@Neil J. Squillante Did you wind up getting an MBP14nano? If so, how's your experience on it with smaller text?I stopped by my local Apple Store to answer my own question. I looked at the same web article and the same Word document on both the 14-inch MacBook Pro and Studio Display as my main concern is text. I set brightness to the middle range. The nano display on the MacBook Pro looked sharper than the nano display on the Studio Display. Perhaps it's because of the pixel density (254 ppi versus 216 ppi). Both do an impressive job of eliminating the mirror effect that overhead lights or sunlight can cause. I'm in the market for both so I'm leaning towards the nano display for the MacBook Pro and the standard option for the Studio Display since I don't have a glare problem at my desk.
How easy is it to clean? Most matte displays which you clean often get more matte like its cloudy over time. I guess thats because stuff built up on the surface on a microscopic level.
I brought in the cloth that came with my sunglasses to test in the store, and it did a fine job of easily removing smudges. Certainly didn't seem any harder to clean than the glossy version.
This is my experience, including with the iPad Pro Nano TextureI brought in the cloth that came with my sunglasses to test in the store, and it did a fine job of easily removing smudges. Certainly didn't seem any harder to clean than the glossy version.
Exactly this. I am totally in love with my 14" nano texture in black. Getting the 2TB model has been surprisingly liberating- now also using Parallels to also have the flexibility of running Windows for a few apps and gaming.Swung by the local Apple Store. Text blurring on the MBP14 nano was significantly less noticeable than my relative's ASD nano. For me at least, nano is a clear win on the M4 MBP14.
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I doubt it as it is not a stock screen.Leaning towards Nano texture now.... Do you guys think they will mark it down for BF?
Did you decide? I am on the fence. I use a 16inch M1 Max and thinking of upgrading to 16inch M4 Max, the Apple Store only had the 14inch in Nano so I got that one, used it for a few days and returned it. Just like you said, in the dark you can not distinguish between the two displays. Absolutely same blacks, colors etc. (I do heavy photography editing and videography and also astrophotography) I haven't noticed any difference in dark. Out in the reflective environments Nano clearly wins. I have noticed slight "grain" in white backgrounds but this was like pixel peeping. I guess I will go with Nano when I order my new 16inch M4 Max.I now have both 16" MBP M4 in 48gb 1tb configurations with and without nano-texture
Under dark lighting conditions, there is NO difference between the two displays in terms of contrast and black depth. I had the two laptops set up in a 'blind' experiment under pitch black conditions. The displays are identical in the dark.
As ana aside, I noticed a slightly 'warmer' color on the glossy display.
The nano-texture kinda looks more 'life-like', just like a gallery painting. Whereas the gloss display looks like, just how you think, a picture under a glass.
As per 'sharpness', I turn of macos font smoothing for reference, and I can't notice any difference in font sharpness.
I will do more testing. I'm still undecided at this point.
I brought in the cloth that came with my sunglasses to test in the store, and it did a fine job of easily removing smudges. Certainly didn't seem any harder to clean than the glossy version.
Same dealOn the glossy screen, sometimes I have to use tap water to wet a cloth slightly to be able to clean the screen. How is the case of the nano? Has anybody cleaned it using a slightly dampened cloth?
what type of environment do you find yourself in more often? I tried both and ended up returning the nano because I preferred the crisper screen (especially in white backgrounds) while at home and only found myself with any glare issues like 15-20% of the time (and in those cases, removing dark mode pretty much removed most reflections). I tried really hard to like the nano, especially with the hype, but if you put them side by side, there is definitely a loss in sharpness. So I don't know why anyone would prefer that except they actually need it.Did you decide? I am on the fence. I use a 16inch M1 Max and thinking of upgrading to 16inch M4 Max, the Apple Store only had the 14inch in Nano so I got that one, used it for a few days and returned it. Just like you said, in the dark you can not distinguish between the two displays. Absolutely same blacks, colors etc. (I do heavy photography editing and videography and also astrophotography) I haven't noticed any difference in dark. Out in the reflective environments Nano clearly wins. I have noticed slight "grain" in white backgrounds but this was like pixel peeping. I guess I will go with Nano when I order my new 16inch M4 Max.
I mean when at home in dark conditions you don't notice any difference and when out and about Nano clearly has the advantage. So I am thinking why not go with Nano?
I'm close to returning the glossy and keeping the nano. The nano is just infinitely better in 90% of situations. Today was a bright day and the glare from the glossy was so obnoxious I couldn't handle the glossy display. Even at work and home this glare is going to be a terrible problem reading text, coding, etc. I can't imagine when I travel what it will look like. I would argue for color critical work nano-texture is just superior. Apple even had a blurb on their website mentioning the same thing.Did you decide? I am on the fence. I use a 16inch M1 Max and thinking of upgrading to 16inch M4 Max, the Apple Store only had the 14inch in Nano so I got that one, used it for a few days and returned it. Just like you said, in the dark you can not distinguish between the two displays. Absolutely same blacks, colors etc. (I do heavy photography editing and videography and also astrophotography) I haven't noticed any difference in dark. Out in the reflective environments Nano clearly wins. I have noticed slight "grain" in white backgrounds but this was like pixel peeping. I guess I will go with Nano when I order my new 16inch M4 Max.
I mean when at home in dark conditions you don't notice any difference and when out and about Nano clearly has the advantage. So I am thinking why not go with Nano?
lol it’s something I’ve noticed a lot of nano texture buyers say. Seems like pure purchase confirmation bias to me, because it is clearly there. If they want to argue that it doesn’t affect them, then that’s a different argument. But it’s literally physically impossible to have an anti-glare display without some form of display compromise (no matter how small)@marko232 what do you mean you're not sure the grain really exists? You don't see it?
I found it pretty easy to see with content on white backgrounds, not bad but definitely present.
lol it’s something I’ve noticed a lot of nano texture buyers say. Seems like pure purchase confirmation bias to me, because it is clearly there. If they want to argue that it doesn’t affect them, then that’s a different argument. But it’s literally physically impossible to have an anti-glare display without some form of display compromise (no matter how small)
Yeah it’s similar to what I mentioned. The slight loss in quality might not affect you and many others but there is a slight loss in quality. And as you’ve said, it’s a trade off, which people have to decide what works best for them. Yes, it might be more difficult to read things in situations where there’s a lot of glare, but the question is, how often are you in those situations that’ll make you choose a slightly worse screen that handles reflections better. For me, after trying both, I just enjoyed the more vibrant and crisp screen, and in the 10% of situations where there was a lot of glare, removing dark mode almost always resolved it.I've been using matte displays for 15 years, the grain 'issue' wasn't something that ever bothered me on any of my IPS displays. And the nano texture on the macbook pro is far better than the one on the studio display where this is more of an issue ( wouldn't get nano texture on the studio display).
To be honest no matter what you choose glossy or matte, there is a compromise. As technology evolves, we are attempting to kill glare because glare prevents you from viewing content. I would rather at least be able to read and see the content on my screen than be distracted by reflections.
Glossy gives you a little more 'vibrancy' or 'clarity' or perceived 'contrast', which is amazing. Now this is 'perceived' as we know from apple the displays are identical in terms of color accuracy and nits. The Samsung S24 Ultra has a new anti-glare coating on their glass, which is super amazing and I'm not sure if in the future we could have this glass on larger monitors. It is undeniably amazing and 'solves' the issue of matte vs glossy.
Exactly. I'm always in dark mode and would never turn it off from my code editors to everything else that I use.Yeah it’s similar to what I mentioned. The slight loss in quality might not affect you and many others but there is a slight loss in quality. And as you’ve said, it’s a trade off, which people have to decide what works best for them. Yes, it might be more difficult to read things in situations where there’s a lot of glare, but the question is, how often are you in those situations that’ll make you choose a slightly worse screen that handles reflections better. For me, after trying both, I just enjoyed the more vibrant and crisp screen, and in the 10% of situations where there was a lot of glare, removing dark mode almost always resolved it.
@marko232 what do you mean you're not sure the grain really exists? You don't see it?
I found it pretty easy to see with content on white backgrounds, not bad but definitely present.
Great if that's what works best for youExactly. I'm always in dark mode and would never turn it off from my code editors to everything else that I use.
I argue that the biggest negatives on both displays
1. Glossy: Glare
2. Nano-texture: grain on white backgrounds
In any case, I packed up the glossy today and will be keeping the nano-texture. I didn't really notice the grain to be such an issue for me personally and being able to see the display in more varied conditions mattered more. Both my home and work office have a lot of natural light.
I've got an M4 Ipad Pro that has the glossy display since I didn't want to upgrade to 1 TB storage just for the nano option
Swung by the local Apple Store. Text blurring on the MBP14 nano was significantly less noticeable than my relative's ASD nano. For me at least, nano is a clear win on the M4 MBP14.
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You did return it because of the size? is 14" too small for you?used it for a few days and returned it.
Yes. I always use a 16 MBP and a 13 Air (for travel). In the local Apple Store they only had the 14 MBP in Nano so I bought it just to try the Nano for a few days before ordering my 16 in Nano. The real game changer for me would be if Apple offered Nano in the Air series because that’s the device I use when traveling and at uncontrolled lighting areas.You did return it because of the size? is 14" too small for you?