pro. It has over 1000 apps within the first 2 weeks. It will have those games in no time. But it’s also not built for kids. It’s for adults.
The live tv aspect for sports is a game changer. I don’t even want to watch sports any other way now. 🤯
It's not Meta's fault Apple chose to come to the party so late. If you're going to stand on the shoulder of giants you should at least match, or better the work of those who came before you.
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Yeah, but he’s a liar!!
Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg today compared the Apple Vision Pro to the $500 Meta Quest 3 in an Instagram video, and provided several reasons why he thinks Meta's headset is better than Apple's.
According to Zuckerberg, the Quest 3 is better "for the vast majority of things that people use mixed reality for," and here are some of the things he said about the Meta Quest 3:
Zuckerberg said that he was surprised at the "tradeoffs" that Apple had to make to provide a higher resolution screen than is offered by the Quest 3, sacrificing "comfort," "ergonomics," and more. He went on to explain that Apple is not always the leader in a new product category, and that he hopes Meta's devices will ultimately "win."The Meta Quest 3 launched back in October. It has two 2K LCD panels compared to the Apple Vision Pro's 4K microLED displays. It weighs 515 grams while the Vision Pro weighs 600 to 650 grams, and it does not have a separate battery pack. It uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2 chipset, has 8GB RAM, and is equipped with Touch Plus controllers.
- It's 7x less expensive than Vision Pro.
- It does high-quality passthrough with big screens "just like Vision Pro."
- Quest is a lot more comfortable - it's 120 grams less.
- There are no wires that get in the way when you move around.
- The field of view is wider and the screen is brighter.
- Vision Pro has motion blur when you move around. Quest is a lot crisper.
- Precision controllers are available, as is hand tracking, and Quest's hand tracking is more accurate.
- Quest's immersive content library is a lot deeper.
- You can watch YouTube or play Xbox.
Meta has produced several headsets so far, including the Oculus Quest, the Oculus Quest 2, the Quest 3, and the Quest Pro. Apple plans to continue producing headsets, and rumors suggest that the next-generation version will be much more affordable. When explaining the price of the Vision Pro, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that it was "tomorrow's technology today."
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Why buy a pc when you can buy an Xbox? That said, competition is good and Meta just wasn’t pushing the market enough.
meaning they can come out with two models at once and one is cheaper than the other / cheaper than the original AVP? which they have done with all their products?…
idk why some of y’all are acting like this over my comment. 😂
if the roles were reversed and Apple had the head start I would still say that competitors will improve over time and be comparable to Apple eventually.
I would have to agree that the Quest 3 is better at least for me and what I would use it for. Mostly because I can hook it up to my gaming PC for some serious VR gaming at awesome frame rates which is NEVER going to be possible at that level with a locked down Apple device. Sure they have made advancements and it is actually possible to port games over to their M chips and some of them run decently but it will never be as good as a dedicated GPU. Also the price. My build was $3300 with i9 and RTX 4090. Add another $500 for a Quest 3 and I am barely over MSRP on a Vision Pro.
idk I guess I’m confused because I see plenty of times on here and other places where people have a hard time comparing a Gen 1 versus a Gen 3, 4 etc…
I guess it’s different now lol.
If your Vizio can play wirelessly at full resolution, lag-free with 35ms latency then sure, yep.
I’m not following. Who makes a product and compares it to a competitors previous version and thinks it’s a selling point?
To paraphrase Zuck:
“Alright guys. I usually lie, but honestly I know I’m going to piss off a lot of Meta fanboys when I say the Vision Pro screen is higher resolution and it’s eye tracking is really nice, our device can’t do that. We have two apps (Xbox & YouTube) that aren’t on Vision Pro yet but will be soon, but the Xbox and PS5 controllers already work with the Vision Pro. I really hope developers want to work with Meta’s "open" model that ensures ZERO privacy because I've lost $46.5 billion on this gamble and I continue to look like a frigging idiot. Like the 2016 election, please ignore the absolute crapstorm that Facebook will enable during 2024. You’ve been warned.”
“Alright guys. I usually lie, but honestly I know I’m going to piss off a lot of Meta fanboys when I say the Vision Pro screen is higher resolution and it’s eye tracking is really nice, our device can’t do that. We have two apps (Xbox & YouTube) that aren’t on Vision Pro yet but will be soon, but the Xbox and PS5 controllers already work with the Vision Pro. I really hope developers want to work with Meta’s "open" model that ensures ZERO privacy because I've lost $46.5 billion on this gamble and I continue to look like a frigging idiot. Like the 2016 election, please ignore the absolute crapstorm that Facebook will enable during 2024. You’ve been warned.”
Apple TV+ has come to other manufacturer's hardware because Apple knows how small its market is without the others' market share. Samsung's platform is terrible but they sell a lot of TVs. Nothing to do with quality, it's pure money (which is par for the course with Tim Apple).