Moto 360

[mattopotamus]

Thanks for the fashion advice.

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I can't get over the display.. Not sure if it's designers or what but most faces don't look great; grainy and whatnot.

I know you wanted the truth

Black and brown do not usually play well. I would try to find the silver to allow for more flexibility.

 

[HiDEF]

Moto 360

I know you wanted the truth



Black and brown do not usually play well. I would try to find the silver to allow for more flexibility.

Thanks but I'm digging it. It's got a Fall look to it. FYI, Fall is upon us, in case you weren't aware. And if you have any sense of style or fashion, Fall means darker shades.

Anyways, like I mentioned, I'm not sure if I'm digging the the display.

 

[diamond.g]

I have been able to get over 24 hours with the watch, though part of my day includes being in airplane mode. This is also with Ambient mode off. today I am test driving ambient mode on, took off charger @0445 this morning, now 0847 and I have 82% remaining...

And @2052 I received the 20% battery left warning. So 16 hours with Ambient mode on with probably another 4 or so to go before true dead. Note: I did have Airplane mode on for about 8 hours or so, so it is likely the device might have been dead by now. Sadly I work in an area where I cannot leave BT on.

 

[Chodite]

Just received my new brown strap. Had a jeweler install it for $4. Thoughts?

 

[spinedoc77]

Haven't seen a strap yet that doesn't look goofy with the exception of the stock metal strap which has not been released yet. The problem is the Moto 360 is a large phone and really needs a matching beefy strap, at least a wider one. I returned mine, but if nothing else comes out when the metal strap ones are released I'll probably buy one of those again.

 

[diamond.g]

So now that Apple Watch reviews are coming out, what are the thoughts of the folks that still have a Moto360?


The one thing I noticed is the Apple Watch got more of a rundown of how the device changed how the reviewer used their phone. Which is in contrast to the mainly tech review of Android Wear devices thus far.

 

[mrex]

Moto 360

Just received my new brown strap. Had a jeweler install it for $4. Thoughts?



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Wow, looks pretty nice! I only wish it would be a full circle...

 

[epicrayban]

So now that Apple Watch reviews are coming out, what are the thoughts of the folks that still have a Moto360?


The one thing I noticed is the Apple Watch got more of a rundown of how the device changed how the reviewer used their phone. Which is in contrast to the mainly tech review of Android Wear devices thus far.

Expect reviewers to suddenly forgive smartwatch shortcomings for the Apple Watch; whereas they nailed Android Wear devices.

Let's see if they'll knock the Watch for the same level of dependency on a paired smartphone. For lack of GPS. For battery. What else was there? Design maybe? Comfort? Price?

 

[spriter]

Yep, Apple can, do, and will control the narrative far better than any android wear manufacturer has.

Despite me being fairly convinced that after using a Vivosmart for notifications, I don't need much else from a wearable, I've still just picked up a brand new 360 for just over half the original price to give it a go myself.

I'm going to wait to see how Apple Watch buyers feel after 2-3 months down the line.

 

[tbayrgs]

Expect reviewers to suddenly forgive smartwatch shortcomings for the Apple Watch; whereas they nailed Android Wear devices.

Let's see if they'll knock the Watch for the same level of dependency on a paired smartphone. For lack of GPS. For battery. What else was there? Design maybe? Comfort? Price?

I've perused through a handful of Apple Watch reviews today and most (even renowned Apple fanboys) seem to be fairly critical of quite a few aspects--most commonly not enough notification control, not intuitive, a little laggy (when the watch face appears) or just simply a bit slow. Conversely, most also claim it to be the best smart watch available so, not really sure what that says about either the Apple Watch or its Android Wear counterparts---probably that nothing on the market now is really game changing at this point.

 

[nviz22]

So now that Apple Watch reviews are coming out, what are the thoughts of the folks that still have a Moto360?


The one thing I noticed is the Apple Watch got more of a rundown of how the device changed how the reviewer used their phone. Which is in contrast to the mainly tech review of Android Wear devices thus far.

I haven't checked it out in person nor watched a video, but my initial albeit limited impressions are this: Apple's product is really nice looking, but the price is a bit too much. The battery life isn't where it should be, but it's a first gen product. If the iPad taught us anything is that Gen 2 will always be better. Any smartwatch with fitness tracking, notifications, speaker function for answering calls, a heart rate monitor, ability to serve as a multimedia control, and has the ability to use apps is good in my book. My Moto 360 does that but I hardly use it. It was actually a waste of $250, but I plan on making more use of it and hopefully pair it with my iPhone 5C and Note 4 or whatever phone I own. I am leaning towards upgrading to the 6+/6S+ at this point in time, but it depends if I sell my Note 4 first or if I decide to keep it since I use my 5C for now. If not, I'll upgrade to the 6S+ in September.

 

[epicrayban]

I've perused through a handful of Apple Watch reviews today and most (even renowned Apple fanboys) seem to be fairly critical of quite a few aspects--most commonly not enough notification control, not intuitive, a little laggy (when the watch face appears) or just simply a bit slow. Conversely, most also claim it to be the best smart watch available so, not really sure what that says about either the Apple Watch or its Android Wear counterparts---probably that nothing on the market now is really game changing at this point.

I would agree with this. I actually didn't even know Apple Watch reviews were out when I made my post. I've been scanning some myself where time allows throughout the day. Mostly average reviews, but also, as you say, rather favorable too at the same time. I still think there is some bias and favoritism going on. They are still rather forgiving.

For example, where Samsung or other Android Wear OEMs' watches are tied to a Samsung/Android device, that seemed like a huge knock in reviews. The Watch is tied to the iPhone, but that is seen as more of a natural "extension" of the iPhone, and the question is whether one wants that extension or not. When phrased this way, it's not so much a negative, but more of a lifestyle choice of the user.

I'm also not seeing a lot of reviews factoring in the price very much, and leaving it more to the reader as an option; that it's up to them to sort that all out and weigh whether it's worth the price or not. Whereas, if I recall correctly, there were knocks made against Samsung and other Android Wear OEMs for their "expensive" smartwatches. I think the prices of the Watch are pretty insane, especially some of the higher tier ones (not even talking about the Watch Edition!). And to me, it's insane that it's still lacking GPS.

All in all, considering the "decent' reviews, I guess this is as honest as these guys will get when it comes to an Apple review -- say it's better than Android and other competitors, but also admit that people may not need it and it's up to them to decide. That's basically what I've taken away.

I believe the things in this article (The Apple Media Distortion Field: https://medium.com/krautreporter-stories/the-apple-media-distortion-field-644e9e7b8666). Given that, I guess this is the best we'll get.

EDIT: For the record, I don't think any current smartwatch is worth the price. For fitness, I have my Garmin Forerunner 220 that has GPS, AMAZING battery life especially when the GPS is turned off, and is reliable and accurate at tracking my pace, distance, and stats. And 100% waterproof.

 

[tbayrgs]

I would agree with this. I actually didn't even know Apple Watch reviews were out when I made my post. I've been scanning some myself where time allows throughout the day. Mostly average reviews, but also, as you say, rather favorable too at the same time. I still think there is some bias and favoritism going on. They are still rather forgiving.

For example, where Samsung or other Android Wear OEMs' watches are tied to a Samsung/Android device, that seemed like a huge knock in reviews. The Watch is tied to the iPhone, but that is seen as more of a natural "extension" of the iPhone, and the question is whether one wants that extension or not. When phrased this way, it's not so much a negative, but more of a lifestyle choice of the user.

Won't disagree here though I personally alway found this criticism a bit unrealistic. I always looked at wearables as a means to accentuate my other devices (phone) and am not looking for a device to completely replace my smartphone. No matter how great the battery life is, I'm not going to ever be able to replace most of my smartphone functionality with a device the size of a watch, and expecting to do so is simply unrealistic. Maybe the media covering this tech is coming to grips with this as well. Likely not but you never know.

I'm also not seeing a lot of reviews factoring in the price very much, and leaving it more to the reader as an option; that it's up to them to sort that all out and weigh whether it's worth the price or not. Whereas, if I recall correctly, there were knocks made against Samsung and other Android Wear OEMs for their "expensive" smartwatches. I think the prices of the Watch are pretty insane, especially some of the higher tier ones (not even talking about the Watch Edition!). And to me, it's insane that it's still lacking GPS.

I don't think the prices of the aluminum and steel watches themselves are too bad (not even discussing the Edition because that's prices solely for fashion and status)--just about everyone has stated they are very substantial, well made watches--best by far amongst smartwatches so far, and let's face it, it's Apple and their prices were never necessarily 'mainstream.' What I find obscene are the prices of some of the bands--$150-$250 for various leather bands and $450 for a steel link bracelet?!! Come on Apple, now you're being ridiculous.

All in all, considering the "decent' reviews, I guess this is as honest as these guys will get when it comes to an Apple review -- say it's better than Android and other competitors, but also admit that people may not need it and it's up to them to decide. That's basically what I've taken away.

I believe the things in this article (The Apple Media Distortion Field: https://medium.com/krautreporter-stories/the-apple-media-distortion-field-644e9e7b8666). Given that, I guess this is the best we'll get.

 

[bmac4]

I just watched The Verge's review, and find it so funny when he ask the women at Rack.com about whether the Apple Watch is fashionable. All the women said no that it was not a fashionable object. I thought that was the whole reason the Apple watch cost so much. The Apple fans have been screaming at me on here, talking about how much time Apple spent on the Watch and bands, and how that made it so great. They talked about how it would be a fashion statement. What a joke. I will keep my moto 360.

 

[tbayrgs]

I just watched The Verge's review, and find it so funny when he ask the women at Rack.com about whether the Apple Watch is fashionable. All the women said no that it was not a fashionable object. I thought that was the whole reason the Apple watch cost so much. The Apple fans have been screaming at me on here, talking about how much time Apple spent on the Watch and bands, and how that made it so great. They talked about how it would be a fashion statement. What a joke. I will keep my moto 360.

Asking a bunch of 'fashion experts' though isn't exactly a true indicator either. How often do you see the crazy eccentric clothes presented in the fashion shows of fashion week out in public? What's shown as 'this year's fashion' isn't what the general consumer is wearing.

I'd wager that if he had placed all available smartwatches in a row on the table and asked what was most fashionable, the Apple Watch wouldve garnered the most positive response, even if it doesn't scream 'fashion' on its own.

Let's be realistic...if there's aphone that people carry simply because they think it's cool or makes a statement, it's an iPhone. The same will hold for the Apple Watch, regardless of how functional it may be. There will be plenty of people wearing it simply because they think it portrays some level of status.

 

[bmac4]

Asking a bunch of 'fashion experts' though isn't exactly a true indicator either. How often do you see the crazy eccentric clothes presented in the fashion shows of fashion week out in public? What's shown as 'this year's fashion' isn't what the general consumer is wearing.

I'd wager that if he had placed all available smartwatches in a row on the table and asked what was most fashionable, he Apple Watch wouldve garnered the most positive response, even if it doesn't scream 'fashion' on its own.

Let's be realistic...if there's aphone that people carry simply because they think it's cool or makes a statement, it's an iPhone. The same will hold for the Apple Watch, regardless of how functional it may be. There will be plenty of people wearing it simply because they think it portrays some level of status.

I think you are right. Yeah people are going to buy the crap out of it, and it will be a fashion statement. I was just trying to say that a lot of the big Apple guys on here were saying it was this big fashion item that should cost $700+. The way Apple made it look it should be competing with Rolex and Tag, but its not that kind of fashion. It does not look fashionable. What will make the watch fashionable will be because tons of people buy it. It is not some work of art.

 

[mrex]

Moto 360

...how much time Apple spent on the Watch and bands, and how that made it so great.

what is odd because all the pics show how wierd the angle is between the watch and the rubber band. most of the time it looks like it doesnt fit well...

 

[bmac4]

what is odd because all the pics show how wierd the angle is between the watch and the rubber band. most of the time it looks like it doesnt fit well...

Yeah I know. The fashion experts said it did not look like the bands and watch where built together. They said what makes a watch look great is that the band and watch look like one piece together. I just don't think it looks as great as people are trying to say it is

 

[tbayrgs]

Yeah I know. The fashion experts said it did not look like the bands and watch where built together. They said what makes a watch look great is that the band and watch look like one piece together. I just don't think it looks as great as people are trying to say it is

To each their own as design aesthetics are certainly very subjective. I do find it curious that you make this criticism yet you are using a smartwatch that does nothing of the sort. Look at the image a few posts above--the Moto 360 looks like it's resting on top of its band, like two entirely separate pieces. The Apple Watch certainly isn't as seamless as many other traditional watches but I think it does what you're describing far better than the 360.

 

[Fernandez21]

Yeah I know. The fashion experts said it did not look like the bands and watch where built together. They said what makes a watch look great is that the band and watch look like one piece together. I just don't think it looks as great as people are trying to say it is

I think the stainless steel watch with stainless steel bands looks great, totally not worth the thousand dollars Apple is asking for, but it looks good none the less. Sticking with my moto 360 at least until the second gen apple watch.

 

[bmac4]

To each their own as design aesthetics are certainly very subjective. I do find it curious that you make this criticism yet you are using a smartwatch that does nothing of the sort. Look at the image a few posts above--the Moto 360 looks like it's resting on top of its band, like two entirely separate pieces. The Apple Watch certainly isn't as seamless as many other traditional watches but I think it does what you're describing far better than the 360.

I am not saying the moto 360 looks seamless. Its not some fashion watch either. What I am saying is the Apple watch is not this beautiful fashion watch that people keep saying it is. That was what Apple was selling it as, and tried to justify the price by saying is was a fashion item. Its just not the case.

 

[tbayrgs]

I am not saying the moto 360 looks seamless. Its not some fashion watch either. What I am saying is the Apple watch is not this beautiful fashion watch that people keep saying it is. That was what Apple was selling it as, and tried to justify the price by saying is was a fashion item. Its just not the case.

Well I guess we'll see. One group of Internet fashion 'experts' don't ultimately decide whether the average consumer finds it fashionable. I'm gonna wager that in a few weeks/months you're going to start seeing it on quite a few celebrities (probably a lot of Edition versions at that) and let's face it, they tend to set fashion trends. First significant sighting was by Pharrell on The Voice--I believe he received some accolades for being amongst the most fashionable in music, or something like that. It also started making rounds on the cover of fashion mags. I don't recall ever seeing a piece of tech get this much attention by the fashion industry.

You and I may not find it fashionable but there certainly seems to be some buzz about it outside of the tech world. Only time will tell.

 

[bmac4]

Well I guess we'll see. One group of Internet fashion 'experts' don't ultimately decide whether the average consumer finds it fashionable. I'm gonna wager that in a few weeks/months you're going to start seeing it on quite a few celebrities (probably a lot of Edition versions at that) and let's face it, they tend to set fashion trends. First significant sighting was by Pharrell on The Voice--I believe he received some accolades for being amongst the most fashionable in music, or something like that. It also started making rounds on the cover of fashion mags. I don't recall ever seeing a piece of tech get this much attention by the fashion industry.

You and I may not find it fashionable but there certainly seems to be some buzz about it outside of the tech world. Only time will tell.

The iPhone is much bigger in terms of tech being fashionable. Just because people buy it does not mean it looks beautiful. It just means people want it. Not everything people buy looks good. They just buy it because everyone else has one .

 

[mrex]

Moto 360

wearing, owning and buying doesnt make it to be fashionable. which fashion industry has given much attension if not asked for commetting about it? paid vogue/magazine ads? and i follow fashion alot...

is it fashionable?
mashable.com/2015/04/08/fashion-apple-watch
make your own desicion...

what fashion world thinks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2987013/Apples-watch-impressed-fashion-world.html

 

[bmac4]

wearing, owning and buying doesnt make it to be fashionable. which fashion industry has given much attension if not asked for commetting about it? paid vogue/magazine ads? and i follow fashion alot...

is it fashionable?
mashable.com/2015/04/08/fashion-apple-watch
make your own desicion...

what fashion world thinks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2987013/Apples-watch-impressed-fashion-world.html

I agree. Just because its popular does not make it fashionable or beautifully crafted. Apple could make the ugliest gadget ever, and people would buy it. The Apple watch will sell, and sell well. That does not mean it looks good or is fashionable.