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simonsi

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what should I have done keep my 2010 iMac?which by the way never had issues of this kind.

Yes, run the old and new in parallel for a period until you are happy the new platform is fully operational. That is what securing your business takes. If you behave like a consumer then you place your business at risk.
 

chevalier433

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Yes, run the old and new in parallel for a period until you are happy the new platform is fully operational. That is what securing your business takes. If you behave like a consumer then you place your business at risk.
I guess i wait i have high hopes for the next update 10.10.4 I'm a dreamer :) at least i fix bluetooth issues mouse seems to work as intended but my computer is still a brick — worthless for computing.A slow piece of ****.I have two tabs open in safari,itunes and encode one video with handbrake memory usage:apps 3,5 GB plus 1GB wired :roll eyes:update handbrake crash after one 2gb video encode and another in queue.The fix until the next crash?A ****ing Restart.
 
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simon lefisch

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Avid is a serious company i don't believe ever support this piece of **** os.


While I don't use Pt anymore, I wouldn't necessarily call Yosemite a POS OS. Yea it has bugs, however I have no probs running my audio apps (logic/cubase/ableton). Like @simonsi said, people need to have a procedure when updating the OS. When Yosemite first came out, I waited til .1 was released....and even then I still waited a while before installing it cuz I wanted to see what everyone else's experience was. I made a backup of my previous OS version (Lion), then updated. I made sure it would run fine before making the decision to keep that version on my MBP.

If you rely on your comp as your source of income, whatever it may be (audio/video/etc), then you need to be more weary of what you're getting yourself into as far as stability. Don't update cuz of "cool features" or "I need to be on the cutting edge". If the OS isn't working the way you hoped it would be, then restore back to your previous OS. That's what TM is for.

Now for those who bought new macs that had Yosemite preinstalled, I feel sorry for them since they can't do anything about it. However, assuming those people already had a Mac and decided purchase another, then they should go back and use they're older Mac (assuming it didn't have any probs). Maybe update the HD on the older Mac. My late-2011 MBP runs Yosemite just fine w/ 16GB of RAM....and I don't even have an SSD installed yet.

That being said, just because one user has a bad experience doesn't mean everyone does.
 

chevalier433

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While I don't use Pt anymore, I wouldn't necessarily call Yosemite a POS OS. Yea it has bugs, however I have no probs running my audio apps (logic/cubase/ableton). Like @simonsi said, people need to have a procedure when updating the OS. When Yosemite first came out, I waited til .1 was released....and even then I still waited a while before installing it cuz I wanted to see what everyone else's experience was. I made a backup of my previous OS version (Lion), then updated. I made sure it would run fine before making the decision to keep that version on my MBP.

If you rely on your comp as your source of income, whatever it may be (audio/video/etc), then you need to be more weary of what you're getting yourself into as far as stability. Don't update cuz of "cool features" or "I need to be on the cutting edge". If the OS isn't working the way you hoped it would be, then restore back to your previous OS. That's what TM is for.

Now for those who bought new macs that had Yosemite preinstalled, I feel sorry for them since they can't do anything about it. However, assuming those people already had a Mac and decided purchase another, then they should go back and use they're older Mac (assuming it didn't have any probs). Maybe update the HD on the older Mac. My late-2011 MBP runs Yosemite just fine w/ 16GB of RAM....and I don't even have an SSD installed yet.

That being said, just because one user has a bad experience doesn't mean everyone does.

I am desperate what should i do?Return the computer took with my hard earned money back?Now i can't do that.Revert back to what mavericks?Remember test it with my previous mac and throw it in the **** garbage immediately same with mountain lion and fiasco lion.My only hope after this fiasco is the next update but i don't see any light in this either Steve sadly is dead.In Apple website community well… everyone is up in arms. They are ranting.There is one thread with over 700 posts and over 80,000 views of people trying to help each other out to fix their computers ONLY the first month of release.Also if you do a search for OS X Yosemite is slow, you will get almost one million hits.Rotten apple is mum just change logic boards to calm the upset customers.
 
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MagicBoy

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So what are the actual issues with Yosemite for you? I'm not interesting in opinion or rants, I want proper descriptions of your specific issues that make Yosemite not fit for purpose, rather than the applications you are running in it.

In properly constructed english if possible. Half of what you post is gibberish, I can only guess you are using Bing to translate it from your mother tongue.
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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Most of the people I work with use Mac Pros (all generations) and if they have MBPs these are secondary computers.
So you say to throw my bto macbook (Pro?) 2013 to the garbage and purchase a mac pro and all issues magically will disappear?Sorry i can't afford it i am a recent dad and my camera cost 12.000 euros.By the way people with new mac pro also experience these issues.
 

simonsi

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A slow piece of ****.I have two tabs open in safari,itunes and encode one video with handbrake memory usage:apps 3,5 GB plus 1GB wired

Just for the record, which bits of this are your professional usage?

Safari?
iTunes?
Handbrake video encoding?
Not sure why you are worried about 3.5+1GB memory usage, do you think you are running out?
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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Just for the record, which bits of this are your professional usage?

Safari?
iTunes?
Handbrake video encoding?
Not sure why you are worried about 3.5+1GB memory usage, do you think you are running out?
I just sit the evening to relax enjoy the forums,my music and encode some videos.I have 16gb that's not the point.That was an example of excessive memory resources use running nothing !To be fair importing AVC Intra footage in FCPX and edit is smooth and stable.The program is good.
 
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redheeler

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I just sit the evening to relax enjoy the forums,my music and encode some videos.I have 16gb that's not the point.That was an example excessive resources use running nothing !

Only 4.5 GB used on a Mac with 16 GB? On my MacBook Air with 2 GB, I doubt any virtual memory would be needed at all ;)
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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So what are the actual issues with Yosemite for you? I'm not interesting in opinion or rants, I want proper descriptions of your specific issues that make Yosemite not fit for purpose, rather than the applications you are running in it.

In properly constructed english if possible. Half of what you post is gibberish, I can only guess you are using Bing to translate it from your mother tongue.
I have posted all the issues in my previous post as you already know.My english is not the subject of this thread.In my country when people from uk come from holidays sleeping in the ****** streets dance barefoot on glasses drunk as hell all the time I can only say I am very proud that my primary language is not english but that's a different conversation.
 

simonsi

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Jan 3, 2014
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I just sit the evening to relax enjoy the forums,my music and encode some videos.I have 16gb that's not the point.That was an example of excessive memory resources use running nothing !To be fair importing AVC Intra footage in FCPX and edit is smooth and stable.The program is good.

Look at your Activity Monitor memory tab, if it is green then all is well, modern OS' don't use memory in the same way as they used to, they are likely to keep closed apps in RAM incase you want them again, if they need the space they take it.

So if there are no problems now then I'd suggest when you do have problems, it is down to your usage pattern more than the basic OS...
 

redheeler

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Oct 17, 2014
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I have posted all the issues in my previous post as you already know.My english is not the subject of this thread.In my country when people from uk come from holidays sleeping in the ****** streets dance barefoot on glasses drunk as hell all the time I can only say I am very proud that my primary language is not english but that's a different conversation.

Did you come here just to hate?
 

simon lefisch

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I just sit the evening to relax enjoy the forums,my music and encode some videos.I have 16gb that's not the point.That was an example of excessive memory resources use running nothing !To be fair importing AVC Intra footage in FCPX and edit is smooth and stable.The program is good.


Take in mind that as new features are added to the OS (ie; Continuity), more RAM will be used.
 

F1Mac

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So you say to throw my bto macbook (Pro?) 2013 to the garbage and purchase a mac pro and all issues magically will disappear?Sorry i can't afford it i am a recent dad and my camera cost 12.000 euros.By the way people with new mac pro also experience these issues.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Did you really read my post? I was ONLY saying that my own experience and the people I work with can only apply to certain models!! In other words I don't have a MacBook, Pro or not, so when I see a discussion regarding a Yosemite issue affecting Macbooks, I can't really comment on it, and I can't be of much help because my situation is different. And the people I know who have MacBooks, these are not their main computers as they only use them for web surfing, email and that kind of stuff. Which is why I used the term "secondary computers". And from I heard from them so far, Yosemite is working fine on these machines as well.

THAT is what I was saying.
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Did you really read my post? I was ONLY saying that my own experience and the people I work with can only apply to certain models!! In other words I don't have a MacBook, Pro or not, so when I see a discussion regarding a Yosemite issue affecting Macbooks, I can't really comment on it, and I can't be of much help because my situation is different. And the people I know who have MacBooks, these are not their main computers as they only use them for web surfing, email and that kind of stuff. Which is why I used the term "secondary computers".

THAT is what I was saying.
Now that you specify it ok:) .As for software compatibility with mac computers mine or others never experience app crashes in my situation handbrake after some encodes with high profile crash and need restart .But what really drive me nuts the whole system sluginess.Its the retina screen?I don't care they need to fix asap.

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Take in mind that as new features are added to the OS (ie; Continuity), more RAM will be used.
Dude thats a lot of ram for these apps and os itself.Im really afraid what will happen if i start use any adobe apps.
 

chevalier433

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Mar 30, 2011
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There was no need for that.
Here we have employees from different countries trying to learn the native language i respect their effort and never never insult them.In this thread we have different opinion about yosemite if its well optimised or not we can't argue in that and have a constructive conversation i know my english its not the best but i try.I don't use any translate software by the way only sometimes the dictionary for some words. ...
 

simonsi

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Jan 3, 2014
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Auckland
Dude thats a lot of ram for these apps and os itself.Im really afraid what will happen if i start use any adobe apps.

That ram figure you quoted will include any apps you have run and closed since restart, it isnt just the current apps you have running.
 

redheeler

macrumors G3
Oct 17, 2014
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Dude thats a lot of ram for these apps and os itself.Im really afraid what will happen if i start use any adobe apps.

On 16 GB? That's just silly.

OS X will tend to store more in RAM if a lot of the RAM is free, but it will limit that as it becomes close to being full. That's why my 2 GB MacBook Air can last a while on 2 GB while your Mac with 16 GB goes past 2 GB used immediately on a clean login.

As simonsi mentioned, as long as Memory Pressure in Activity Monitor is green, even if the RAM appears to be full, it's not a problem.
 
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