Mission Control - Still A Failure

[Sdreed91]

the problem is you guys think your opinions are more valid than the low adoption rate of lion, the unprecedented numbers of people downgrading from it, or installing sl clean on new lion macs, the unprecedented number of negative journalistic reports, or complain threads here and elsewhere from apple's user base. Yet it seems some of you have taken it upon you to convince us that we should like it. Without bothering to ask yourself, wait a second, if so many people do not like lion, if so many people are downgrading from it, is there a chance perhaps that they might be right and have valid reasons to complain and my opinion and arguing against their requests and requirements amount to s*** at the end of the day.

Apple should provide customization options for mission control as well as for a series of modifications and additions to lion that people simply do not want to use and consider hindering their workflows.

To see that you are so worked up over my opinion just shows me that I am talking to a brick wall. Never once did I say that you should love lion. Never once did I say that you should use mission control. Never once did I say Apple makes the greatest products in the world. I said multiple times however, that I did not wish to get into an argument over my preference of computing versus yours. So at the end of the day I don't give a **** about what you think of me or how I use the products that I choose to purchase without having someone hold a gun to my head. I'm sorry you got so worked up over this. I'm sorry that people don't like what Apple is pushing. It may not be good but ya know what I'm sure you can pick up a great Windows Machine at your local electronics store since Apples products are so crappy and draw some many complaints from the experts of the universes here on Macrumors. I'm also sorry that it is a crime for those of use that don't mind using mission control to have a different opinion.

I'm glad this whole thing was blown way out of proportion.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

Steve's last couple of years were focused on fighting for his life, a long hard fight, getting liver transplants, recovering from operations, etc. etc. Of course he was aware of several planned changes in lion, but his focus was on much more things, the ipad and its launch, the iphone, ios, icloud, itunes, books for itunes, music and tv deals, his tv conception, forward looking patents and ideas, the product pipeline, the campus, his legacy, apple's legacy, etc. He didn't have the executive control of os x. Someone run by him mission control as a general idea and then they executed it poorly. Someone run versions by him and then they executed it poorly. Don't kid yourself that a person in the last couple of years of his life, under so much biological stress and with several priorites ahead of os x could have bothered to focus on the details of os x or exercise executive control and be his usual demanding and excelling managing self over a team that anyway would soon have to do without him. Mission control is apple without Steve and it's evidenced by how crap it is.

And mountain lion is apple a few months down the line without Steve. Who would have thought a few years ago when we were waiting for zfs say that a few years down the line the world's most advanced os would be promoted based on a reminders and notes app, twitter, and growl notifications...

considering steve was well enough to present Lion at the "Back to Mac" event... yeah I'd say he had pretty considerable input about whether or not it could have released.

You really think he didn't try out MC before it launched? You think he couldn't have said, NOPE, go back to Expose? I mean come on man. He left apple with plans for 5 years after his death, I'm sure he had pretty considerable input on products released while he was still alive!

People just try to blame everything they hate that apple does as "Tim's fault, because Steve would never have done that" Get real.

the problem is you guys think your opinions are more valid than the low adoption rate of lion, the unprecedented numbers of people downgrading from it, or installing sl clean on new lion macs, the unprecedented number of negative journalistic reports, or complain threads here and elsewhere from apple's user base.

No, the problem is that you don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._7_lion_hit_6m_80_more_than_snow_leopard.html

That article was written in October 2011, less than 4 months after the release of Lion.

6 million copies sold, 80% more than any previous version of OS X during the same time period. And 10% of mac customers had installed Lion within two weeks.

So maybe your "unprecedented complaints" are more due to the UNPRECEDENTED SALES. The more customers you have, the more complainers there are going to be.

You continue to think that everyone else feels the way you do about Lion and MC, when in fact, the vast majority DO NOT... the unprecedented sales of OS X Lion and new Macs with Lion installed prove that. If people hated Lion that much, they would probably not be buying new Apple computers in record numbers....

 

[Sdreed91]

considering steve was well enough to present Lion at the "Back to Mac" event... yeah I'd say he had pretty considerable input about whether or not it could have released.

You really think he didn't try out MC before it launched? You think he couldn't have said, NOPE, go back to Expose? I mean come on man. He left apple with plans for 5 years after his death, I'm sure he had pretty considerable input on products released while he was still alive!

People just try to blame everything they hate that apple does as "Tim's fault, because Steve would never have done that" Get real.



No, the problem is that you don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._7_lion_hit_6m_80_more_than_snow_leopard.html

That article was written in October 2011, less than 4 months after the release of Lion.

6 million copies sold, 80% more than any previous version of OS X during the same time period. And 10% of mac customers had installed Lion within two weeks.

So maybe your "unprecedented complaints" are more due to the UNPRECEDENTED SALES. The more customers you have, the more complainers there are going to be.

You continue to think that everyone else feels the way you do about Lion and MC, when in fact, the vast majority DO NOT... the unprecedented sales of OS X Lion and new Macs with Lion installed prove that. If people hated Lion that much, they would probably not be buying new Apple computers in record numbers....

Thank you

 

[blow45]

Why don't you kids go play elsewhere? Plenty of apps to buy with dad's credit card. I' ve pretty much had it with you. If you don't get something, you don't. Things fly over you heads what can we do. No one's blaming your toys here, you can still enjoy them.

You are quoting the arch apple propagandist appleinsider from October huh? Ok how about an independent report from analytics company a month later. Lion despite the huge incentive of icloud where users are able to sync their ios devices that apple very dishonestly has withheld from sl in an unprecedented move that obsoletes the last os in terms of cloud services - even the same people who were paying them their hard earned cash for mobile me, despite the ease of download via the app store with no need to go to a physical store, despite the price for a new os x release (and not an under the hood service pack one like sl) being a record low, despite record sales of new macs with lion pre-installed during the period, still had 4 times less the user base than snow leopard, and it had barely hit 2/3 of leopard? You know why that is? Cause people tell it's other, don't install it, it's crap, it will confuse you, it's messes up so much of a functional ui, it's buggy and it's slow and despite fixing some security issues it's bringing nothing much to the table. That's what I say, and most everyone I know does too. It still hasn't migrated to a better file system, it's still hasn't fixed accessibility issues of os with some way to scale up fonts for seniors who suffer through unbearably small menu item font such as the ones apparent in safari, it has messed up usability with monochromatic ui elements, it's messed up expose into the mess that is mission control and it's has inexplicably turned mac looking apps such as calendar and contacts into ipad looking apps that have less information and functionality and are not suited for os x but for a device such as the ipad, it's messed up smb shares so people cannot access ubiquitous windows networks without some problem or other, mail can get to 1.5gb memory because of memory leaks and safari reloads tabs...

Yeah Lion has been a resounding success...

Do you think apple marketing would have pre released mountain lion, unlike ANY previous os x release, to a couple of known apologists who s... their pants when apple calls them up, if they knew they had a great product to show in a keynote and they didn't want to pre-empt the oncoming critical wave since lion?

But who am I trying to put forth rational arguments to? Kids that apple is some sort of quasi deity to them...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221827/How_is_Mac_OS_X_Lion_doing_

November 15, 2011 06:42 AM ET20 Comments
Computerworld - Adoption of Mac OS X 10.7, also known as Lion, has stalled, according to statistics from online ad analytics company Chitika.

"Lion's adoption rate has been less than stellar, to say the least," Chitika reported in a blog post Friday, citing data that showed Lion was only the third-most-popular of all Mac editions with a 16% share, behind both OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) with 56% and 10.5 (Leopard), with 22%.

Chitika claimed that Lion's adoption rate dramatically slowed during September and October, with increases in those months of just one-fourth that of August.

Apple, however, has touted Lion's success several times since its July launch, saying in early October, for instance, that the new operating system had sold 6 million units, nearly double the number of copies sold of Snow Leopard during a similar period in 2009.

 

[Sdreed91]

Frankly your very aggressive tone has made you look childish. Grow up.

Secondly I can buy apps with my own money much like I have bought all of my "toys" and computers. Just because an OS works for me and not you does not mean that I am a child living off of my parents.

Thirdly what's your point? If you are that unhappy with Apples features or lack there of proper functioning features go buy a Windows machine and see how green the grass is on the other side. The only thing flying over my head is all of your BS. We get it you don't like Lion or Mountain Lion. Stop whining about how much you hate it. You have made your point. We have said that Lion works for us. But because we said that we Enjoy Lion we are automatically cast aside as foolish children.

Go cry elsewhere.

 

[blow45]

Ok, enjoy it, but when you come here you should try engaging in arguments like adults. I've made my point, but it seems I keep getting retorts from you guys that hardly make any sense with non existent evidence. My tone wasn't aggressive, it was condescending but that was warranted, and it's what happens when people who think have a clue but don't, tell you you don't know what you are talking about.

Am not going to be engaged in a false dichotomy either like it or buy windows (btw a lot of my friends and family ARE going to be buying windows at my suggestion and they are going to be buying googles desktop os soon too). Apple isn't some kind of fascist regime imposing it's bs ui modifications on users, or some fantasy impeccable father figure -but it might be to some of you guys here- it's an electronics manufacturer who has to produce good software products that enable their users work flow. If their products are not good, if they are in many ways even a step back to their previous offerings, if they insist on not providing options to their users thinking they own the holy grail of ui design and they can do no wrong despite screwing up in so many ways, people will criticize them, leave them feedback demand that they improve them, despite hoards of kool aid kids coming to their aid. I don't know what makes apple exempt from criticism unlike any other company on the globe.

And frankly I don't know what's it with you guys that need to come here and defend them for no reason and piss people such as myself off who suffer from the daily annoyances of lion just because apple in their infinite wisdom decided to blackmail me into upgrading by withholding a service such as mobileme (now icloud) that I'd been paying for for so long. Are they your family and friends? Do they put food on your table? What's with that need you feel to stand up for multi million dollar making executives and programmers?

 

[Sdreed91]

I have no idea how you might receive this. But here goes, I do not wish to worship Apple I am a supporter of there design approach and tight integration of software and hardware. I completely agree a hindrance of workflow not only creates bottlenecks but also headaches. They do not put food on my table nor are they family. I just happen to like there style. That does not make me an idiot or a child. Perhaps you feel your condescending tone was warranted but I do not. Making great software is what they should strive for and usually do. Apple is not gods gift to earth. MC works for some and not others, and if we can agree on that I'll offer an apology for this unnecessary arguement. These forums are a great place for information and objective discussion. And with that I tried to end this arguement. I hope you can accept that. You seem very knowledgeable and despite what you think I can offer a good discussion as well. I hope this clears it up. But if not all I can say is I tried.

 

[klaxamazoo]

Steve's last couple of years were focused on fighting for his life, a long hard fight, getting liver transplants, recovering from operations, etc. etc. Of course he was aware of several planned changes in lion, but his focus was on much more things, the ipad and its launch, the iphone, ios, icloud, itunes, books for itunes, music and tv deals, his tv conception, forward looking patents and ideas, the product pipeline, the campus, his legacy, apple's legacy, etc. He didn't have the executive control of os x. Someone run by him mission control as a general idea and then they executed it poorly. Someone run versions by him and then they executed it poorly. Don't kid yourself that a person in the last couple of years of his life, under so much biological stress and with several priorites ahead of os x could have bothered to focus on the details of os x or exercise executive control and be his usual demanding and excelling managing self over a team that anyway would soon have to do without him. Mission control is apple without Steve and it's evidenced by how crap it is.

And mountain lion is apple a few months down the line without Steve. Who would have thought a few years ago when we were waiting for zfs say that a few years down the line the world's most advanced os would be promoted based on a reminders and notes app, twitter, and growl notifications...

I agree. Lion's lack of polish and the Steve Jobs biography make it pretty clear that Steve was focused on larger things. Mission Control could have been a great revolution instead of a being half-assed like it is. So now, instead of being great for all the users, it is only good for some. I used to always be amazed by OSX because, whenever I wondered if something was possible, I found out it was. There was always a seemed to be six ways to do something and the OS conformed to my needs instead of the other way around.

Most things are possible in Lion, but they take more work for me to accomplish. While that is fine for a lot of people, it isn't for me. It is like driving a car with tires that are always under-inflated. Sure, it will get me from A to B just fine under most circumstances, but it is costing me extra gas and that is annoying.

I just spent the last 4 days working at home on SL and it was wonderful. Now I'm back in the lab on Lion and it is frustrating to deal with unpolished software. At least my thesis is almost done so I'll sell my Macbook Air and no longer be annoyed about spending $1,700 on a computer that I don't like using.

 

[blow45]

amen brother.

People fail to understand there's a fine line between good and great software, and that this extra polish, this extra work to make something great is very hard indeed and requires talent and vision and someone at the helm with a very keen eye on not so much what functionality to add, but on how to optimally implement it, and above all what NOT to add, and what direction NOT to take. In os design there's also the issue of what options the user should and shouldn't have. Far too many options (and unnecessary ones) make for confusion and bloatware, the just right number of options provide the required flexibility and customizability.

Cases in point: Grouping of windows in mission control. This is not such an insanely good idea, that the user shouldn't have an option to be able to see them ungrouped. For a lot of people it's not a good idea at all. Someone though at os x design feels they have come up with something so great and their ego won't let them backtrack and offer the user said option.

Another case: Monochromatic sidebars. Someone at apple has gotten in their heads some moronic slogan "it's all about content" and thinks that this is a big selling/branding point of os x. No bells are ringing that if such a vast number of their user base says give us an option to not have monochromatic side bars, it means that they are facing a real usability issue with telling greyed up icons apart. They think that somehow people will buy apple and os x because of said "brilliant" user interface that somehow reminds them of os x (again the marketing making decisions and not the talent).

Why should grey sidebars become os x's identity and selling point? OS X has so many advantages to it, it's about no antivirus, it's about unix and the terminal, it's about applescript, it's about no defragmenting, it's about xcode, it's about such nice features as the keychain, colour coding items, spotlight search, finder preview, customizable system preference panes, just off the top of my head...It certainly isn't about grey sidebars and if people don't like them for very apparent ui reasons they should be able to, all the more so when apple's human interface guidelines explicitly state that using colour as a cue is important.

They used to allow customizable images of folders (they still do) that would retain their image when placed on the finder sidebar. Now every folder when placed on the sidebar despite any customization of how it looks when seen in the finder or on the desktop, suddenly reverts to the same grey generic folder look. How are people going to quickly tell apart 10-20 user folders they have placed on the sidebar when they all look the same? By reading the whole list instead of instantaneously going for the color and image cue?

All these decisions are baffling in their stupidity. I am all for not giving the user more options than necessary but just enough. I am all for when you come up with a great idea to implement it and have the user learn a right way of doing things that in the longer run is going to be universally more effective, instead of allowing them to fall back on the wrong habits, but taking away choice when your idea is not all that good to begin with?

 

[roadbloc]

Steve's last couple of years were focused on fighting for his life, a long hard fight, getting liver transplants, recovering from operations, etc. etc. Of course he was aware of several planned changes in lion, but his focus was on much more things, the ipad and its launch, the iphone, ios, icloud, itunes, books for itunes, music and tv deals, his tv conception, forward looking patents and ideas, the product pipeline, the campus, his legacy, apple's legacy, etc. He didn't have the executive control of os x. Someone run by him mission control as a general idea and then they executed it poorly. Someone run versions by him and then they executed it poorly. Don't kid yourself that a person in the last couple of years of his life, under so much biological stress and with several priorites ahead of os x could have bothered to focus on the details of os x or exercise executive control and be his usual demanding and excelling managing self over a team that anyway would soon have to do without him. Mission control is apple without Steve and it's evidenced by how crap it is.

And mountain lion is apple a few months down the line without Steve. Who would have thought a few years ago when we were waiting for zfs say that a few years down the line the world's most advanced os would be promoted based on a reminders and notes app, twitter, and growl notifications...

Boom. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

 

[ssn637]

I wonder what the adoption rate to Lion would have been if Apple had released 10.6.9 with its iCloud functionality and MacBook 2011 compatibility?

 

[lordthistle]

No, the problem is that you don't know what you are talking about.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article..._7_lion_hit_6m_80_more_than_snow_leopard.html

That article was written in October 2011, less than 4 months after the release of Lion.

I am among those who bought OS X Lion in the first weeks after its official release. I have been a very unhappy Lion user till yesterday, when I installed Snow Leopard back. What a pleasure.

Frankly, besides living with far less bugs (I filed more bug reports with Lion than with Leopard + Snow Leopard), I really appreciate having again Exposé and Spaces. May be it would be very difficult to introduce Exposé + Spaces with full screen applications, but Mission Control is really worthless when you are forced to work with many windows and in a double monitor set-up.

 

[blow45]

I am among those who bought OS X Lion in the first weeks after its official release. I have been a very unhappy Lion user till yesterday, when I installed Snow Leopard back. What a pleasure.

Frankly, besides living with far less bugs (I filed more bug reports with Lion than with Leopard + Snow Leopard), I really appreciate having again Exposé and Spaces. May be it would be very difficult to introduce Exposé + Spaces with full screen applications, but Mission Control is really worthless when you are forced to work with many windows and in a double monitor set-up.

No you really did like lion and those bug reports are imagined that's the mode of posting by some in this thread.

 

[radiogoober]

amen brother.

People fail to understand there's a fine line between good and great software, and that this extra polish, this extra work to make something great is very hard indeed and requires talent and vision and someone at the helm with a very keen eye on not so much what functionality to add, but on how to optimally implement it, and above all what NOT to add, and what direction NOT to take. In os design there's also the issue of what options the user should and shouldn't have. Far too many options (and unnecessary ones) make for confusion and bloatware, the just right number of options provide the required flexibility and customizability.

Cases in point: Grouping of windows in mission control. This is not such an insanely good idea, that the user shouldn't have an option to be able to see them ungrouped. For a lot of people it's not a good idea at all. Someone though at os x design feels they have come up with something so great and their ego won't let them backtrack and offer the user said option.

Another case: Monochromatic sidebars. Someone at apple has gotten in their heads some moronic slogan "it's all about content" and thinks that this is a big selling/branding point of os x. No bells are ringing that if such a vast number of their user base says give us an option to not have monochromatic side bars, it means that they are facing a real usability issue with telling greyed up icons apart. They think that somehow people will buy apple and os x because of said "brilliant" user interface that somehow reminds them of os x (again the marketing making decisions and not the talent).

Why should grey sidebars become os x's identity and selling point? OS X has so many advantages to it, it's about no antivirus, it's about unix and the terminal, it's about applescript, it's about no defragmenting, it's about xcode, it's about such nice features as the keychain, colour coding items, spotlight search, finder preview, customizable system preference panes, just off the top of my head...It certainly isn't about grey sidebars and if people don't like them for very apparent ui reasons they should be able to, all the more so when apple's human interface guidelines explicitly state that using colour as a cue is important.

They used to allow customizable images of folders (they still do) that would retain their image when placed on the finder sidebar. Now every folder when placed on the sidebar despite any customization of how it looks when seen in the finder or on the desktop, suddenly reverts to the same grey generic folder look. How are people going to quickly tell apart 10-20 user folders they have placed on the sidebar when they all look the same? By reading the whole list instead of instantaneously going for the color and image cue?

All these decisions are baffling in their stupidity. I am all for not giving the user more options than necessary but just enough. I am all for when you come up with a great idea to implement it and have the user learn a right way of doing things that in the longer run is going to be universally more effective, instead of allowing them to fall back on the wrong habits, but taking away choice when your idea is not all that good to begin with?

Meh. To me it's extraordinarily obnoxious of you to state that a design decision is "baffling in ... stupidity" just because *you* don't like it. Probably the single greatest thing that Apple does is *not* listen to its users because it would be impossible to please every single person, each having their own opinions.

 

[blow45]

Meh. To me it's extraordinarily obnoxious of you to state that a design decision is "baffling in ... stupidity" just because *you* don't like it. Probably the single greatest thing that Apple does is *not* listen to its users because it would be impossible to please every single person, each having their own opinions.

It's not because I don't like it, it's because a large proportion of apple's user base don't like it and are up in arms about it, it's also because eg. colour cues are an important part of user computer interaction in every design manual including apple's own human interface guidelines (until the last time I checked them), and because substituting what once could be an easily discernible customized image of a folder in the sidebar to a generic monochrome folder in the sidebar and forcing the user to read through their sometimes 10-20+ sidebar folders instead, is, indeed, quite baffling in its stupidity. And don't worry apple listen to users all the time when they eff up such as when they had to bring back optional matte on most of the macbook pros or when they had to restore the option of the ipad mute button to be the orientation lock button. Some people in the dev team don't like to admit that they made the wrong choices so they usually avoid changing something that they didn't implement well to begin with...

 

[hafr]

Why don't you kids go play elsewhere? Plenty of apps to buy with dad's credit card. I' ve pretty much had it with you. If you don't get something, you don't. Things fly over you heads what can we do. No one's blaming your toys here, you can still enjoy them.

You are quoting the arch apple propagandist appleinsider from October huh? Ok how about an independent report from analytics company a month later. Lion despite the huge incentive of icloud where users are able to sync their ios devices that apple very dishonestly has withheld from sl in an unprecedented move that obsoletes the last os in terms of cloud services - even the same people who were paying them their hard earned cash for mobile me, despite the ease of download via the app store with no need to go to a physical store, despite the price for a new os x release (and not an under the hood service pack one like sl) being a record low, despite record sales of new macs with lion pre-installed during the period, still had 4 times less the user base than snow leopard, and it had barely hit 2/3 of leopard? You know why that is? Cause people tell it's other, don't install it, it's crap, it will confuse you, it's messes up so much of a functional ui, it's buggy and it's slow and despite fixing some security issues it's bringing nothing much to the table. That's what I say, and most everyone I know does too. It still hasn't migrated to a better file system, it's still hasn't fixed accessibility issues of os with some way to scale up fonts for seniors who suffer through unbearably small menu item font such as the ones apparent in safari, it has messed up usability with monochromatic ui elements, it's messed up expose into the mess that is mission control and it's has inexplicably turned mac looking apps such as calendar and contacts into ipad looking apps that have less information and functionality and are not suited for os x but for a device such as the ipad, it's messed up smb shares so people cannot access ubiquitous windows networks without some problem or other, mail can get to 1.5gb memory because of memory leaks and safari reloads tabs...

Yeah Lion has been a resounding success...

Do you think apple marketing would have pre released mountain lion, unlike ANY previous os x release, to a couple of known apologists who s... their pants when apple calls them up, if they knew they had a great product to show in a keynote and they didn't want to pre-empt the oncoming critical wave since lion?

But who am I trying to put forth rational arguments to? Kids that apple is some sort of quasi deity to them...

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221827/How_is_Mac_OS_X_Lion_doing_

This was posted April 1, I'm guessing it's a joke.

 

[radiogoober]

It's not because I don't like it, it's because a large proportion of apple's user base don't like it and are up in arms about it, it's also because eg. colour cues are an important part of user computer interaction in every design manual including apple's own human interface guidelines (until the last time I checked them), and because substituting what once could be an easily discernible customized image of a folder in the sidebar to a generic monochrome folder in the sidebar and forcing the user to read through their sometimes 10-20+ sidebar folders instead, is, indeed, quite baffling in its stupidity. And don't worry apple listen to users all the time when they eff up such as when they had to bring back optional matte on most of the macbook pros or when they had to restore the option of the ipad mute button to be the orientation lock button. Some people in the dev team don't like to admit that they made the wrong choices so they usually avoid changing something that they didn't implement well to begin with...

I love that a few bored dorks on the internet is credited as "a large proportion of apple's user base don't like it and are up in arms about it." I just looked outside and I didn't see any protestors or rioters or looters shouting about monochromatic folders. The truth is the vast majority of people don't give a crap. The few who do just cry about it on an Apple web forum. My wife loves her Mac, but would never know when a new version of OS X is out, or that new versions even get released. I put Lion on her computer and she didn't even notice a difference.

 

[MythicFrost]

I believe the spaces at the top should up off screen and have those page dots like in iOS to show which space you're on, and when you move your mouse up to the very top of the screen the spaces drop down. I'd like a similar thing but with minimised windows at the bottom of the screen, and I want the dock to disappear.

That, along with better layout for the windows being displayed. Try opening six different Safari windows, just as an example, and then use Mission Control. They're all too close together to find the one you want comfortably, and even when scrolling up with the mouse to pan them out, it's still too difficult to find what you want.

Now, I quite like Mission Control, but I'm wanting some improvements.

 

[blow45]

This was posted April 1, I'm guessing it's a joke.

Sadly, lion wasn't released on April 1st as well.

I love that a few bored dorks on the internet is credited as "a large proportion of apple's user base don't like it and are up in arms about it." I just looked outside and I didn't see any protestors or rioters or looters shouting about monochromatic folders. The truth is the vast majority of people don't give a crap. The few who do just cry about it on an Apple web forum. My wife loves her Mac, but would never know when a new version of Mac is out, or that new versions even get released. I put Lion on her computer and she didn't even notice a difference.

So this dork, me, once had a (replica of a) Matisse opposite a brick wall in my flat, I took it down when I was moving, and the brick wall opposite it hardly noticed a difference.

 

[chrono1081]

Mission Control doesn't bother me one bit and I'm a multitasking mo-fo.

I do personally like space better for some things, but Mission Control has its merits, like seeing each document a certain application has open all at once.

Thankfully I don't suck at computers and can adapt to anything thrown at me and still get my work done.

 

[Jagardn]

Boom. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have a winner!

Boom. Someone proved a point that is purely opinion to a bunch of random people on the internet.
Don't really think anyone is a winner here.

 

[radiogoober]

So this dork, me, once had a (replica of a) Matisse opposite a brick wall in my flat, I took it down when I was moving, and the brick wall opposite it hardly noticed a difference.

Haha It's just about obsessing over pointless crap. We all do it over things that shouldn't warrant a second thought.

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Boom. Someone proved a point that is purely opinion to a bunch of random people on the internet.
Don't really think anyone is a winner here.

If anything, we're all losers for reading this thread!

 

[blow45]

Haha It's just about obsessing over pointless crap. We all do it over things that shouldn't warrant a second thought.

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If anything, we're all losers for reading this thread!

points taken.

now apple fix mission control and bring back some damn colour in the sidebar, I can't tell **** apart and I am not getting any younger.

 

[Jasoco]

My two cents:

I like Mission Control, but at the same time I miss Exposé the way it was. Really the ONLY problems I have with it:

The window grouping - I liked having all windows be by themselves. They should still group them but not overlap them so much. Right now it's impossible to pick out a single Finder window when I have a dozen open. Also, scrolling on the app group only spreads them out slightly. If you're going to spread them, put them all over the whole screen so I can make them out!

The old "Hold mouse on the Dock to make App Exposé open" option - WTF? That was a nice feature that was well touted when SL was out. Of course I can just swipe down with 4 fingers, but still. I always forget that exists.

Four-finger swipe down in Fullscreen doesn't do anything - Some apps can have multiple windows open in multiple spaces or sometimes even hidden behind a window that you can't get to without the Window menu. Make it so swiping down in a Fullscreen App shows me ALL the windows in that app including all other fullscreen windows as part of it and all the windows that fell behind the main window.

On the same note, other apps that open in a Fullscreen space but have no Dock icon - They end up getting lost and can't be found unless somehow refocusing them. These should also show up in MC somewhere. Because it's silly.

 

[jameslmoser]

The old "Hold mouse on the Dock to make App Exposé open" option - WTF? That was a nice feature that was well touted when SL was out. Of course I can just swipe down with 4 fingers, but still. I always forget that exists.

Exactly, I can't believe they removed that... now it does NOTHING. What was the point?? It just seems like so much of this was just change for changes sake...