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pdqgp

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Thank you, your Note speaks for all Notes.

Perfect.

You can put away the Sarcasm as it doesn't help your correct an incorrect point. My Configuration of shutting off animations and running Nova Launcher speaks for MY Note not all Notes. If you or others choose to not configure them the same way, perfect. Enjoy the delays and results.

Your point right back at you, that Dude in the video....his Note doesn't speak for all Notes either. :rolleyes:

Carry on.

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I buy and prefer Apple products..... because I feel it is the best experience for me.

100% respectable point.

Like you, I have and do use both iOS and Android devices.

Oh, and for those who are saying lack of customization in the Control Center is a negative, what would you put in there that isn't already there? Or are we simply saying "choice is better just because, even though no one uses them".

Can't speak to control center on iOS much but on my Android Phone, I the three things use most in the way of widgets are:

Hot Spot Toggle
Redirect Call Widget
Screen Timeout Toggle
 

Vetvito

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You can put away the Sarcasm as it doesn't help your correct an incorrect point. My Configuration of shutting off animations and running Nova Launcher speaks for MY Note not all Notes. If you or others choose to not configure them the same way, perfect. Enjoy the delays and results.

Your point right back at you, that Dude in the video....his Note doesn't speak for all Notes either. :rolleyes:

Carry on.

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100% respectable point.

Like you, I have and do use both iOS and Android devices.



Can't speak to control center on iOS much but on my Android Phone, I the three things use most in the way of widgets are:

Hot Spot Toggle
Redirect Call Widget
Screen Timeout Toggle


Perfect you're running a different setup. Android lags, lags like crazy, and this is coming from a Android fan.

I'll take the video evidence over your word any day.
 

pdqgp

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Perfect you're running a different setup.

No, I'm running the same set up, just configured properly. Anyone who buys a Samsung and actually "likes" touch wiz.....is more rare than a white Unicorn. :rolleyes:

You remind me of the guy at the track who said his car bogs and kicks and he can't get it through his head that traction control/stability control and safety systems need disabled to race. He also has zero clue that torque management computers on automatics need to be flashed to turn it on/off. Otherwise, my same car runs way faster and smoother. He just hasn't configured his properly.

Android lags, lags like crazy, and this is coming from a Android fan.
I'll take the video evidence over your word any day.

So when I get home I'll come back to you with a video so you as a NON USER referencing his lady's phone can feel better and know that you were proven wrong by an android USER. Androids don't lag when configured for speed vs animation nation glitz.
 

Vetvito

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No, I'm running the same set up, just configured properly. Anyone who buys a Samsung and actually "likes" touch wiz.....is more rare than a white Unicorn. :rolleyes:

You remind me of the guy at the track who said his car bogs and kicks and he can't get it through his head that traction control/stability control and safety systems need disabled to race. He also has zero clue that torque management computers on automatics need to be flashed to turn it on/off. Otherwise, my same car runs way faster and smoother. He just hasn't configured his properly.



So when I get home I'll come back to you with a video so you as a NON USER referencing his lady's phone can feel better and know that you were proven wrong by an android USER.


That makes no sense. You shouldn't have to configure a phone to run properly. Normal people don't do that.

We are not at a track. Sorry, that doesn't relate. You shouldn't have to do anything to make a phone not lag.
 

pdqgp

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That makes no sense. You shouldn't have to configure a phone to run properly. Normal people don't do that.

It runs properly without configuring it. The dude in that video.....no one flips through flip book like that either. To your point, you shouldn't flip crazy stupid fast through flipbook like that. Normal people don't do that. :rolleyes:

To those that say their photo albums lag; here's a pro-tip...don't force-close out the program. That's like saying my PC lags and takes forever to turn on (don't shut it down, put it to sleep dummy) Android manages RAM great. There's no need to ever close programs. However, configure it like I have an it won't have said milliseconds of delay so it's a moot point.

We are not at a track. Sorry, that doesn't relate. You shouldn't have to do anything to make a phone not lag.

Are we in a Urinary Olympic Event over fractions of a second here? Yes. Then We're at the track.....

What you're calling lag is from the animations and launcher that is not designed to be ripping through pages with milliseconds being measured. It's design for smoother transitions and animations in normal use.

If you're into that then scroll down fast on any iOS device using Safari and side by side with an Android using Chrome or Firefox. Which one lags and stalls then? Why? It's by design. So if the shoe fits one it fits the other. I shouldn't have to tolerate the lag of a slow browser on iOS. <insert huffy voice>

....off to complain that my CTS-V is soft and doesn't handle like a Lotus Elise...
 
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Vetvito

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It runs properly without configuring it. The dude in that video.....no one flips through flip book like that either. To your point, you shouldn't flip crazy stupid fast through flipbook like that. Normal people don't do that. :rolleyes: To those that say their photo albums lag; here's a pro-tip...don't force-close out the program. That's like saying my PC lags when I turn it on (don't shut it down, put it to sleep dummy) Android manages RAM great. There's no need to ever close programs. However, configure it like I have an it won't have said milliseconds of delay so it's a moot point.



Are we in a Urinary Olympic Event over fractions of a second here? Yes. Then We're at the track.....

What you're calling lag is from the animations and launcher that is not designed to be ripping through pages with milliseconds being measured. It's design for smoother transitions and animations in normal use.

If you're into that then scroll down fast on any iOS device using Safari and side by side with an Android using Chrome or Firefox. Which one lags and stalls then? Why? It's by design. So if the shoe fits one it fits the other. I shouldn't have to tolerate the lag of a slow browser on iOS. <insert huffy voice>

....off to complain that my CTS-V is soft and doesn't handle like a Lotus Elise...


I can show you dozens of other videos, yet I guarantee you'll say the exact same thing.

We will just have to agree to disagree.
 

pdqgp

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I can show you dozens of other videos, yet I guarantee you'll say the exact same thing.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

No need. I'm going to show you one tonight and you'll see what I mean. Note 3 with Zero Lag and smooth as can be just as described.

Again, I don't need to see yet another person doing things wrong to show me they are doing it wrong. In the end, I really don't care, it's their phone and it's up to them to learn to use it properly for what they are looking for out of it.

If you're looking for the fastest possible speed, then turn off all three animation settings and ditch touch wiz. No secret sauce and no need to post links to dozens of videos showing it working. My suggestion, get off Youtube.com and go configure your ladys phone to run fast.
 

Vetvito

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No need. I'm going to show you one tonight and you'll see what I mean. Note 3 with Zero Lag and smooth as can be just as described.

Again, I don't need to see yet another person doing things wrong to show me they are doing it wrong. In the end, I really don't care, it's their phone and it's up to them to learn to use it properly for what they are looking for out of it.

If you're looking for the fastest possible speed, then turn off all three animation settings and ditch touch wiz. No secret sauce and no need to post links to dozens of videos showing it working. My suggestion, get off Youtube.com and go configure your ladys phone to run fast.


See what I mean...

Hand claps for you sir
 

pdqgp

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See what I mean...

yes, you Noted (pun intended) that "you'll say the exact same thing"

because again, showing 14 different youtube videos whereby users madly flip through flipbook trying to cause a stock phone with touch wiz and animations turned on lagging is like running a stock SRT8 at the track with street tires and all safety systems on. If you are going to test for speed then configure it for speed...put the proper tires on it and disable the nanny controls.

and I called you and said no, I'll SHOW you what I mean and will gladly put your dozen or so videos to shame showing how to configure your ladys android to actually run fast. No need to pull other peoples videos or talk about my friends phone like you do. Again, put down google searches and facebook videos and go fix her phone.
 
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Oohara

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Guys, I think it's important to distinguish between Flipboard and My Magazine here.

My Magazine is a part of the Samsung skin. As such, any honest and experienced Android-user would know to not use it as basis for a general statement on lag. Even opening the camera or the gallery in TouchWiz lags a bit, on most units. Even on most Note 3's that I've tried (privately owned/well set up - not in stores). This however does not mean that the Note 3 lags in general - but those parts of TouchWiz are its weak spot.

Flipboard is different. This I can use even on my old Note 2 (non-rooted) without any significant lag. Of course the app will need a few seconds to load in the new info (I have background update off), but the page flipping is totally smooth and the pictures load quickly.

However, that does not mean that I can expect to flip through either app at the speed the guy does in the video, and expect that there won't be any stutters at all. That's like hoping you could open 100 tabs in chrome in ten seconds and have them all load separate webpages without any lag whatsoever. Flipboard, in both these guises, does after all load quite a bit of data, and from many different sources too.

Bottom line, if you accept that video as a reference for the general state of lag in Android, and the result seriously disappoints you - then I really think you're better off simply forgetting about Android and switching over to iOS.
 

pdqgp

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Bottom line, if you accept that video as a reference for the general state of lag in Android, and the result seriously disappoints you - then I really think you're better off simply forgetting about Android and switching over to iOS.

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. Thus Vito should just stick to telling his lady that he can't fix her phone but there's a guy on the internet that would be happy to do what he can't. :D
 

Oohara

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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. Thus Vito should just stick to telling his lady that he can't fix her phone but there's a guy on the internet that would be happy to do what he can't. :D

Lol, now you made have cravings for sweet n sour chicken :p

But yeah, I read a few posts again and found what appears to be at the core of this dilemma:

That makes no sense. You shouldn't have to configure a phone to run properly. Normal people don't do that.

We are not at a track. Sorry, that doesn't relate. You shouldn't have to do anything to make a phone not lag.

No, normal iOS users don't do that. Android users do it regularly. While enjoying it too!

If you don't find it at all appealing to tear down your engine and polish all the nuts and bolts to make the thing really purr like a kitten, or at least change the oil every now and then, then why stay with Android? From what you say in the quote above, it sounds like you'd be far happier on iOS. And there's nothing wrong with that! Save yourself (and your lady too!) some trouble and buy an iPhone today. :)
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Oh, and for those who are saying lack of customization in the Control Center is a negative, what would you put in there that isn't already there?

I've used power toggles....there are things like flashlight, camera and calculator that aren't in power toggles.

There's also a bunch of random toggles in PT that I never used. So my question is - what percentage of people actually uses the toggles that can't be found in CC?

Or are we simply saying "choice is better just because, even though no one uses them".

You must have not used Power Toggles in a long time. What you mentioned in this quote is false.
 

pdqgp

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That makes no sense. You shouldn't have to configure a phone to run properly. Normal people don't do that.

But yeah, I read a few posts again and found what appears to be at the core of this dilemma:

I agree. What he doesn't realize is that normal people aren't splitting hairs over milliseconds of response time on most phones. Those that do and want said speed improvements do configure their phones and android allows that to be done in a number of ways including the changing of launchers, photo albums, music players, etc. He's refusing to accept the configuration capability because he knows no better. Being unable is all he knows. He admitted to not being a current android owner which makes sense given he quotes videos and his girlfriends phones.

By his logic the iPhone shouldn't be called a smart phone because it can't be automated to do a number of the things I have my phone set up to do based on location services and llama
 

Vetvito

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Lol, now you made have cravings for sweet n sour chicken :p



But yeah, I read a few posts again and found what appears to be at the core of this dilemma:







No, normal iOS users don't do that. Android users do it regularly. While enjoying it too!



If you don't find it at all appealing to tear down your engine and polish all the nuts and bolts to make the thing really purr like a kitten, or at least change the oil every now and then, then why stay with Android? From what you say in the quote above, it sounds like you'd be far happier on iOS. And there's nothing wrong with that! Save yourself (and your lady too!) some trouble and buy an iPhone today. :)


I have a iPhone 6, old Lumia 920, and a Nexus.

In enjoy tech, Im just honest enough to call a spade a spade.

Sorry for not enjoying tinkering with a phone. It's not just touchwiz that lags or hiccups. Sorry that's just the honest truth.

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I agree. What he doesn't realize is that normal people aren't splitting hairs over milliseconds of response time on most phones. Those that do and want said speed improvements do configure their phones and android allows that to be done in a number of ways including the changing of launchers, photo albums, music players, etc. He's refusing to accept the configuration capability because he knows no better. Being unable is all he knows.



He admitted to not being a current android owner which makes sense given he quotes videos and his girlfriends phones. Maybe I should right reviews on cars I've never owned :eek:


Smh, thanks for assuming. Maybe you can give lottery numbers too?
 

Oohara

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I have a iPhone 6, old Lumia 920, and a Nexus.

In enjoy tech, Im just honest enough to call a spade a spade.

Sorry for not enjoying tinkering with a phone. It's not just touchwiz that lags or hiccups. Sorry that's just the honest truth.
It doesn't sound like you enjoy anything but complaining, honestly. If you choose to live in a world where flipping through My Magazine as fast as you can isn't supposed to cause any lag whatsoever, then that's your choice. All I can say to you then is - have a nice life! :) Although I suspect you won't.
 

Vetvito

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It doesn't sound like you enjoy anything but complaining, honestly. If you choose to live in a world where flipping through My Magazine as fast as you can isn't supposed to cause any lag whatsoever, then that's your choice. All I can say to you then is - have a nice life! :) Although I suspect you won't.


Smh, I seen why I don't frequent these forums as much.

That was only one reference.

I didn't complain either, as stated I'm an Android fan. I used to build roms on XDA, I didn't even mention anything negative but either way that doesn't matter.
 

pdqgp

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Smh, thanks for assuming. Maybe you can give lottery numbers too?

I'm chose to assert an opinion based on the information you provide. Call it an assumption if it makes you feel good but I'm coming back to you with statements based on what you're providing us. Feel free to provide more details up front so we can make more accurate and fulfilling statements. If not, deal with assumptions being made. You can control that.

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Smh, I seen why I don't frequent these forums as much. That was only one reference.

I didn't complain either, as stated I'm an Android fan. I used to build roms on XDA, I didn't even mention anything negative but either way that doesn't matter.

You've made multiple incorrect and negatively slanted comments, pointed us to ridiculous third-party videos, dismissed suggestions that fix your problems and in turn tossed in quite a bit of sarcasm and offer no potential solutions of your own let alone asked anyone else for thoughts that could help. Are you really surprised that someone sees you as complaining and likely a negative person? I'm not surprised you spend most of your day behind a computer programing. Sounds like it's time to step away from the keyboard.
 
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Lloydbm41

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You must have not used Power Toggles in a long time. What you mentioned in this quote is false.

It is to bad that Launcher got pulled. The two settings toggles I would like to see in CC I have in Launcher Widget. WiFi Hotspot and battery usage stats.

If someone else creates another Launcher better pay for the Pro version!
 

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tbayrgs

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It is to bad that Launcher got pulled. The two settings toggles I would like to see in CC I have in Launcher Widget. WiFi Hotspot and battery usage stats.

If someone else creates another Launcher better pay for the Pro version!

Lloyd--I see you have TV shows in your calendar. You might want to check out TeeVee. It costs a few bucks but has a widget that'll do exactly what you have in your calendar.
 

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Lloyd--I see you have TV shows in your calendar. You might want to check out TeeVee. It costs a few bucks but has a widget that'll do exactly what you have in your calendar.

I have TV Show Tracker 3 that also creates a widget, however it is redundant for me. I have TV Show Favs on Android that automatically populates my calendar with all the metadata for all the shows i follow. I have not found an app on ios that can match what the Android version does. Unless the one you mentioned does?
 

tbayrgs

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I have TV Show Tracker 3 that also creates a widget, however it is redundant for me. I have TV Show Favs on Android that automatically populates my calendar with all the metadata for all the shows i follow. I have not found an app on ios that can match what the Android version does. Unless the one you mentioned does?

No, and now understand why you have it set up this way, so that it's viewable across all devices. TeeVee just allows you to specify what shows your interested in, let's you set up notifications and as mentioned, populates a widget on iOS.
 

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No, and now understand why you have it set up this way, so that it's viewable across all devices. TeeVee just allows you to specify what shows your interested in, let's you set up notifications and as mentioned, populates a widget on iOS.

Yep, exactly why I am still using the Android app. But i haven't stop searching for an equivalent version on ios. The auto-population of the metadata into a specified calendar seems to be an issue with ios for some reason? I dont know why.
 

jrswizzle

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You must have not used Power Toggles in a long time. What you mentioned in this quote is false.

I used it a few months ago....what did I say that was false?

It's always nice to follow up a statement like that with some supporting information.

I like to learn and if I missed something I appreciate being shown the things I've missed.

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No, and now understand why you have it set up this way, so that it's viewable across all devices. TeeVee just allows you to specify what shows your interested in, let's you set up notifications and as mentioned, populates a widget on iOS.

Now this I would be interested in.....thanks!
 

kerrikins

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A: They're used to it
B: Their friends/family use iPhones
C: They are simply Apple fans

I really can't see anyone buying the iPhone 6 and truly believing it's the best experience that's currently available...

I'll add more thoughts as I think of them, but what do you guys think?

If you look at integration, customer service, ease of use, slickness of the UI, professional apps, etc, imo it absolutely is the best experience available.

It all depends on the priorities of the person evaluating the device and what they need/want from a phone. If Android gave me a compelling reason to switch, I would, but so far things like build quality, customer service, the clunkiness of Android, etc, all keep me away and I've seriously evaluated different devices like the HTC One and the LG G3 to see if switching is feasible.
 
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