This is basic engineering science. Look up how it is produced. If there are holes it will fill up doesn't matter if its nano, wall, floor.
Thats not hard to understand is it?
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Thats not hard to understand is it?
The statement you made is just laughable. I love the assertiveness with zero proof to back it up outside of quoting “basic engineering science” and talking about gunk. I have not seen any comments about the Studio Display suffering from a lack of durability and that has been out for a while.
This is what alcohol is for, to wash it out of the microscopic pits.
Just because you don't know how to clean things, doesn't mean they can't be cleaned. That's if the gunk is even able to fit into the microscopic pits... which most of it - I doubt. The pits are smaller than grains of dust.
Based on a decade plus of prior Mac ownership, I'd be more concerned about the "anti-reflective" non-nano texture coating coming off.
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I don’t agree with your analysis. If Apple had known that you couldn’t properly clean the nano-texture displays, they would never have released them for sale. They cannot afford to anger their customers, and invite another embarrassing and costly class action lawsuit.
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In an Apple store last night, I spent a considerable amount of time playing with a MacBook Pro with a standard display and one with a nano-texture display. No matter what angle I adjusted the standard display MacBook Pro to, I could never get rid of the various reflections and glare on the screen. Thus, it was easy to tell the two computers apart. Granted, it was a tough condition with all the various lights in the store, but were I in the market for a MacBook Pro, it would be an easy decision to get the nano-texture display. However, I was hoping to purchase a MacBook Air this Christmas season, and now I am pondering spending a lot more money to get the nano-texture screen. I tell you this not to seek advice or solicit sympathy, but merely to emphasis how great I think the new display is.
I returned my MacBook Pro 14" M4 Max with nano texture because eye-strain was worse.
I am back to use my MacBook Pro 14" M3 Max (glossy screen of course). Only upgraded because of the claimed reduced eye-strain claims. n=1, but for me the nano texture is way worse. I can use my M3 Max for 12 hours with no eye-strain like ever. Couple of hours on the nano texture bring eye-strain each time. I tried 4-5 times before deciding on a return.
The reduced reflection are nice, but something of this screen make it harder to actually read on it. Maybe it's not the nano texture though as I understand they also switched to quantum dot technology which is OLED-like. OLED image looks better, but OLED whites are way more aggressive on the eyes. I don't like OLED screens. For example, I have my Iphone set up with that white light option to like 81% for no eye strain. There is no option like this on Mac though.
I am back to use my MacBook Pro 14" M3 Max (glossy screen of course). Only upgraded because of the claimed reduced eye-strain claims. n=1, but for me the nano texture is way worse. I can use my M3 Max for 12 hours with no eye-strain like ever. Couple of hours on the nano texture bring eye-strain each time. I tried 4-5 times before deciding on a return.
The reduced reflection are nice, but something of this screen make it harder to actually read on it. Maybe it's not the nano texture though as I understand they also switched to quantum dot technology which is OLED-like. OLED image looks better, but OLED whites are way more aggressive on the eyes. I don't like OLED screens. For example, I have my Iphone set up with that white light option to like 81% for no eye strain. There is no option like this on Mac though.
As sakabaro has returned to a MacBook Pro (MBP) M3, he/she may not soon find out what was caused his/her eye strain problems with the MBP M4 with the nano-texture display, as the MBP M3 doesn’t use quantum dot. However, he/she brings up an interesting theory that people could potentially have issues with the quantum dot technology, which I haven’t heard of before.
I am still finding my nano 14" to be a joy to use in all conditions. I never experienced eye strain, be it with glossy or matte screens.
Yeah I am really enjoying my nano 16" It took me ages to decide which to keep, but I am very glad about the nano. It feels extremely premium, like a digital canvas.
I disable font smoothing and everything looks fantastic from text to images. The only thing I will get is a color calibrator.
I disable font smoothing and everything looks fantastic from text to images. The only thing I will get is a color calibrator.
I just got a MacBook Pro 16" with a Nano-texture display. When I opened the lid, the first thing I noticed is that on the left vertical edge of the screen between the bezel and the screen, there are lots of white powder looking things along the entire edge. Not sure if it is due to the cutting or dust trapped between the bezel and the screen. Do yours have this issue?
Got the 16 in nano texture today, exactly like the 14 inch but way more impactful considering it's a larger display. I can sit in front of my window now with no issues, lunardisplay will take it to whichever nit it needs to be but no glare and clear text. I love it.
Returning the 14 inch, 16 inch ends up coming cheaper because the instore config of the 14 was 2 tb, i don't need 2 tb, 512 gb is good enough for me. 48 gig ram, m4 pro, and nano texture were key.
It's a better matte screen, as a programmer by trade, it helps immensely with fatigue.
Returning the 14 inch, 16 inch ends up coming cheaper because the instore config of the 14 was 2 tb, i don't need 2 tb, 512 gb is good enough for me. 48 gig ram, m4 pro, and nano texture were key.
It's a better matte screen, as a programmer by trade, it helps immensely with fatigue.
Not really. OLED is not QD-OLED is not QD-miniLED. The addition of quantum dot should get you better motion performance and maybe a wider color gamut, but it doesn't make it OLED-like.
I find OLED in darker rooms to be soooo much better for the eyes. The blacks are black and there is no white miniLED glow around things. I can turn the backlight all the way down and read in a dark room so much easier than on a miniLED.
I think it's more the improvements to peak nits that might be too much for you. Apple is rumored to go to OLED MBP soon (2025? 2026?), but unless they scale back the peak brightness, this problem will probably persist for you.
I don't have a MBP to test, but there should be a Calibrate feature in Displays that lets you set a Target White Point. Does this still exist? Does it work for the built-in display?
Anybody else found the screen a dust magnet? I cleaned the edges between the rubber gasket and the screen yesterday but a day later, I see a lot of small white dots got trapped in the gaps. The Mac has been staying indoor with windows closed.
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Could be the problem right there. You might want to consider letting some fresh air in.
I just got the 14" M4 base 16/1TB with nano, v my 11" M4 iPad non nano it's no where near as good, not as bright or colourful and blacks are more grey than black, obviously cause not oled. Even whites not as good as in on here.
Watching video is chalk and cheese.
I got this mainly to use on my 5m x 5m under cover patio, sure almost zero glare, but think I will come back when they go oled.
Disappointed. even my non tech wife noticed lol.
On a positive it flys v my 8/512gb M1 iMac.
Might just get the MGK for my iPad for now as I like trackpads.
Watching video is chalk and cheese.
I got this mainly to use on my 5m x 5m under cover patio, sure almost zero glare, but think I will come back when they go oled.
Disappointed. even my non tech wife noticed lol.
On a positive it flys v my 8/512gb M1 iMac.
Might just get the MGK for my iPad for now as I like trackpads.
I had given some initial negative comments after seeing the nano in store but decided to bring one home anyways.
I will say this. The conditions of the Apple Store are not the greatest to evaluate the display.
Under normal lighting it’s a wonderful display. Colors seems accurate reading text at normal distance is very good.
Watching media content seems equally as good. I can also sit in various lighting conditions with my usual dark backgrounds and see no reflections. The display is probably the feature I like most about it.
I will say this. The conditions of the Apple Store are not the greatest to evaluate the display.
Under normal lighting it’s a wonderful display. Colors seems accurate reading text at normal distance is very good.
Watching media content seems equally as good. I can also sit in various lighting conditions with my usual dark backgrounds and see no reflections. The display is probably the feature I like most about it.
the nano texture makes dark mode usable during the day without the distractions.
hi out of curiosity, does the disabling of font smoothing make the text on white pages look a bit sharper? and how do I disable font smoothing?
I don't know what kind of hawk eyes some of you guys have, but I've been a user of MBP with glossy displays for 10+ years, and just now swapped to nano texture 16" last week.
It's an extremely nice display, zero issues, and I can't see any difference in text clarity (even on white backgrounds).
Someone said well how it feels like a digital canvas. It's such a pleasure to use. NEVER going back to glossy display!
It's an extremely nice display, zero issues, and I can't see any difference in text clarity (even on white backgrounds).
Someone said well how it feels like a digital canvas. It's such a pleasure to use. NEVER going back to glossy display!
I have a 3 wall room where 2 sides are ceiling to wall glass. Obviously a bright room.
I did the wife test this morning and asked her which display she preferred and she immediately chose the Nano.
I also sat in another area where we have a 12 foot Xmas tree decorated behind a sitting area along with a window about 20-30 ft away. To use the glossy I need to tilt the screen to get rid of all reflections in an awkward position, the Nano requires little to no adjustment.
The only thing that is noticeable are bright white backgrounds. They have this speckle to them which is no different than any other Matte like display. I do not use any editors that are against bright white, almost everything is in a dark mode (which doesn't work well with glossy). So for me this is really good.
I did the wife test this morning and asked her which display she preferred and she immediately chose the Nano.
I also sat in another area where we have a 12 foot Xmas tree decorated behind a sitting area along with a window about 20-30 ft away. To use the glossy I need to tilt the screen to get rid of all reflections in an awkward position, the Nano requires little to no adjustment.
The only thing that is noticeable are bright white backgrounds. They have this speckle to them which is no different than any other Matte like display. I do not use any editors that are against bright white, almost everything is in a dark mode (which doesn't work well with glossy). So for me this is really good.