Mid-2012 MBP Retina - obsolete?

[708692]

Bloke in work has got back to me - he says his fans are the same.
Sample of 2 isn't definitive but it's looking like its just the way the 2015 is.

 

[sgadher]

That is VERY rare. They must not have 2015s with UK keyboards which is why you got a new one.

likewise i also received a 2017 with uk keyboard

 

[Freida]

likewise i also received a 2017 with uk keyboard

Which Apple store?
[doublepost=1500733902][/doublepost]Btw, mine is between 80-83% on under 250 cycles. What are my chances?

 

[Milsy68]

likewise i also received a 2017 with uk keyboard

I also had a UK Keyboard and received a new 2017 model

 

[Freida]

I also had a UK Keyboard and received a new 2017 model

which store, please?

 

[Milsy68]

which store, please?

Manchester Arndale

 

[nperei]

Wow what a stories here. Kind of hard to believe it. You guys are really lucky. I still have rMBP 2012 since day they were out. But I replaced battery last year sept 2016 Oh well Other thing i notice my rMBP have frozen then reboot few times every year believe it was dgpu cause this issue.

 

[pposthoorn]

I've gone over that quite a bit. When I got the laptop, I just set it up as is, no migration assistant, no time machine restore. The only I did was install Xcode and connect my iCloud account.

But, the main scenarios are this:

- immediately after login, fans go crazy. They're fine on boot up, but after I type my password it sounds like a hurricane even though there are no programs open

- I had to do a screenshare for a work demo yesterday. On my 2012, I did this all the time, fans were silent. On the 2015 - the people on the other side literally asked me "what's that noise"?

- Xcode - very, very small Xcode builds, fans again sound like jet engine taking off.

- FaceTime - loud fans

- full screen video in safari - loud fans

If you ever had an on black or white MacBook , that's plenty much the user experience

Contact Apple, this doesn't look like normal behaviour to me.

 

[Moriarty]

@macman01101 : it may be worth taking the 2015 back to the store and complaining that the fan noise is much worse than the old model.

I'm really impressed with the thermals of my base 2017 model. The fans on my 2012 were quite easy to provoke and it always ran with high idle temperatures. The 2017 runs much cooler and more quietly.

If you're lucky, they might give you a 2016 / 2017 model. Or even just downgrading to the 2015 they still sell (with iGPU) will probably run a good bit cooler than your "new" 2015.

 

[macman01101]

@macman01101 : it may be worth taking the 2015 back to the store and complaining that the fan noise is much worse than the old model.

I'm really impressed with the thermals of my base 2017 model. The fans on my 2012 were quite easy to provoke and it always ran with high idle temperatures. The 2017 runs much cooler and more quietly.

If you're lucky, they might give you a 2016 / 2017 model. Or even just downgrading to the 2015 they still sell (with iGPU) will probably run a good bit cooler than your "new" 2015.

Thanks everyone. I went to Apple/Genius today and they are sending it in for repair. Hopefully that helps. Should have it back mid next week.

 

[sgadher]

Which Apple store?
[doublepost=1500733902][/doublepost]Btw, mine is between 80-83% on under 250 cycles. What are my chances?

Apple store covent garden london

mine was at 81% but would fluctuate up to 87% depending on when it was plugged in and for how long. i had almost 700 cycles. It pays to be nice to the apple genius when you go in, the genius could easily have knocked me back but almost as a favour realised that my battery had not failed but was on the verge of doing so, so he went ahead with ordering a new CRU for me.

as to your chances, go for it, the worst they can do is knock you back.

 

[systemr]

took in a CTO maxed out other than ssd 2012 rMBP 2.7/16/512 and was called to ask if i wanted silver or space grey 2017 TB. i'm not sure if they upgraded the base to 512 or ordered the higher spec one but i'm happy either way. say it will take 1-2 weeks to arrive.

 

[theCraigLaw]

Just got a call back today and got ordered the mid-2015 maxed out model. The guy said he was still waiting on another staff member getting back to him about if they could give me a 2016/17 model but he said to order a 2015 now and if the other staff member got back to him with positive news then they would change it around.

Question - for those who received refurb mid-2015 ones, did you get a new charger with them as well?

 

[TonyK]

My understanding is it is new in box with all accessories. You can also purchase AppleCare with it.

 

[KUKitch]

So I finally got in touch with the admin at my Apple Store and she sent me this email detailing the model they’ve been ordering in for the replacements, though she said it was subject to change... fingers crossed that it doesn’t change!

 

[dosdude1]

Well, I have a disappointing experience to share... Just came across this thread a couple days ago, so I decided to bring my base Mid-2012 15" rMBP to my local Apple Store to see if I could strike the same luck as almost everybody else in this thread. Unfortunately, my experience was not what I expected. My machine has a battery that dies before it even gets down to 20%, and has 80-82% capacity (according to Coconut Battery). Brought the machine in, and they ran ASD on it. Battery apparently passed, but they never checked the capacity or anything. Then for some reason they ran the video system test, which it of course passed. Then, they said they'd replace the battery anyways for $200. I agreed, and the guy looked around on his iPad for a few minutes, then told me the part wasn't in stock, which I expected. Then, he just told me to come back in September when the part was back in stock, and that was it. Didn't even mention a free replacement, nor getting a new machine. Maybe it was just he guy I got? Regardless, I'm going to go in again in a week or so and see if I get some better luck.

 

[rmcnelly]

Well, I have a disappointing experience to share... Just came across this thread a couple days ago, so I decided to bring my base Mid-2012 15" rMBP to my local Apple Store to see if I could strike the same luck as almost everybody else in this thread. Unfortunately, my experience was not what I expected. My machine has a battery that dies before it even gets down to 20%, and has 80-82% capacity (according to Coconut Battery). Brought the machine in, and they ran ASD on it. Battery apparently passed, but they never checked the capacity or anything. Then for some reason they ran the video system test, which it of course passed. Then, they said they'd replace the battery anyways for $200. I agreed, and the guy looked around on his iPad for a few minutes, then told me the part wasn't in stock, which I expected. Then, he just told me to come back in September when the part was back in stock, and that was it. Didn't even mention a free replacement, nor getting a new machine. Maybe it was just he guy I got? Regardless, I'm going to go in again in a week or so and see if I get some better luck.

Was the battery fully charged when you brought it in? If so, next time bring t in with a partial charge, 40% or so, and see what happens.

 

[dosdude1]

Was the battery fully charged when you brought it in? If so, next time bring t in with a partial charge, 40% or so, and see what happens.

I brought it in at 26% charge...

 

[rmcnelly]

I brought it in at 26% charge...

Wow, I'm surprised it passed!

 

[KUKitch]

Well, I have a disappointing experience to share... Just came across this thread a couple days ago, so I decided to bring my base Mid-2012 15" rMBP to my local Apple Store to see if I could strike the same luck as almost everybody else in this thread. Unfortunately, my experience was not what I expected. My machine has a battery that dies before it even gets down to 20%, and has 80-82% capacity (according to Coconut Battery). Brought the machine in, and they ran ASD on it. Battery apparently passed, but they never checked the capacity or anything. Then for some reason they ran the video system test, which it of course passed. Then, they said they'd replace the battery anyways for $200. I agreed, and the guy looked around on his iPad for a few minutes, then told me the part wasn't in stock, which I expected. Then, he just told me to come back in September when the part was back in stock, and that was it. Didn't even mention a free replacement, nor getting a new machine. Maybe it was just he guy I got? Regardless, I'm going to go in again in a week or so and see if I get some better luck.

Yeah definitely go in again (and hopefully get somebody different) or another store if that’s an option? Also, that was the only option he provided me as well and I asked if there were any other options and he went to talk to a manager... but good luck on that!

 

[pposthoorn]

Well, I have a disappointing experience to share... Just came across this thread a couple days ago, so I decided to bring my base Mid-2012 15" rMBP to my local Apple Store to see if I could strike the same luck as almost everybody else in this thread. Unfortunately, my experience was not what I expected. My machine has a battery that dies before it even gets down to 20%, and has 80-82% capacity (according to Coconut Battery). Brought the machine in, and they ran ASD on it. Battery apparently passed, but they never checked the capacity or anything. Then for some reason they ran the video system test, which it of course passed. Then, they said they'd replace the battery anyways for $200. I agreed, and the guy looked around on his iPad for a few minutes, then told me the part wasn't in stock, which I expected. Then, he just told me to come back in September when the part was back in stock, and that was it. Didn't even mention a free replacement, nor getting a new machine. Maybe it was just he guy I got? Regardless, I'm going to go in again in a week or so and see if I get some better luck.

If they say the same next time, tell them that waiting till September is not an option for you and ask if there's anything they can do.

 

[streetskooler]

Just wanted to share my experience. I had scheduled a battery repair appointment on my mid 2012 rMPB and while I was waiting to go stumbled upon this thread! Anyway my machine meets all the criteria (76% health and 550 cycles) and the genius that I worked with verified the battery as bad. He then told me that they could fix it within 3-5 days. I was shocked so I told him I read on the internet the replacement parts are constrained so he went back and checked. Sure enough he came back and told me parts were on back order until November but they could give me a replacement unit for $199, which he told me was a no brainer. So I agreed and left. On the way home they called me and setup billing info and said they were putting in for a 2015 unit for next week arrival, but might have trouble because mine was a CTO (2.7, 16, 512). I asked if they could bump me to a 2017 and he said he had absolutely no control on what was actually delivered but the process to put for a replacement was to request for a 2015. Anyway I'm excited about getting a new machine although I'd really much prefer the 2016/2017. Truth be told I almost bought a 2017 when they came out but couldn't justify the price especially when my 2012 was still working great(except the battery). Anyway I'll post when I get he replacement. Just wanted to thanks to the guys who posted previously so I knew what to ask when I showed up for my appointment.

 

[nperei]

maybe they might not have more battery in September. 2012 rMBP is already 5 year old. if i remember correct they don't keep parts for older that more 5 years

 

[vysyus]

I posted in this thread before, "ordered" a battery replacement for a failed battery last Wednesday through an AASP shop. I tried calling today and asked when the battery will be delivered, but they simply said they don't know and there's no way for them to check.

I actually really need a new battery before August, I now get random shutdowns at random charge levels. Replacement MacBook would be just a super awesome bonus.

What do you reckon I should do? Anyone had something similar happen?

 

[bigboi6969]

why must the cycle count be under 1000? that doesn't seem right. I should still have the ability of having my battery serviced.