That sound you hear is the sound of the entire US gritting it's teeth!
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That sound you hear is the sound of the entire US gritting it's teeth!
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That sound you hear is the sound of the entire US gritting it's teeth!
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... or just wait a bit ....
No one is saying it's the end of the world to have to use WiFi and/or iTunes on a computer. Just pointing out my discover of an OS that reeks of limitations at nearly every corner.
I've never had a prompt on Android telling me I cannot use data to download an app because it's too big. Might be coincidence.
Those 1G cellular downloads you're talking about would cost $10 worth of data for most.
Does anyone really like that?
I have a 300MB limit with AT&T. Not going to pay AT&T crazy data prices.
I have an unlimited 4G data card. Download whatever I want on my iPhone.
I have unlimited data.
And some of those without unlimited wouldn't mind biting the bullet if they really needed to download a certain app on the go. And that proof is in the many jailbroken downloads of unrestrictor tweaks
That's why choice is good vs having a personal baby sitter.
This is the option you have on Android to load large apps over 3g: (most of you may have already seen this)
Even that bugs me and I wish it could be disabled as when I install an app onto my N4 via the browser on my PC, the size restrictions stops it from loading over 3g by default. I have to stop and re initialise the download once I'm on my phone.
A minor PITA but it is a cash saver for those on limited data plans.
Whenever I have a large app to update on the iPhone, I just enable WiFi tether to my Nexus and update on the fly. Not an option for everyone I do understand.
Even that bugs me and I wish it could be disabled as when I install an app onto my N4 via the browser on my PC, the size restrictions stops it from loading over 3g by default. I have to stop and re initialise the download once I'm on my phone.
A minor PITA but it is a cash saver for those on limited data plans.
Whenever I have a large app to update on the iPhone, I just enable WiFi tether to my Nexus and update on the fly. Not an option for everyone I do understand.
Another thing I've noticed in the android vs ios battle. When sending a text message when reception is a bit ropey and it fails the first time, I believe that android will try again automatically, whereas with ios it awaits user input to try again.
Hardly a big deal, but it can be useful in some places where I play sport and leave my phone in my bag on the floor, and strangely the signal seems to be better down there, so unsent messages get sent through while I'm away from the phone.
Hardly a big deal, but it can be useful in some places where I play sport and leave my phone in my bag on the floor, and strangely the signal seems to be better down there, so unsent messages get sent through while I'm away from the phone.
I've never seen this. I've always only seen a prompt saying are you sure you want to continue downloading over network, warning me there may be overage charges, etc. Then I can either press download over WiFi or continue downloading through network data.
Just curious, what's the max size in which Android doesn't allow you to download over network data?
EDIT: Never mind above. Somehow missed the "Proceed" button in that screen shot.
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I noticed this. It bugs me a little too.
Also, people keep talking about how wonderful iMessage is across all platforms. It's so incredibly buggy it's ridiculous. I get repeated messages, or sometimes old messages from last week re-appearing depending if I'm iMessaging on comp or iPHone or iPad.
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Couch, I think your confusing yourself!
That image is the polite warning, advising you it is a large download and recommending you to use wifi. If you click "proceed" in the bottom right of the image, it lets you download over the mobile network. (Unless you ticked the "Download using wifi" button.)
It could be a regional thing but I am able to load at whatever size they are if I remove the tick in the box on the screenshot (As i have above).
The only time it bugs me is when I set up a download from my ChromeBook or PC and it isn't downloading as it wants WiFi.
I have it setup with different emails to avoid that, @me.com for the mac, @icloud.com for the ipad and only my phone number for the phone.
imessage is a pain if you try to have everything sync.
I have unlimited data in my Nexus 4 too, but I'm very aware of where the speed throttling kicks in -- I consider that to be the effective limit. Unlimited cellular data plans in the US are really unlimited in name only -- most seem run $10 per GB of the high speed data - hopefully that will continue to improve.
NYC? - how hard is it to find a wifi connection?
This is why I laughed the first time you responded to my list.
Again, see what queuing really means in the Android player. Try iTunes, too. If Playlists is true queuing, please explain why Apple added a queuing feature to the latest iTunes. It already had playlists, why bother adding a queuing feature?
As for the keyboard, suit yourself. Again, what you're willing to settle for and accept in iOS is pretty low. The day you want real long-presses, you'll find them with Android keyboards. If you don't want it, suit yourself.
Oh, if only it were hard to find issuse with iOS. If only. Nearly the entire OS (without jailbreak) reeks of limitations.
You mean like how Android misorders simple group messages from my family? It was clear I was receiving them out of order and I'm simply using the stock app.
Its possible that because I don't try and sync all of my devices on imessage (being that I have my iPad mini with me most of the time, the redundant dinging and messages would irritate the hell out of me) I've never had an issue with iMessage - works like a charm.
As for the syncing exactly correctly across platforms? It's about as reliable as the stock group messaging on my N4 I suppose.....
Oh and no, my iPhone won't keep trying to send a text message. My N4 will however, continue on and on and on, killing my battery in the process while possibly never sending the message.
I know this is a thread about how the iPhone 5 is working for you, but you keep making it seem like there are only issues with iOS and none with Android. Objectivity remember?
I hate that about iMessage. There have been times that I have responded to an old message that appeared to be new.
Them: wanna have dinner over ashley's friday?
Me: sounds good to me
Them: can we take roxy? (from the day before)
Me: i don't think that is a good idea
Them: wtf? make up ur mind!
Michael
Ok - if you had been sued by idiotic morons who didn't know about their data cap and tried to blame it on you, I think you'd be a little more lenient of this practice.
I'd love to know what percentage of apps actually fall OVER this 50MB limit....I don't run into this issue often and I don't even have wifi at work.
Apple is simply trying to "save their ass" - given the number of lawsuits they deal with between people complaining they've been charged crazy overages when they stupidly restore their devices from iCloud over cellular (downloading EVERYTHING under 50mb) and those who's kids run up crazy bills for in-app purchases (they at least have control over the app store and can give refunds), I don't fault them for being overly cautious.
Again, the number of times I've wanted to download an app over 50 mb and had to "wait" until I was on wifi I can count on one hand....
Very hard to find one that's not secure. And forget about using Starbucks or any public wifi, cause it'll timeout over and over.
Agreed. Open wifi everywhere is a quaint memory (if it ever actually came to be). Even if I am at a restaurant or other establishment that has free wifi the speed and/reliability often suck (3G is often faster, let alone 4G).
Michael
I don't know of any lawsuit towards Apple or any carrier that stems from specifically accidental over usage. Warning messages/pop-ups and manually confirming to continue is good enough. I don't see any Android phone manufacturer implementing the this restriction like iOS does, and yet life goes on.
Apple is overly cautious, yes your right about that. But their main focus from day one was to keep iPhone users in a trouble free environment. For reasons of maintaining a solid reputation and keep trouble calls at a minimum.
You mean like how Android misorders simple group messages from my family? It was clear I was receiving them out of order and I'm simply using the stock app.
Its possible that because I don't try and sync all of my devices on imessage (being that I have my iPad mini with me most of the time, the redundant dinging and messages would irritate the hell out of me) I've never had an issue with iMessage - works like a charm.
As for the syncing exactly correctly across platforms? It's about as reliable as the stock group messaging on my N4 I suppose.....
Oh and no, my iPhone won't keep trying to send a text message. My N4 will however, continue on and on and on, killing my battery in the process while possibly never sending the message.
I know this is a thread about how the iPhone 5 is working for you, but you keep making it seem like there are only issues with iOS and none with Android. Objectivity remember?
Never said android was perfect nor problem free. Ever. Far from it. I've created threads about it even.
And my understanding of android messages is they it doesn't resend until you get service. I could be wrong about this but I've never seen a failed sent message draining my battery from retrying. When it gets service it sends the message. Some people might call that intuitive. Some people might call having to resend by yourself on iOS manual. Kind of not very advance sounding.
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I've had messages that are a week old reappear. I rather use whatsapp.
You must have internet at home. I generally do my large downloads on the lowest cost option. I don't see much reason not to...
I don't know about NYC specifically, but I spend a lot of time within 20 miles of Manhattan, and there's no shortage of open hotspots there.
I'm in Austin now, and it's really hard to get a breakfast taco, have your tires changed, or do your laundry, without having good wifi available --- honest!
It's not like I download a large app often using data. But the few times that I might really need to, it's best not to be restricted.