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gotluck

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^ Damn that was a hell of a deal, I probably would have bitten with walmart price match and the whole schabang

even though I'm not super interested in a smartwatch
 

epicrayban

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^ Damn that was a hell of a deal, I probably would have bitten with walmart price match and the whole schabang

even though I'm not super interested in a smartwatch


Yeah. I'm a little annoyed the Best Buy rep wouldn't give it to me. They kept insisting you have to activate the phone, even though it's a prepaid phone. Makes no sense. And there is nothing of that sort in the fine print.

Oh well. Just have to try your luck depending on the Best Buy and the sales rep.
 

gotluck

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Yeah. I'm a little annoyed the Best Buy rep wouldn't give it to me. They kept insisting you have to activate the phone, even though it's a prepaid phone. Makes no sense. And there is nothing of that sort in the fine print.

Oh well. Just have to try your luck depending on the Best Buy and the sales rep.

I would be too, especially since im 45min from Best Buy :p

that is a true slickdeal though
 

epicrayban

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I would be too, especially since im 45min from Best Buy :p

that is a true slickdeal though

Yeah. I'm not crying over spilled milk. Didn't even really want a smartwatch anyway. The deal was just too sweet. Thought I might just tinker and have some fun with it. But oh well.
 

spinedoc77

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Anyone else having weird issues with theirs? 360 is on lollipop, with a Note 4 also on lollipop having these issues:

Ambient mode ON is not working, when watch is tilted away it turns off.

Notifications on phone do NOT stay off, I turn them off and they turn themselves back on whenever I receive a notification.

Turning off tilt to activate not working either.

Man I remember the first 360 I bought pre-Lollipop to be very solid, but lollipop seems quite buggy so far. Also I'm not thrilled with battery life, I thought an update improved that? 10am to 3:30pm and I'm down to 57% light use, but ambient mode on. My Note 4 is also burning through battery since I paired it with the moto 360.
 

kodos

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Mine is in its cradle charging right now. Make sure the software update installs, it might have old FW. Battery needs to be at 80% for the FW update to install.

Got the black metal band version. It is very slick. Hope it works out, because it feels great on my wrist.
 

Fanaticalism

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Anyone else having weird issues with theirs? 360 is on lollipop, with a Note 4 also on lollipop having these issues:

Ambient mode ON is not working, when watch is tilted away it turns off.

Notifications on phone do NOT stay off, I turn them off and they turn themselves back on whenever I receive a notification.

Turning off tilt to activate not working either.

Man I remember the first 360 I bought pre-Lollipop to be very solid, but lollipop seems quite buggy so far. Also I'm not thrilled with battery life, I thought an update improved that? 10am to 3:30pm and I'm down to 57% light use, but ambient mode on. My Note 4 is also burning through battery since I paired it with the moto 360.

Ambient mode doesn't keep the watch on but dims it before it shuts off.

Not understanding the second point. Notifications are global now so if you set the watch to none then you wont get them on your phone either and vice-versa.

Never tried deactivating tilt to activate so can't speak to that.

I get a full day and end the day ranging from 20-50% battery depending on the activity throughout the day. My Nexus 6 has no issues with battery paired to the 360.
 

bmac4

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I find it very interesting how the reviews of the AW and users keep talking about the AW likes it's the first smart watch. They keep talking about the features like nothing else has ever had them. Have these people been living under a rock for the past 2 years? Watches have been doing this for a while now. I really don't get it.
 

jrswizzle

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I find it very interesting how the reviews of the AW and users keep talking about the AW likes it's the first smart watch. They keep talking about the features like nothing else has ever had them. Have these people been living under a rock for the past 2 years? Watches have been doing this for a while now. I really don't get it.

After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch.

And to be honest, there isn't another smartwatch that is so tightly integrated with it's companion smartphone.

Fundamentally it again comes down to implementation vs feature. You are correct in stating that many smartwatches have had the same features Apple Watch has (though not all that Apple Watch has). However, the implementation is what is leaving reviewers astounded.

Really its nothing new and what Apple has thrived on since the turn of the millennium. Take something others do poorly, and do it phenomenally. If initial estimates are correct, the Apple Watch has pre-sold more than all Android Wear watches combined in 2014.

It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.
 

epicrayban

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After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch.

It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.

So now we like customization? Now customization is an advantage? Heh.
 

bmac4

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After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch.

And to be honest, there isn't another smartwatch that is so tightly integrated with it's companion smartphone.

Fundamentally it again comes down to implementation vs feature. You are correct in stating that many smartwatches have had the same features Apple Watch has (though not all that Apple Watch has). However, the implementation is what is leaving reviewers astounded.

Really its nothing new and what Apple has thrived on since the turn of the millennium. Take something others do poorly, and do it phenomenally. If initial estimates are correct, the Apple Watch has pre-sold more than all Android Wear watches combined in 2014.

It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.
I understand what you are saying, and yes a lot of reviewers are saying it does a lot of things better than android wear. What I am talking about are people getting excited about something like the heat rate sensor. I saw a video with a guy say "it even has this sensor so you get your heat rate on the watch", and he continued to talk about it like he had never heard of it before. These guys are suppose to be reviewers, they should know the products they are in direct competition.

I have never held or seen the AW in person, and I am sure its great. And yes you are right it did sell much better than android wear watches. I would just like to see reviewers that actually know the industry, and not someone that just reviews Apple products. Saying its the best smartwatch yet, but clearly never trying another one, makes you look very dumb.

Customizable? I thought that was one of the complaints about the AW. All the reviews I have seen say the watch faces are only limited to the ones AW put on the watch. In what ways do you see it as customizable more so than android wear?
 

Technarchy

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I have never held or seen the AW in person, and I am sure its great.

Give it a shot. The overall polish of the interface, the OS fluidity, and all around good looking design make the gaggle of android wear devices look pretty tragic in comparison.

The package is just so well put together that it becomes easy for reviewers and consumers to dismiss the blah endeavors that came prior.
 

bmac4

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Give it a shot. The overall polish of the interface, the OS fluidity, and all around good looking design make the gaggle of android wear devices look pretty tragic in comparison.

The package is just so well put together that it becomes easy for reviewers and consumers to dismiss the blah endeavors that came prior.
I am sure the craftsmanship is better than anything else we have seen, but I feel like that is only half the package. It does not do anything to change the way a smartwatch works, and I am not sure they were able to accomplish what they did with the first iPhone. They in no way made the smartwatch revolutionary. Yes millions have pre ordered, but at this point does the single thing make it a good product. Not in the least. I am not saying it's bad, but this was in no way a game changer.
 

JaySoul

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After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch.

And to be honest, there isn't another smartwatch that is so tightly integrated with it's companion smartphone.

Fundamentally it again comes down to implementation vs feature. You are correct in stating that many smartwatches have had the same features Apple Watch has (though not all that Apple Watch has). However, the implementation is what is leaving reviewers astounded.

Really its nothing new and what Apple has thrived on since the turn of the millennium. Take something others do poorly, and do it phenomenally. If initial estimates are correct, the Apple Watch has pre-sold more than all Android Wear watches combined in 2014.

It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.

It's going to be really interesting to see how the next year plays out with the Apple Watch.
 

MasterRyu2011

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Aug 22, 2014
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After trying one on and really seeing it in person, there isn't another smartwatch like the Apple Watch.

And to be honest, there isn't another smartwatch that is so tightly integrated with it's companion smartphone.

Fundamentally it again comes down to implementation vs feature. You are correct in stating that many smartwatches have had the same features Apple Watch has (though not all that Apple Watch has). However, the implementation is what is leaving reviewers astounded.

Really its nothing new and what Apple has thrived on since the turn of the millennium. Take something others do poorly, and do it phenomenally. If initial estimates are correct, the Apple Watch has pre-sold more than all Android Wear watches combined in 2014.

It also looks and feels a hell of a lot better and, ironically enough, is more customizable.

I don't understand how you would say that Apple Watch is anymore integrated with your smartphone than the Android Wear Watches. I have the Moto 360. If I install an app and it has a watch component, the watch also gets that app. Google Now updates get transferred to the watch. I can turn off or on notifications for any app to appear on my watch. If I'm reading something on my Watch and want to see more info on my smartphone, I can click a "continuity" type button on the watch and it automatically appears on my smartphone. When I open the camera on my smartphone, my Watch will show a shutter button for me to press. I can fling pictures from my smartphone to my watch. If I got off my chair and forgot to carry my phone with me, my Watch will buzz noticeably with red graphics notifying that the bluetooth connection is off, signaling to me that I no longer have my phone with me. This is in addition to all the 3rd party apps that can do a bunch of neat tricks with the smartphone and watch. Is this not tight integration? What other integration points are we talking about here? I'm genuinely interested because I'm hearing this more and more now.
 

epicrayban

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Personally, I'm waiting for one thing: battery.

Better battery that can last days, not hours. It's a tall order in a small device, yes, but that's what I'm waiting for.
 

bmac4

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I don't understand how you would say that Apple Watch is anymore integrated with your smartphone than the Android Wear Watches. I have the Moto 360. If I install an app and it has a watch component, the watch also gets that app. Google Now updates get transferred to the watch. I can turn off or on notifications for any app to appear on my watch. If I'm reading something on my Watch and want to see more info on my smartphone, I can click a "continuity" type button on the watch and it automatically appears on my smartphone. When I open the camera on my smartphone, my Watch will show a shutter button for me to press. I can fling pictures from my smartphone to my watch. If I got off my chair and forgot to carry my phone with me, my Watch will buzz noticeably with red graphics notifying that the bluetooth connection is off, signaling to me that I no longer have my phone with me. This is in addition to all the 3rd party apps that can do a bunch of neat tricks with the smartphone and watch. Is this not tight integration? What other integration points are we talking about here? I'm genuinely interested because I'm hearing this more and more now.
I agree. I had the People steel for about a year, and that was not integrated so well with my iPhone or android phone. Android wear on the other hand works seamlessly with my nexus 6. Honestly what does the AW offer in terms of integration that android wear doesn't have?
 

AppleRobert

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Personally, I'm waiting for one thing: battery.

Better battery that can last days, not hours. It's a tall order in a small device, yes, but that's what I'm waiting for.

Why? I understand that if it cannot get one through the day but otherwise just charge it when you retire for the night.
 

g0df4th3r

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I don't understand how you would say that Apple Watch is anymore integrated with your smartphone than the Android Wear Watches. I have the Moto 360. If I install an app and it has a watch component, the watch also gets that app. Google Now updates get transferred to the watch. I can turn off or on notifications for any app to appear on my watch. If I'm reading something on my Watch and want to see more info on my smartphone, I can click a "continuity" type button on the watch and it automatically appears on my smartphone. When I open the camera on my smartphone, my Watch will show a shutter button for me to press. I can fling pictures from my smartphone to my watch. If I got off my chair and forgot to carry my phone with me, my Watch will buzz noticeably with red graphics notifying that the bluetooth connection is off, signaling to me that I no longer have my phone with me. This is in addition to all the 3rd party apps that can do a bunch of neat tricks with the smartphone and watch. Is this not tight integration? What other integration points are we talking about here? I'm genuinely interested because I'm hearing this more and more now.

Completely agree. I don't know what customization he's talking about. If he's talking about changing bands color then yes Apple watch has more choices. If he's talking about watch face then he has no clue about the thousands of watch faces available for Android wear. You can even customize it the way you want.
 

epicrayban

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Why? I understand that if it cannot get one through the day but otherwise just charge it when you retire for the night.

I suppose I mean more specifically that it'll get me through the day safely without compromises. For example, the watch would always have to be lit. None of that bring your wrist up and the display turns on thing. I just want to glance at my watch for the time.

If smartwatches can begin to do that, I guess I could be happy with that.
 

spinedoc77

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My battery life is improving for some reason. When I first got it, I'd get home and it would be 15% or so. Now I'm getting home and it is 30-35%, quite a difference. I'm not really doing anything differently. Anyone else?

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Completely agree. I don't know what customization he's talking about. If he's talking about changing bands color then yes Apple watch has more choices. If he's talking about watch face then he has no clue about the thousands of watch faces available for Android wear. You can even customize it the way you want.

Don't forget apps like Watchmaker, a simply incredible app. I have my Moto360 watch face customized, I have my own fonts, custom items like battery life that changes color, I have a stopwatch and changing weather, heart rate, etc etc all customizable. You can do easy customizations like dragging and dropping elements, or you can go crazy and actually program stuff in LUA.
 

AppleRobert

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There is no way smart watches ever take off like tablets or smart phones

They are not cost efficient for the masses. Yes, something like the Pebble is only $100 but still for most that is not even worth it for their use.

I am interested in Apple's sales figure, especially after the initial wave of interest. At those prices, I doubt much activity otherwise.
 
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