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ErikGrim

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Wiki updated. New in 1.0.5.3: Siri and AirPods gestures now work.

I’ve promoted playlist and filter persistence to the number 1 and 2 bugs. I’m also seeing a hell of a lot of beachballs, but that’s probably because I’ve never let “Updating artist artwork...” finish on my 100K+ library.
 
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TonyM42

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Just spent a few days trying the Retroactive / ITunes method of running iTunes on Catalina. Didn't really get on with it as it imported a hotpotch of music from whole bunch of past iTunes library files, bringing in many duplicates, and as I've now got my Apple Music working pretty much ok, I finally gave up on the Retroactive/iTunes approach.
One thing I did like though, which I had forgotten about, was the slider control on iTunes which allows you to magnify or diminish the size of your album cover images in the Albums view, so that you are not restricted to the standard row of five albums. I like this feature a lot as I would prefer to see more album covers on a single screen.
What chance Apple will reintroduce that in a future upgrade?
Follow up: Just noticed this is noted on Page 1 of the Wiki. Here’s hoping.....
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Strangely, following my unsatisfactory experience with Retroactive/iTunes I tried reverting to Mojave to regain my old iTunes 'experience'.....it was ok and I was able to rebuild my library properly and reinstate all my images but in other ways I was unhappy with Mojave - things have moved on with Catalina - so reinstalled Catalina, and (lo and behold) my Catalina 'Music' experience is much better than previously - all artwork intact, everything where it should be and a load of duplicates gone. Not sure exactly what happened but I can live with it now.
 
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I anticipate upgrading from macOS Mojave at some point in the somewhat near future. What is the recommended way to do a new installation of macOS Catalina? Would it be to update my Mojave installation so that it does an iTunes to music conversion and then reinstall Catalina and copy over the new library file?

My music library is really the only thing I want to keep in this fresh install. I have created so many playlist with carefully created star ratings that I don’t want that to be wiped out.
 

ErikGrim

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I anticipate upgrading from macOS Mojave at some point in the somewhat near future. What is the recommended way to do a new installation of macOS Catalina? Would it be to update my Mojave installation so that it does an iTunes to music conversion and then reinstall Catalina and copy over the new library file?

My music library is really the only thing I want to keep in this fresh install. I have created so many playlist with carefully created star ratings that I don’t want that to be wiped out.
Your playlists and ratings will be intact. Columns view settings will be wiped out. It’s always a good idea to update from the latest version prior to a new OS update, but it’s not strictly necessary.

Keep in mind all the caveats noted in the wiki post and in this thread. And that iTunes is also an option still even on Catalina (with some minor caveats).
 
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videosoul

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Has anyone found a way to make the "Filter" field always display? Or is this something that anyone else has already been requesting via Feedback Assistant?

 
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Jack Neill

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Why can’t I bulk download albums after I add them to Match?
You can bulk remove download but not the other way around.

Why can’t I edit info on my iPod? Works on El Capitan iTunes.

Manually adding tracks to my iPod is hit or miss. Some days it just won’t do it

Matching albums takes forever.

No gestures while navigating the app.
 
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lfaa

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Noticed today that the latest public beta allows you to two-finger scroll the volume and track bars. Nice improvement.
I had noticed that it was possible with the 10.15.4 release (for the volume control at least) - I had unfortunately to come back to 10.15.3 because of an issue with a non-apple software that didn't work anymore - but I'll do a new test ;)
 

tomtad

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Ah ok I must have not noticed it in the last release, just tried to do the two-finger school in Podcasts and it doesn't work - nice bit of consistency there.
 

lfaa

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Ah ok I must have not noticed it in the last release, just tried to do the two-finger school in Podcasts and it doesn't work - nice bit of consistency there.
I'm again running 10.15.4 on my MB and I confirm I can 2-finger scroll the volume. I had loved this feature on iTunes.
 

ErikGrim

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Why can’t I bulk download albums after I add them to Match?
The offical work around for this is to share a playlist with yourself containing all the tracks you want to download, open the link in the email, open in Music. Then there will be a download icon next to the context menu:
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Is this insane? Yes. In iTunes you can select all the songs and hit Download from the right-click context menu. This is missing. I’ve updated the wiki to include this (and also cleaned it up a bit).
 
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Jack Neill

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The offical work around for this is to share a playlist with yourself containing all the tracks you want to download, open the link in the email, open in Music. Then there will be a download icon next to the context menu:
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Is this insane? Yes. In iTunes you can select all the songs and hit Download from the right-click context menu. This is missing. I’ve updated the wiki to include this (and also cleaned it up a bit).

Thanks for the tip, I'll try it. Do you need Apple Music? I cancelled it because it was 17$ a month and I have a 500GB music collection of my own music. I have basically given up on Music as a tool to manage my library or iPods and I use iTunes on Mojave to manage my library at this point. Music & Books are so gimped compared to the Mojave versions, its just sickening.
 

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I updated to Catalina 10.15 and lost my "look up & data detectors/tap w/three fingers" (System Preferences > Trackpad > Point & Click) to look up words in "dictionary"; all it shows are only siri knowledge, app store and movies. I try to find any portal to change the setting but I can't... If anyone has any idea please help ??

update
I think I posted on the wrong thread...excuse me><
 
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VKondakoff

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Recently I subscribed to Apple music (I have quite big carefully collected local music library). I successfully uploaded my music collection to the Cloud. The only issue that I still have: there are different 'hearted' songs when viewing the same album in local library and in Apple Music.

Here is a quick example (there are many others). This a local library view (two 'liked' songs):

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Here is Apple Music view of the same album (one liked song):

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Why this happens? Is this Music or Apple Music bug? (All the songs have iTunes Match status, so I was thinking they should have identical 'hearted' tracks):

Скриншот 2020-05-13 20.04.05.png
 

VKondakoff

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Why this happens? Is this Music or Apple Music bug?

Further investigations: looks like this issue happens when there are some differences in the names of the local and cloud songs (say, "DMY"<->"Dmy", for example). Still, it seems like a bug, as the files are iTunes matched.
 

RednBlue

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Finally lost my bottle with Catalina and reverted to Mojave just so that I could get iTunes back. I tried the Retroactive approach but that didn't go well, but everything fell nicely into place as soon as Mojave had settled down...all album covers ok and most of the artists images. To be honest in every other way I can't really see any major differences for my uses.
 

WilliamDu

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Jobs brought iTunes to us, Cooke is taking it away.
I'm off Apple hardware and holding on Mojave until somebody there wakes up to
what a disaster their music function has become. Catalina is software degradation
with respect to music and photos, not an upgrade.
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I anticipate upgrading from macOS Mojave at some point in the somewhat near future. What is the recommended way to do a new installation of macOS Catalina? Would it be to update my Mojave installation so that it does an iTunes to music conversion and then reinstall Catalina and copy over the new library file?

My music library is really the only thing I want to keep in this fresh install. I have created so many playlist with carefully created star ratings that I don’t want that to be wiped out.
Don't touch Catalina if you want to preserve your iTunes files and artwork.
Scan the forums for the music disaster.
 

ErikGrim

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TonyM42

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Strangely, following my unsatisfactory experience with Retroactive/iTunes I tried reverting to Mojave to regain my old iTunes 'experience'.....it was ok and I was able to rebuild my library properly and reinstate all my images but in other ways I was unhappy with Mojave - things have moved on with Catalina - so reinstalled Catalina, and (lo and behold) my Catalina 'Music' experience is much better than previously - all artwork intact, everything where it should be and a load of duplicates gone. Not sure exactly what happened but I can live with it now.
 
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