i just got an M1 so retroactive stopped working and i was forced to finally switch from itunes to music and reading this thread and your replies has made me clinically depressed
god i hate Music, its just so bad...
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Music - Missing Features, Bugs, Issues & Troubleshooting
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god i hate Music, its just so bad...
Two years later and I don't think we can even consider it a working app. I'll be holding back upgrading my 2020 iMac until Retroactive supports the M-series.
For people interested in why iTunes no longer works on M1, here are the technical details:
github.com
Unable to get iTunes to work. Giving error before opening. · Issue #187 · cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive
I just tried Retroactive for the first time and I can't get iTunes to work. I've gone through the install process, which was fine, then tried opening it after that but it just gives a big error. I'...
github.com
Music.app sours the whole Mac experience. Other apps like Pages, Numbers, Messages, Notes, Safari, etc. are a pleasure to use. That's the Mac experience we love. Music is frustration. Apple needs to put someone on the Music team that actually use it to play local music day to day. No need to wait for bug reports because anyone who uses it to collect albums, manage cover art, playlists, customize views, ratings--features commonly used by music collectors--will find bugs and glitches all day long.
Yep
I've been testing software in various industries since 1994.
I wouldn't have signed off on it.
I really dont get it. When it debuted I noticed a plethora of issues, and fast forward to today and they're all still there. Just horrible UX.
I noticed yesterday that if you cmd+L to go to your current song, it of course brings up the page for that album. If you hit that 'current song' command 10 times, it creates 10 "tabs" (layers?) of the same page. Hit back and it just does nothing.
Plus, no swipe back or mouse-back functionality?
Plus plus, wtf is "Made for you" and why is it an empty page? I know "Update Genius" is an option in File/Library, but Genius Mixes arent even in Music anymore 🤡
/rant
new error, DOUBLE clicking 'Made for You' apparently plays the first song in your Library in alphabetical order, despite the no-personal-mixes error. In my case, it's Take on Me by Ah Ha, and I feel like I'm being trolled by Apple
edit: it plays Take on Me if I double click on any section, regardless if it's alphabetical. Genres? Plays it, despite being under 'P' for Pop. Recently added? No, we're playing this song from 1985, **** you
edit: it plays Take on Me if I double click on any section, regardless if it's alphabetical. Genres? Plays it, despite being under 'P' for Pop. Recently added? No, we're playing this song from 1985, **** you
Your screenshot sums it all up for me. So much to unpack there besides the obvious missing content. My complaint is the lack of utilized space. The progress bar at the top doesn’t show a time stamp or anything. The play button controls in the top left could be more dynamic and spread out a little more instead of being all jumbled together.I really dont get it. When it debuted I noticed a plethora of issues, and fast forward to today and they're all still there. Just horrible UX.
I noticed yesterday that if you cmd+L to go to your current song, it of course brings up the page for that album. If you hit that 'current song' command 10 times, it creates 10 "tabs" (layers?) of the same page. Hit back and it just does nothing.
Plus, no swipe back or mouse-back functionality?
Plus plus, wtf is "Made for you" and why is it an empty page? I know "Update Genius" is an option in File/Library, but Genius Mixes arent even in Music anymore 🤡
/rant
Also, there’s been seemingly little interest in Apple making sure very very large Music (and iTunes) libraries work well. I’ve got over 75,000 tracks and it’s still slow as molasses just like iTunes always was.
::Correction:: I've got over 83,000 tracks
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I have about 41,000 tracks together with 900 movies and 850 TV shows and iTunes runs like a dream. Always has. Podcasts a only small but Audiobooks
Music and TV apps do not compare in UX.
Music and TV apps do not compare in UX.
To be honest though, the current state of affairs is pretty much what I expected would happen when Apple announced they’d be getting rid of iTunes (which is why I wasn't in favor of it even though the concept of splitting it up into multiple apps makes sense to me). Actually, I probably expected worse. Still disappointing but not exactly surprising.
I really wish there was a plug-in system. I'd love too get album art for all my non-iTunes Store albums, get lyrics for my songs, add visualizations. While Music has a "Get Album Art" feature, it's awful. It's more miss than hit. Either no luck finding the cover art, or gets a completely wrong cover. I'd love for the option to look in different places, as well as look for the actual album name, not just song name & artist.
I also miss being able to combine tracks when importing CDs. Some of my CDs don't have a streaming/online version.
I also miss being able to combine tracks when importing CDs. Some of my CDs don't have a streaming/online version.
It also needs a complete rebuild from the ground up. I'm faintly hopeful it will be one of the new features annouced next month at WWDC.
Your faint hope is more hope than I have. It's been this long and they can't even address issues - I can't imagine they would rebuild it.
IMHO - this has been broken for a long time even with iTunes for many versions back to Sierra and maybe even before that as Apple tried to make thier music streaming work within iTunes along side of the local library files many of us have built up over the years.
There are some Scripts / Plug-Ins at Doug's Apple Scripts that might be in line with what you are looking for and my understand many have been updated for the "Music App" Big Sur - in addition to the iTunes version
Many of my imported CD's have lost the Artwork and apple no longer provides artwork (Gracenotes Data Base) for many of my CD's - so I usually just go to All Music or even better Discogs and grab a good quality image of the artwork and manually add the image in Music (can be done for the album in one shot) - get info
Once this is done manually it seems to embed the Artwork permanently - but I also save the image in the music file folder so I can use the "Show in finder" and quickly repair any lost artwork with the saved image in the future
Both All Music and Discogs are great sites for CD and Vinyl Album info and Artwork
I do the same as even when itunes/music would find proper artwork, the artwork is not always the best quailty. I prefer to find my own, download it and keep a copy of it in case it gets lost or replaced by Apple. Best site I have found for high-quality artwork is https://www.albumartexchange.com/
Cool. Just created an Alfred web search command for that site; works great.
God, no. I have zero faith in Apple's abilities to create something better from scratch.
This is literally why I always poo poo'd the people wanting iTunes to be broken up: BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR
I guess there's a sliver of hope that they do something with Music. I'm surprised that the web beta is still....in beta. And of course, it is no less functional as the desktop app (and designed identically). Both should have the beta tag on them.
Apparently on Tuesday they are announcing a hi-fi Music subscription and new air pods. You'd think if they are working on the service and the hardware that goes with it, that they would at least put some effort into the apps to get them to help sell the products...
Apparently on Tuesday they are announcing a hi-fi Music subscription and new air pods. You'd think if they are working on the service and the hardware that goes with it, that they would at least put some effort into the apps to get them to help sell the products...
I'm hoping with @Lvivske. There's enough competition in the music space that maybe with this upgrade they'll give some attention to a better Music app (both iOS and macOS) in an imminent release. They feel like they're way overdue. They've had some additions, which have served to make things worse, usability and GUI-wise.
apparently the release candidate for 11.4 has the new music updates in it, has anyone tried? ANYTHING better?
Apple Seeds macOS Big Sur 11.4 Release Candidate to Developers - MacRumors
edit: someone in another thread said theres no music update directly, just getting it supported for the june launch
Apple Seeds macOS Big Sur 11.4 Release Candidate to Developers - MacRumors
edit: someone in another thread said theres no music update directly, just getting it supported for the june launch
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Installed RC 11.4. Don't know if it's just my imagination but playing some old Steely Dan songs through basic Dell sound-bar and stereo separation sounds a lot better to me...probably just wishful thinking.....
Not for me.
Equalizer still resets almost every time the app is closed and opened. View options never hold. You can sort by artist, album, whatever you want to sort by, turn album art viewing off, and once you close and re open Music, everything displays as default sorting once again, album art viewing returns as well.
I'm going to spend some time with using Foobar as my player in Ubuntu through Parallels, and see what kind of performance hit there is. I don't want to jump through the hoops yet to install the Windows ARM version and hope that iTunes works in it. Has anyone had success with Windows ARM in Parallels playing with itunes?
Really, really embarassing that such basic functionality is just a wreck. Moving to the M1 has been wonderful in almost every single other way than playing music, and the experience has most certainly been soured.
I'll keep trying new betas when available. Hopefully some of you get lucky with your issues being resolved. Might just go buy a damn CD player!!!