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ErikGrim

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I must be cursed. This is the third time all my songs and playlists have been duplicated. Seems to happen after I use the beta apple music site on windows.
 

Traverse

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My biggest issue with the Music app really is all the little annoying bugs that keep popping up and require you to quit the app to get it back to normal. I noticed these in Catalina and they're not fixed in Big Sur. Two of these include the following if I keep the Music app open for long periods of time or give it moderate use:

  • Eventually double-clicking just stops working. I can double click on a song all I want, but it won't play unless I click the small "play" arrow to the left.
  • Connection to  Music just breaks. Either "Listen Now" just spins or clicking "Show in Apple Music" on an album just flashes and loads nothing.
Everything else is "fine." Even for my relatively complex setup (I manually manage the music files, only download my personal library, keep all  Music in a specific smart playlist that I browse by album to try and keep my personal and cloud library separate, regularly switching between viewing all or only viewing downloaded, etc.)

My biggest feature request as of now would be:
  1. Allow us to set the View All or View Only Downloaded by view. I want my  Music playlist to show my cloud music, but the album view to only show my downloaded music.
  2. Allow us to put  Music playlists into a folder.
  3. Better optimization of space. Using Music.app in a relatively large window results in a lot of wasted space (why is album view restricted to a set number per row?)
  4. Allow smart playlists to reference other smart playlists in iCloud Music Library (not Music.app related, but had to throw it in).
 

RednBlue

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  1. Better optimization of space. Using Music.app in a relatively large window results in a lot of wasted space (why is album view restricted to a set number per row?)
Have asked for this function (which was available in iTunes) via Feedback Assistant on multiple occasions, as have several others here....the function exists in Photos, so why can't it be (re-) introduced in the Music.app...?
 

ErikGrim

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Music has yet again forced me back on iTunes and the difference is night and day: The speed, the responsiveness, the compactness of the UI, the lack of bugs! Every single element is so much better. It launches and is operational in no time (which one would think you ought to expect on a 2020 iMac).

The only thing it appears to be incompatible with are HomePods as default speakers on AppleTV :/
 
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RednBlue

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I previously had made two attempts to go back to iTunes via the Retroactive app, both of which went wrong - without any damage to my Music library although some cover art went missing; however following ErikGrim's post yesterday I tried again and it all went in faultlessly...no lost songs; no lost cover art, just a few artist images taking their time to refresh, which is normal in my experience.
As Erik says it's so much more responsive and has the advantage of scaleable cover art - 9 across in full screen mode on my 24inch Dell monitor.
I'm still using Music to sync with my iPhone, but for day-to-day use iTunes is easily my preference.
 
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ErikGrim

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Not going to lie, losing 6 months of organising hasn't been painless. Especially since my library was split across two harddrives. But it'll all be worth it not having to deal with the shambles that "Music" has become. Just the endless beachballs alone on a $5000 computer! What an ignominious end to iTunes. :(
 

ErikGrim

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Things I never appreciated about iTunes before spending 6 months with Music:
  1. Selecting View by Song for the first time on a playlist adapts the column layout from your main song view!
 
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RednBlue

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Makes you question the worth of reporting perceived faults in Music to Apple through feedback assistant when there's a perfectly acceptable - indeed better - alternative in iTunes.
 

ErikGrim

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Makes you question the worth of reporting perceived faults in Music to Apple through feedback assistant when there's a perfectly acceptable - indeed better - alternative in iTunes.
It likely won't last forever. There might be future features like HomePods as default speakers for Apple TV that won't work (ex. new combined HomePod / AppleTV coming). And frankly Music is an embarrassment for Apple, especially as a front end to their flagship service. It needs to be fixed (or at this stage, nuked and replaced).
 

derekww

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The experience of upgrading to an M1 Mac running Big Sur has been overwhelmingly positive in all aspects from hardware to software, except for Music! It's the only part of my new Mac experience that is negative. In my previous Mac launching iTunes means having beautiful classical music coming out of my sound system. Now I dread clicking anything in Music, worrying I would lose album artwork, lose or corrupt files, etc. Apple really took the pleasure of music listening away. I know this post is not constructive but I just have to rant.
 

cubbie5150

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Man, pretty much nothing but issues with Music since first moving to Big Sur @ 11.2's release.

I even nuked my old iTunes library (music files & library stored on external HD) and reimported into Music under a new "Music" folder on my external HD. I mostly used iTunes (and Music) to manage my library because 99% of my music listening is done on portable devices. Anyway, I've discovered that many files are "not located" (or whatever)...I have to search for them and manually re-add them to the library database. Man, what a waste of time.
 
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Airsculpture

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I’ve installed both on Catalina and Big Sur and not had one single issue or lost file

Issues generally are with M1 machines not Intel
 

DICK_CHENEY

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Noticed earlier that the equalizer settings sometimes aren't being retained even after just pausing a track. The drop down menu still shows the same EQ setting in place, but it's no longer actually active. Switching to another EQ setting and then switching back to the EQ setting I actually want brings it back.

At least until I pause or close the app once again. Pathetic.
 

mikzn

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You can't drag and drop to change the order of the Playing Next? WTF

Can other people do this or is it just me?

I have see others post this issue too . . .

FWIW - I can drag a song to the "up next list" and it works for me - Big Sur 11.3 with Music 1.1.4.110 - am using song view / column view - dragging the song changes the list to indicate "Manually Added" and I can drag the song to any position in the "up next list"

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Traverse

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New bug - far worse than the others. Music.app is occasionally skipping to the next track mid-song. Not sure if is wonky bluetooth signal from the AirPods or what. Quitting the app didn't fix it. I have just restarted and will see.
 

derekww

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New bug - far worse than the others. Music.app is occasionally skipping to the next track mid-song. Not sure if is wonky bluetooth signal from the AirPods or what. Quitting the app didn't fix it. I have just restarted and will see.
for me, this skipping sometimes happens but only with mp3 files, and they always skip at around the 4 minute mark. :/
 

DICK_CHENEY

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Still total ass on 11.4 beta. Only different I've noticed thus far is that the app does not fully quit when hitting the X. Other than that, last view is not retained, nor are EQ settings. Genuinely shocked at the regression that has taken place with this.
 
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