Moto 360

[Fernandez21]

They are not cost efficient for the masses. Yes, something like the Pebble is only $100 but still for most that is not even worth it for their use.

I am interested in Apple's sales figure, especially after the initial wave of interest. At those prices, I doubt much activity otherwise.

I actually think in 10 years, the watch will be your hub, it will be your phone, your text message hub, your mobile internet connection, your wallet, your keys, and your audio hub (music/podcasts), and from there you will connect larger devices if you want, like a phone sized tablet or larger.

 

[mclld]

I think if anything the phone will be the hub

 

[kdarling]

Anyone else having weird issues with theirs? 360 is on lollipop, with a Note 4 also on lollipop having these issues:

Ambient mode ON is not working, when watch is tilted away it turns off.

It might depend on the watchface, too. I had one that I think was eating my LGR battery, because it was checking weather or something too often. (Or perhaps it was during a day that I was out of contact with my phone. and it kept trying to get the weather. Not sure.)

Also, different Android Wear watches have different ambient modes. The Moto 360 goes pretty dim in its inactive mode. OTOH, the LG Watch R seems to be brighter in its inactive mode than in active mode!

My battery life is improving for some reason. When I first got it, I'd get home and it would be 15% or so. Now I'm getting home and it is 30-35%, quite a difference. I'm not really doing anything differently. Anyone else?

This is partly why I bought a used Moto 360. The previous owner advertised that it had "gotten past the battery burn-in time, and now had all day battery life." I didn't believe it until I used it myself.

 

[Fernandez21]

I think if anything the phone will be the hub

Well, the phone is pretty much the hub now, and the problem is there are definite times where it would be nice to leave without your phone but you can't unless your willing to be completely disconnected. With the watch being the hub, it will allow you to go places not really carrying anything other than a watch strapped to your wrist, and when you want you can connect something like a phone or tablet to it and take that with you.

 

[sracer]

I actually think in 10 years, the watch will be your hub, it will be your phone, your text message hub, your mobile internet connection, your wallet, your keys, and your audio hub (music/podcasts), and from there you will connect larger devices if you want, like a phone sized tablet or larger.

Well, the phone is pretty much the hub now, and the problem is there are definite times where it would be nice to leave without your phone but you can't unless your willing to be completely disconnected. With the watch being the hub, it will allow you to go places not really carrying anything other than a watch strapped to your wrist, and when you want you can connect something like a phone or tablet to it and take that with you.

This.

I agree that it will be the watch that will be the hub. I can envision the watch having the processing guts and then have different "views" or "form factors"... a phone, tablet, or even netbook... all of which simply communicate with the watch and provide input and output to it.

 

[bmac4]

So I was lurking in the AW section of the forums (which is hard to find any quality thoughts of the watch through all the crap), and it seems all the problems that other smart watches have. The AW has them as well. Notification not working right, lifting wrist to turn on the screen, and all the complaints people have about android wear. I just don't see the AW as the thing that has changed smart watches forever like the iphone, and iPad before it. It just another smarthwatch with a big price tag and an Apple's name on it. I do not think this is a game changer. I really think we are still waiting on that.

 

[spinedoc77]

This.

I agree that it will be the watch that will be the hub. I can envision the watch having the processing guts and then have different "views" or "form factors"... a phone, tablet, or even netbook... all of which simply communicate with the watch and provide input and output to it.

Or a foldable smartwatch that unfolds into a phone, then into a tablet!!!! Hey why not dream?

 

[Fernandez21]

So I was lurking in the AW section of the forums (which is hard to find any quality thoughts of the watch through all the crap), and it seems all the problems that other smart watches have. The AW has them as well. Notification not working right, lifting wrist to turn on the screen, and all the complaints people have about android wear. I just don't see the AW as the thing that has changed smart watches forever like the iphone, and iPad before it. It just another smarthwatch with a big price tag and an Apple's name on it. I do not think this is a game changer. I really think we are still waiting on that.

Oh god, the apple watch section is the worst right now, never seen so many fanboyisms in one place, everything apple is the best and everything non apple is the worst. Hopefully in a couple months that place will settle down and good discussions can take place.

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Or a foldable smartwatch that unfolds into a phone, then into a tablet!!!! Hey why not dream?

Well, as long as we're dreaming, why not take it to the ultimate, where you press a button and a screen is holographicly prpjected, that would be sweet.

 

[bmac4]

Oh god, the apple watch section is the worst right now, never seen so many fanboyisms in one place, everything apple is the best and everything non apple is the worst. Hopefully in a couple months that place will settle down and good discussions can take place.

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Well, as long as we're dreaming, why not take it to the ultimate, where you press a button and a screen is holographicly prpjected, that would be sweet.

I truly want to see some good options of the watch, but in typical form Apple picked which people that could review the watch knowing they would get good reviews. Of course the people in the AW section on here are crazy.

 

[tbayrgs]

Oh god, the apple watch section is the worst right now, never seen so many fanboyisms in one place, everything apple is the best and everything non apple is the worst. Hopefully in a couple months that place will settle down and good discussions can take place.

Yup, precisely why I spend most of my time in this sub forum even though I'm still presently using predominantly Apple devices. The drama regarding late deliveries alone is insane. So many people need to get a grip!

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I truly want to see some good options of the watch, but in typical form Apple picked which people that could review the watch knowing they would get good reviews. Of course the people in the AW section on here are crazy.

I'm expecting to take delivery of an Apple Watch sometime in the next week or two and I hope you guys see me as being relatively objective when it comes to evaluating the devices I use (even though I obviously like Apple ) so I'll do my best to offer some reasonably unbiased opinions after using it for a week or two.

I'd also like to put an Android Wear watch through its paces but the only model that I find intriguing that's out now is the LG G Watch R--havent found a used one at a decent price. Maybe I'll wait a couple weeks and try to pick up a new Urbane to test and compare.

 

[bmac4]

Yup, precisely why I spend most of my time in this sub forum even though I'm still presently using predominantly Apple devices. The drama regarding late deliveries alone is insane. So many people need to get a grip!

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I'm expecting to take delivery of an Apple Watch sometime in the next week or two and I hope you guys see me as being relatively objective when it comes to evaluating the devices I use (even though I obviously like Apple ) so I'll do my best to offer some reasonably unbiased opinions after using it for a week or two.

I'd also like to put an Android Wear watch through its paces but the only model that I find intriguing that's out now is the LG G Watch R--havent found a used one at a decent price. Maybe I'll wait a couple weeks and try to pick up a new Urbane to test and compare.

Yeah I would love to see your thoughts

 

[spinedoc77]

Yup, precisely why I spend most of my time in this sub forum even though I'm still presently using predominantly Apple devices. The drama regarding late deliveries alone is insane. So many people need to get a grip!

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I'm expecting to take delivery of an Apple Watch sometime in the next week or two and I hope you guys see me as being relatively objective when it comes to evaluating the devices I use (even though I obviously like Apple ) so I'll do my best to offer some reasonably unbiased opinions after using it for a week or two.

I'd also like to put an Android Wear watch through its paces but the only model that I find intriguing that's out now is the LG G Watch R--havent found a used one at a decent price. Maybe I'll wait a couple weeks and try to pick up a new Urbane to test and compare.

Definitely curious, I have yet to fondle one in store. Im curious if the reviews of lagginess and slow loading apps are accurate. I like the apple watch mainly because it will push android and other watchmakers very hard to up their game. While I have zero excitement about the apple watch, I'm VERY excited about what comes next from the android side.

 

[bmac4]

Definitely curious, I have yet to fondle one in store. Im curious if the reviews of lagginess and slow loading apps are accurate. I like the apple watch mainly because it will push android and other watchmakers very hard to up their game. While I have zero excitement about the apple watch, I'm VERY excited about what comes next from the android side.

Yep same here. I am ready for android wear to come to IOS so I can switch between my 6+ and nexus 6.

 

[tbayrgs]

Yep same here. I am ready for android wear to come to IOS so I can switch between my 6+ and nexus 6.

Unless there is some bad publicity that pressures them to to allow it, I wouldn't hold my breath that it ever gets approved for iOS. That earlier link showing how an app was declined solely for mentioning its compatibility with Pebble doesn't bode well for Android Wear. How on Earth would Google be able to explain what the app does without mentioning Android Wear.

If it does get approved, I suspect it will need to be heavily crippled compared to both what the Apple Watch offers and what Android Wear can do natively with Android phones.

 

[tbayrgs]

Definitely curious, I have yet to fondle one in store. Im curious if the reviews of lagginess and slow loading apps are accurate. I like the apple watch mainly because it will push android and other watchmakers very hard to up their game. While I have zero excitement about the apple watch, I'm VERY excited about what comes next from the android side.

Like the design or not, the Apple Watch build quality and materials far surpass anything else available so far. My wife's was delivered today (how's that for a tease ) and it really is beautifully crafted. And while I've been critical about band pricing, interchangeability is so easy it's almost worth it.

I'm not even firing it up because as my wife is a wonderfully intelligent woman (all physicians are, right spinedoc? ), she's almost tech illiterate and I think I'll be more useful to walk through the setup together. I'm optimistic about much that the Apple Watch advertised but it really is the most Samsung like device in their arsenal--has everything but the kitchen sink but not really very intuitive. The UI is very un-Apple-like, IMO. We shall see.

 

[kdarling]

Definitely curious, I have yet to fondle one in store. Im curious if the reviews of lagginess and slow loading apps are accurate.

I stopped by an Apple Store the other day on a whim, and was immediately given a try-on appointment. The first thing you notice is what others have: it seems much smaller in person than in pictures. Maybe it's because Apple shows us so many closeups

I didn't try running apps, but the UI does have a learning curve. Even the Apple salespeople who play with the watches all day had problems navigating at times. Too many buttons. Too many dead-end modes.

Another minor annoyance: when I used the crown to select from the circular friends list, it seemed to take an unusually large amount of spinning to move between each friend entry.

I like the apple watch mainly because it will push android and other watchmakers very hard to up their game. While I have zero excitement about the apple watch, I'm VERY excited about what comes next from the android side.

Yep, but I'd still really like to see Android Wear come to iOS.

For someone who just needs the basics, it seems like a better deal to pick from a stainless steel Moto 360, or LG Watch R, or LG Urbane, or Huawei (with sapphire screen), all with the ability to use a nearly infinite choice of affordable straps out of the box... for the same price as a Sport (or even hundreds of dollars less)!

Not to mention little extras like how the LG watches can stay on all the time for a couple of days.



That's my modified LGWR above, photographed next to the Apple Watch I was trying on. The LGWR is 46mm. The Huawei will be only 42mm, the same as that Apple Watch's height.

 

[Fernandez21]

I stopped by an Apple Store the other day on a whim, and was immediately given a try-on appointment. The first thing you notice is what others have: it seems much smaller in person than in pictures. Maybe it's because Apple shows us so many closeups

I didn't try running apps, but the UI does have a learning curve. Even the Apple salespeople who play with the watches all day had problems navigating at times. Too many buttons. Too many dead-end modes.

Another minor annoyance: when I used the crown to select from the circular friends list, it seemed to take an unusually large amount of spinning to move between each friend entry.



Yep, but I'd still really like to see Android Wear come to iOS.

For someone who just needs the basics, it seems like a better deal to pick from a stainless steel Moto 360, or LG Watch R, or LG Urbane, or Huawei (with sapphire screen), all with the ability to use a nearly infinite choice of affordable straps out of the box... for the same price as a Sport (or even hundreds of dollars less)!

Not to mention little extras like how the LG watches can stay on all the time for a couple of days.

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That's my modified LGWR above, photographed next to the Apple Watch I was trying on. The LGWR is 46mm. The Huawei will be only 42mm, the same as that Apple Watch's height.

Yeah, I tried one one today too, and its much smaller and sleeker than what I thought it would be. My Moto 360 seems bulky in comparison. Was very impressed with the screen and the taptic feedback. I initially completely dismissed it because of the price, but now I'm thinking of selling my Note 4 to pick one up, though I may sell the note regardless.

 

[jrswizzle]

I understand what you are saying, and yes a lot of reviewers are saying it does a lot of things better than android wear. What I am talking about are people getting excited about something like the heat rate sensor. I saw a video with a guy say "it even has this sensor so you get your heat rate on the watch", and he continued to talk about it like he had never heard of it before. These guys are suppose to be reviewers, they should know the products they are in direct competition.

I have never held or seen the AW in person, and I am sure its great. And yes you are right it did sell much better than android wear watches. I would just like to see reviewers that actually know the industry, and not someone that just reviews Apple products. Saying its the best smartwatch yet, but clearly never trying another one, makes you look very dumb.

Customizable? I thought that was one of the complaints about the AW. All the reviews I have seen say the watch faces are only limited to the ones AW put on the watch. In what ways do you see it as customizable more so than android wear?

You haven't seen all the ways you can customize each face though.

And I was speaking more from a watch and band materials standpoint.

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It's Jrswizzle talking, guys. What'd y'all expect?

This seems late in the conversation.

A big part of a wearable is the design. Some are saying it doesn't mean anything, but I disagree. Hence why Apple has put so much time and effort into marketing the device as a piece of jewelry in addition to a gadget.

Some won't see it that way, but it doesn't mean they won't try. And at the end of the day, a watch is a piece of jewelry. The smart watch that bridges the gap wins the first big battle for the wrist.

Then we can get into all the other things a watch could potentially do that I'm not yet aware of.

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I don't understand how you would say that Apple Watch is anymore integrated with your smartphone than the Android Wear Watches. I have the Moto 360. If I install an app and it has a watch component, the watch also gets that app. Google Now updates get transferred to the watch. I can turn off or on notifications for any app to appear on my watch. If I'm reading something on my Watch and want to see more info on my smartphone, I can click a "continuity" type button on the watch and it automatically appears on my smartphone. When I open the camera on my smartphone, my Watch will show a shutter button for me to press. I can fling pictures from my smartphone to my watch. If I got off my chair and forgot to carry my phone with me, my Watch will buzz noticeably with red graphics notifying that the bluetooth connection is off, signaling to me that I no longer have my phone with me. This is in addition to all the 3rd party apps that can do a bunch of neat tricks with the smartphone and watch. Is this not tight integration? What other integration points are we talking about here? I'm genuinely interested because I'm hearing this more and more now.

You list a bunch of things I didn't know we're available right out of the box with Android Wear.

My mistake.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I stopped by an Apple Store the other day on a whim, and was immediately given a try-on appointment. The first thing you notice is what others have: it seems much smaller in person than in pictures. Maybe it's because Apple shows us so many closeups

I didn't try running apps, but the UI does have a learning curve. Even the Apple salespeople who play with the watches all day had problems navigating at times. Too many buttons. Too many dead-end modes.

Another minor annoyance: when I used the crown to select from the circular friends list, it seemed to take an unusually large amount of spinning to move between each friend entry.



Yep, but I'd still really like to see Android Wear come to iOS.

For someone who just needs the basics, it seems like a better deal to pick from a stainless steel Moto 360, or LG Watch R, or LG Urbane, or Huawei (with sapphire screen), all with the ability to use a nearly infinite choice of affordable straps out of the box... for the same price as a Sport (or even hundreds of dollars less)!

Not to mention little extras like how the LG watches can stay on all the time for a couple of days.

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That's my modified LGWR above, photographed next to the Apple Watch I was trying on. The LGWR is 46mm. The Huawei will be only 42mm, the same as that Apple Watch's height.

The Apple Watch may ultimately have the finer crafting, but this sort of comparison really shows how toyish looking the Apple Watch is to the LG. It is like looking at a square 1980's Casio databank and comparing it to a Tissot or Tag. Please lord, let Android Wear come to iOS! And soon! The Urbane is calling my name, but want it to work with my iPhone.

 

[bmac4]

You haven't seen all the ways you can customize each face though.

And I was speaking more from a watch and band materials standpoint.

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This seems late in the conversation.

A big part of a wearable is the design. Some are saying it doesn't mean anything, but I disagree. Hence why Apple has put so much time and effort into marketing the device as a piece of jewelry in addition to a gadget.

Some won't see it that way, but it doesn't mean they won't try. And at the end of the day, a watch is a piece of jewelry. The smart watch that bridges the gap wins the first big battle for the wrist.

Then we can get into all the other things a watch could potentially do that I'm not yet aware of.

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You list a bunch of things I didn't know we're available right out of the box with Android Wear.

My mistake.

Yeah you do have more options with the bands and material. I will give Apple that. I just don't see how this watch revolutionized anything. I feel like its just another smartwatch made only for iOS. I expect much more from Apple. That is the only reason I moved back to android. I was so disappointed by the AW, and the fact iOS has nothing else to offer. My moto 360 has been amazing for my needs.

 

[jrswizzle]

Yeah you do have more options with the bands and material. I will give Apple that. I just don't see how this watch revolutionized anything. I feel like its just another smartwatch made only for iOS. I expect much more from Apple. That is the only reason I moved back to android. I was so disappointed by the AW, and the fact iOS has nothing else to offer. My moto 360 has been amazing for my needs.

"Nothing else to offer"....that's your opinion and it's valid for you. No reason to argue for me. I personally feel iOS and the Apple ecosystem offers more than the competition for me. That's why I stay.

The AW is the first smart watch to actually compete as a piece of luxury jewelry and not just a gadget. It's also the only smart watch that works with iOS. Big plus for those of us who really like iOS.

I don't need it to do more than it does at this point (I'd take a GPS on board though). I just need it to do what it does as well as my iPhone, iPad and Macs do what they do. And I like that they all look good doing what they do.

It's not terribly complicated. At this point. I'm not sure what revolutionary would look like. I will say digital touch, the haptic engine and the way the watch makes communication easy are unique. The interface is smooth and intuitive. There are already 3,000 apps built specifically for AW. That number is expected to reach over 100,000 this year.

Polish is a big thing for me.

 

[bmac4]

"Nothing else to offer"....that's your opinion and it's valid for you. No reason to argue for me. I personally feel iOS and the Apple ecosystem offers more than the competition for me. That's why I stay.

The AW is the first smart watch to actually compete as a piece of luxury jewelry and not just a gadget. It's also the only smart watch that works with iOS. Big plus for those of us who really like iOS.

I don't need it to do more than it does at this point (I'd take a GPS on board though). I just need it to do what it does as well as my iPhone, iPad and Macs do what they do. And I like that they all look good doing what they do.

It's not terribly complicated. At this point. I'm not sure what revolutionary would look like. I will say digital touch, the haptic engine and the way the watch makes communication easy are unique. The interface is smooth and intuitive. There are already 3,000 apps built specifically for AW. That number is expected to reach over 100,000 this year.

Polish is a big thing for me.

No argument from me on iOS. If I am honest I miss a lot about the iPhone.

I feel like all the reviews I have seen have talked about the AW like it was the greatest thing Apple had done since the iPad. I don't think it has done anything to change the smartwatch which is fine, but when you are asking people to pay at least $350.00. I expect a game changer. I don't think the AW did that. Now with that being said I think its a good smartwatch, and I think it will do really well. I just could not justify paying $700 for the watch I wanted. It just does not make since to me. I don't think the price justifies the product, but that is just my opinion.

If you are getting I hope you enjoy yours. I hope the android wear app comes to iOS. I would really like to switch between iOS and android.

 

[jrswizzle]

No argument from me on iOS. If I am honest I miss a lot about the iPhone.

I feel like all the reviews I have seen have talked about the AW like it was the greatest thing Apple had done since the iPad. I don't think it has done anything to change the smartwatch which is fine, but when you are asking people to pay at least $350.00. I expect a game changer. I don't think the AW did that. Now with that being said I think its a good smartwatch, and I think it will do really well. I just could not justify paying $700 for the watch I wanted. It just does not make since to me. I don't think the price justifies the product, but that is just my opinion.

If you are getting I hope you enjoy yours. I hope the android wear app comes to iOS. I would really like to switch between iOS and android.

My Stainless Steal with classic leather buckle is hopefully only a few weeks away. I've tried it on and it feels fantastic. Looks awesome as well.

I've wanted a smartwatch for a while....thought about the Moto360 but in person it didn't wow me. The AW did.

 

[bmac4]

My Stainless Steal with classic leather buckle is hopefully only a few weeks away. I've tried it on and it feels fantastic. Looks awesome as well.

I've wanted a smartwatch for a while....thought about the Moto360 but in person it didn't wow me. The AW did.

Hey get what works for you. I am sure you will enjoy yours. I am loving my moto 360, and I can't wait for the new update. I feel like the build is really nice, though I still have not gotten a change to get a hold of an AW.

 

[jrswizzle]

Hey get what works for you. I am sure you will enjoy yours. I am loving my moto 360, and I can't wait for the new update. I feel like the build is really nice, though I still have not gotten a change to get a hold of an AW.

I will say, the demos of Android Wear don't do it justice.....really can't get a feel for the OS from any of the demos I've seen.

If you haven't tried on the Apple Watch I would encourage you to do so. I was already excited - the try-on exceeded my expectations.