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You mean it isn't identical to iOS? My Z Fold 4 and Galaxy TAB S8 absolutely slay all Apple phones and tablets in my opinion. I prefer the hardware and I much prefer the software.
We all get used to certain apps and when we swap platforms we miss certain things. It isn't only Apple fans who feel like that you know. It works both ways.
Yes of course. I never claim to speak for anyone but myself. I mean, my post ends with “for me”; that anyone can pull offense from that is just hilarious.
I didn't take offence.
If you've spent years on iOS and in the fruity ecosystem then changing will take a learning curve that plenty cannot be bothered with and I totally get that. Just don't say that your reluctance is due to Android not being quite there. It's totally there.
Autofill? Not there. Biometrics? Definitely not there.
How about speech to text on iOS? Call screening? Not there. Multi tasking on iOS? Not there. iOS settings menu. Not there. iOS customization. Not there.
iOS took the app drawer from Android, widgets from Android.
I could go on.
Your post is laughable. Unfortunately Apple hasn't innovated in a while It is unfortunate because I like both platforms but if anyone wants to dish on what of the two mobile OS is more advanced I don't think it is Apple iOS users right now.
Nah uh. Completely wrong.
The following comparisons involve use of an s23 ultra and pixel 7 pro:
Auto fill requires at least 3 extra steps each time i use it
Fingerprint scanners are actual garbage compared to faceID (due to the convenience of never having to manually place my finger on the screen (it’s so good I’ve had people come to me for help thinking their phone is broken and not locking, but it’s just faceID , 2x security, and privacy features (hiding notifications until you yourself look at it)
What about shutter lag in the camera
Or the battery drain bug where one random day your phone will decide not to have 8h screen on battery, but it’ll have 1, then the next day back to 8 for no reason
The Pixel 7 fingerprint scanner was trash for me, it worked 50% of the time and lit up a room at night. My S23+ works 99% of the time.
Autofill is getting there for me, iOS still feels faster but just by a bit. You need to adjust a setting within accessibility for example to make password managers autofill properly. I use Bitwarden, now it typically requires one click on the S23.
This phone is faster in daily tasks than iOS. Scrolling, switching between apps, overall responsiveness / touch sampling rate feel faster. I've never said that before about Android, at least on a consistent basis.
Camera has worked perfectly for my needs. Notifications are set to only appear as icons on the top of my screen so all data always stays hidden until I want to view it. I don't care for the banners on iOS. I like having a calendar widget that is actually usable without opening the calendar, I can just scroll within the widget on my home screen. Home Up customization allows me to swipe up anytime and view all open apps at once as icons / small windows on the screen so I can quickly go back and forth. It is very useful.
Live sports widgets actually work, I have my NBA and MLB teams appear on my screen when they have games, no need to even install any app. I set it up once and done. And it doesn't pop up as a giant banner like I'd seen on iOS, it's a tiny widget the size of dynamic island oddly enough.
Google assistant destroys Siri, it isn't close. I've used it more in 3 weeks than I've used Siri in 1 year. I can just tell it to call whatever business or place I want and it will, I haven't had these results with Siri.
Different strokes for different folks. I still have my 14 Pro Max in case I really need to switch back, but so far the S23 has impressed me. Usually I don't last more than 3 months on Android, this time really feels different.
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I returned my Pixel 7 only because of the size (my previous phones were Nexus 6P and, currently, iPhone SE 2022) and let me tell you — I miss the Google Assistant all the time. It was insane how I could ask it anything and get an answer read back to me. And it worked great for calling, like you said.
It’s rumored that the Pixel 8 will be a little smaller.
Don’t know when I’ll switch back, but I can’t wait.
I hope you’ve got a good enough signal for when your grandchildren don’t call!
It also doesn't matter nearly as much as it does on iOS, because the important things get updated throughout the year, unlike on iOS. Because of that, the OS updates really aren't that big of a deal at all. Apple could stand to take a page out of Android's book in that regard.
What exactly is "just not quite there"?
This doesn't make much sense to me. It's pretty straight forward... I don't know what's confusing about logging in when you set the phone up. Heck, with Samsung, you can literally use your Google account to do it. What's so confusing about that?
That makes no sense at all. Additionally, "robust" doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. Your use of it, doesn't really make sense there. Anyway, considering pretty much everything uses USB C nowadays, including new cars...I'm going to go ahead and call what you said way off the mark.
You really keep phones for 4 years?! Yikes...
ACTUALLY...you can make anything full screen. You can even go as far as hiding the notification panel, and make every app utilize 100% of the display, something you can't do on iPhone.
"When they implement something they usually wait and do it correctly"? Really? There have been plenty of examples where they have (we'll call it adopted) existing features from other phones, and did a poorer job of it. Heck, look at their imitation of the always on display. It's awful! Look when they first started Apple Pay, it couldn't even work most places, while Samsung had MST and their tap to pay worked pretty much everywhere. Look how awful their widgets are. That certainly isn't "done correctly". Crash detection? As many false alarms as that thing has generated, we definitely won't call that "done correctly". There are so many examples of them wetting the bed after adding a feature that was already available years before, it isn't funny. Let's stop pretending like Apple does no wrong.
When you're used to having the full screen real estate, it's very distracting to have a big section of it missing. Sure if you're used to it, you've learned to live with that handicap. But for those with an able-bodied screen, that is big drop in comfortability of use.
You heard wrong. The fingerprint sensor is killer, and is much better than having to point your face at your phone.
Invisible? Are you using your phone with your eyes closed? You can't miss it!
He's right. It isn't. I'm sorry, but it's crap. Apple wet the bed on that one. It's a poor design and a poor implementation. If another company was the one that came up with it, Apple fanboys would be laughing it up mocking them for such a terrible choice. But of course if Apple does it, it's somehow wonderful.
No. I'm going to call bs on that. If you really had one, you weren't experiencing failures of the fingerprint scanner. That thing works wonderfully, and it works extremely fast. It can read your fingerprint with just a quick tap of the screen. You don't even have to hold your finger there. So I'm going to call shenanigans on this comment. Stop it.
Well said. While he's talking about what's not there, there's a long list of things that's not there. Heck, iPhone still doesn't even have smart lock. How many years has that existed? Are we at 10 yet? It's been forever, and they still don't even have basic conveniences like that, and he's talking about what's not quite there? lol that is indeed laughable. Still no smart dialing capabilities? Heck that existed back in the Windows Mobile days, before the iPhone existed, and you're telling me you still can't do it?! Wow! I don't want to see an iPhone user talking about what's "not quite there", when their device of choice is lacking so much BASIC functionality. lol
That's what happens when you are stuck using the tech of yesteryear (iDevices). As you can see here, that isn't an issue with the current tech... The fingerprint reader is exceptional, even with wet, oily, or dirty hands.
Why should change to USB-C be a reason to switch to Android? Having Mac, iPad and now also iPhone with USB-C will, for me, be a big plus. I would need a much bigger and real advantage to consider a switch.
It’s horses for courses imo. There are things that are not quite there/ not there at all on the iPhone/ios. such as customisation, true multi tasking, a Dex like feature, pen/pencil support. Both platforms are good enough. It’s just as the poster said, I’ve just spent so long with the iPhone and I’m invested in the Apple ecosystem that I find it’s a better fit for me. If for some reason I had use an android phone I would be perfectly fine. The last android phone I used at any length was the S21 ultra. It was a nice phone and I couldn’t fault it. In many aspects it was objectively better than the iPhone 12 Pro Max that I had at the time. The reason why I no longer have it is because I am too invested in the Apple ecosystem and it made it difficult to use two phones at the same time.
It doesn’t bother me because I use MagSafe for my iPhone and I only have a few devices (AirPods Pro, AirPods Max and Apple TV remotes) that use lightning. However if I was given the choice I would prefer for the iPhone to have USB-C. My MacBook uses USB-C my iPads use USB-C. I have other devices that use usb-c like my switch and my kindles so it would just be much easier if everything used the same charger.
Plenty of examples but you mentioned the “awful” AOD… Your opinion and Apple Pay vs MST… Oh wait Samsung abandoned that 😂😂😂
I never said Apple could do no wrong. Maybe you’re hearing voices but that’s not from me
They moved on from it YEARS later, after tap to pay became much more common in stores. However, before that happened Apple's implementation struggled for years due to the lack of places it could be used. Let's not try to rewrite history please.
That doesn't change the point. As clearly demonstrated in the video, if you were using something with up to date tech, that wouldn't be an issue, hence the "yesteryear" statement.
Based on my limited experience Face ID was a tad more reliable but I think that the in display FPS is good enough and in some situations a FPS is preferable to Face ID. It would be nice to have both. But either one is fine. My iPad mini 6 doesn’t have an in display fingerprint sensor, it and a power button one and I really don’t mind at all I use my Apple Watch for Apple Pay so which is better is moot point for me.
If you don't like those examples, we can continue. Apple (in typical fashion) was late to the 120hz game, and certainly did NOT do it correctly. The 13 Pro Max had plenty of issues with lag and dropped framerate. Apple increased the zoom on the 13 Pro Max, and only went to 3x optical, and had a lousy 10x digital. That's doing zoom correctly? Notifications? Come on now. Apple has a long way to go. When they came out with their OLED display (finally), it was a low end poor resolution implementation. That was doing it correct? I could go on and on, but I think you get the idea. That whole notion of "when they implement something they usually wait and do it correctly", is nonsense.
For me, I don't care to use face unlock. There are times when I'm picking up my phone, that I don't necessarily want it to unlock. I may just be checking something quickly from the lock screen, and keeping it moving. But as far as reliability, I can't echo the same as you. Face ID in direct sunlight (depending on how it's hitting you) can be very hit or miss. If I wear a balaclava, or shades, that can also be problematic for face ID. The ultrasonic fingerprint reader on the other hand, works in all those situations, and it really doesn't fail. It's also extremely fast. You don't necessarily have to press your finger on it. A quick tap is good enough for it to get a read. I can objectively say it's a good bit more reliable than face id.
I live in the South. I don't need gloves, but when I'm walking the dog or am working outside, I do want to keep my head warm. The only time you need gloves is if temperatures are below freezing.