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Nano-texture display

adrianlondon said:
Disadvantages: colours will be a bit washed out where the glare would have been, and cost.
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Own both (Glossy M1 Pro and Nano M4 Max in 14" MacBook Pro format), the colours do not look at all washed out to me. I've run them side-by-side.

As far as I am concerned, the only downside is cost. And on a machine you're spending 4 figures on, $150 not a big thing.
 
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adrianlondon said:
I've never had any issues with markings (from keyboard or otherwise) on my glossy screens, and I suspect it'll be the same for the nano ones.

I think people need to judge purely on whether they want to pay extra for an anti-glare screen. Advantages: less glare/reflections. Disadvantages: colours will be a bit washed out where the glare would have been, and cost.

I don't use dark mode, and had no issues with reflections on my old MBA so saved the £€$150 and went glossy. If you use dark mode, and/or currently suffer from glare in your environment, get the nano.

The one thing I do have glare issues with is my TV. I wish my LCD TV had a nano option!
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I only got the nano texture after multiple comparisons side by side. The effect you are talking about is only visible on a bright white background.

I could not identify any difference whatsoever when content is played onscreen- including HDR content at high brightness levels.

I am finding the nano texture to be a game changer in the enjoyment I get out of using my Mac.
 
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throAU said:
Own both (Glossy M1 Pro and Nano M4 Max in 14" MacBook Pro format), the colours do not look at all washed out to me. I've run them side-by-side.
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Washed out where the bright light shines, not all over. It diffuses the glare, which has an effect. A slightly washed out look is better than glare.

I've spent quite a bit of time with a Nano laptop, and even though I do have quite a lot of white background usually, I don't notice the "rainbow effect" others have mentioned. Screens look pretty much identical to me. Well, until there's any glare in which case the nano wins.
 
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I was at the Apple store earlier today and really impressed by the nano texture display. Stupid reason to upgrade/sidegrade from my M3 Max MBP 14 but I am tempted to switch to an M4 Pro with nano texture. Actually, I may even be fine with a downgrade to an M4 MBA 15 + M4 Max Mac Studio when they're released. I know, I am all over the place.

I know my M3 Max MBP 14 is still great and easily does everything I ask of it, yet I don't "love" it like I did my retina MBP 13 (kept for 8 years) or M1 MBA (kept 3 years and still miss it). I don't know quite what it is. Performance-wise M3 Max is more than fine (aside from battery life) but I don't have much of an emotional attachment to it and feel easily tempted to swap it for something else. I think I simply overbought on the M3 Max. I could afford it but hasn't felt worth the premium. Or maybe I'm underutilizing the M3 Max and fell for the "future proof" argument and convinced myself I won't need to upgrade for 10 years. Now I cringe at the thought of holding onto the same laptop for 10 years in order to justify the cost. A year in and I already want something else. I mean, some things did change in the past year that altered my use case - I got into photography more and appreciate a larger display for Photoshop and my team returned to the office twice a week so I take my laptop with me more often and the 14-inch is starting to feel cramped when it's my only display sometimes.

Anyways, back to topic and the nano texture would really be nice for in-office days in my cubicle near the window. The glare and reflections on glossy screen are so much more noticeable and bothersome now than before.

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NeonNights said:
I was at the Apple store earlier today and really impressed by the nano texture display. Stupid reason to upgrade/sidegrade from my M3 Max MBP 14 but I am tempted to switch to an M4 Pro with nano texture. Actually, I may even be fine with a downgrade to an M4 MBA 15 + M4 Max Mac Studio when they're released. I know, I am all over the place.

I know my M3 Max MBP 14 is still great and easily does everything I ask of it, yet I don't "love" it like I did my retina MBP 13 (kept for 8 years) or M1 MBA (kept 3 years and still miss it). I don't know quite what it is. Performance-wise M3 Max is more than fine (aside from battery life) but I don't have much of an emotional attachment to it and feel easily tempted to swap it for something else. I think I simply overbought on the M3 Max. I could afford it but hasn't felt worth the premium. Or maybe I'm underutilizing the M3 Max and fell for the "future proof" argument and convinced myself I won't need to upgrade for 10 years. Now I cringe at the thought of holding onto the same laptop for 10 years in order to justify the cost. A year in and I already want something else. I mean, some things did change in the past year that altered my use case - I got into photography more and appreciate a larger display for Photoshop and my team returned to the office twice a week so I take my laptop with me more often and the 14-inch is starting to feel cramped when it's my only display sometimes.

Anyways, back to topic and the nano texture would really be nice for in-office days in my cubicle near the window. The glare and reflections on glossy screen are so much more noticeable and bothersome now than before.
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Sounds like mild depression to me and returning to office might have not helped. It almost feels like you miss the old days and emotions attached to them rather than the laptops mentioned. Was there any change as of 3 years?

I had MBP 13 2012 retina and every year i wanted to update it(how cool the first MBP15 retina was and 2015 MBP13 were pinnacle but the same eggs to be honest) but never did for 10 years. After that picked up M1 Air, that is still working for 4 years and i absolutely can not think of replacing it for anything fancy even though i like nano screen.

I also have MBP14 M1 Pro that i was excited for, but it gets no use and love. It served me well (2 jobs at the same time) so since having only 1 job i don't use it quite often. But i know what stops me from loving it: it is chunky, heavy, hand cutting edges, 10-12hr battery life only while Air was 16hr new, it kept lagging until MacOS finally updated it. And in honesty aluminum used feels lower grade than the M1 Air or first retina MBPs.
 
Thanks for the mental health concern, but rest assured I do not suffer from depression. 👍

At worst, I fell for the pricing ladder and over-specced way over my needs. I now realize I still value battery life and minimal weight over extreme power. M3 Max is a steep drop-off in battery life compared to my previous M1 MBA. That seems obvious and a "no, duh" statement but I still wasn't quite prepared for the reality. Oh well, live and learn.
 
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I hate the glare on the normal glossy screen. My concern with the nano screen are the micro etching. Are these on the outside or inside of the glass? If its on the outside, with all of the dust that lands on the screen, I can see crud getting into those micro etches and not coming clean easily (even with Apple's special cloth), and other time, really degrading the screen clarity.

I've had a relatively cheap LG 4K display for years now that has a matte surface. It doesn't reflect badly, it's a joy to use, and for some reason, it doesn't attract dust anywhere near the MacBook Pro display. Colors are sharp and vibrant. It cleans easily and doesn't smudge. The screen coating hasn't peeled off like on the MacBook. It doesn't have any micro etches either.
 
I have an M2 Air and I simply purchased a matte screen protector. Pretty much 90% Nano texture right there for £15 / $17 US. Simples
 
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For me, I want to keep the clean as clean as possible and not something that requires high maintenance,. It seems as if the nano texture display require more care and that you need to be careful when cleaning etc
 
Jaw3000 said:
I hate the glare on the normal glossy screen. My concern with the nano screen are the micro etching. Are these on the outside or inside of the glass? If its on the outside, with all of the dust that lands on the screen, I can see crud getting into those micro etches and not coming clean easily (even with Apple's special cloth), and other time, really degrading the screen clarity.

I've had a relatively cheap LG 4K display for years now that has a matte surface. It doesn't reflect badly, it's a joy to use, and for some reason, it doesn't attract dust anywhere near the MacBook Pro display. Colors are sharp and vibrant. It cleans easily and doesn't smudge. The screen coating hasn't peeled off like on the MacBook. It doesn't have any micro etches either.
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This, I am also trying to figure out how easy it is to keep clean. I've heard it's more difficult and requires extra care
 
Madhatter32 said:
Slightly more wipes to clean but likely more durable than the typical poor quality A/R coating used by Apple on the glossy screens.
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Forgive my ignorance - do the Nano Texture displays not have the A/R coating? Assuming it’s redundant?
 
Honey_crisp said:
Forgive my ignorance - do the Nano Texture displays not have the A/R coating? Assuming it’s redundant?
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No coating, thats the whole point. it is etching into the glass. the only thing on the screen is GLASS. Unless you're attacking it with things harder than glass it should be pretty ok. That said I'd still treat it nicely, but yeah... no coating to come off.
 
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Instead of getting the nano coating (which degrades the image). I spent the $60 on this when needed.

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Now that they’ve been out a while, how does the nano-texture glass hold up with keyboard markings after closing the laptop? If you had issues with keyboard markings on prior MacBooks, do you have it on the nano still? Is it easier/harder to clean?
 
01cowherd said:
Now that they’ve been out a while, how does the nano-texture glass hold up with keyboard markings after closing the laptop? If you had issues with keyboard markings on prior MacBooks, do you have it on the nano still? Is it easier/harder to clean?
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That is not immediate problem. Mine took couple years to show up, because i was not moving much. If you desktop it then you might never see it.

Keyboard imprints happen when keyboard is covered enough with finger grease and person also holding the laptop by squishing the lid (i.e. packing into backpack everyday).
 
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ctjack said:
If you desktop it then you might never see it.
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I know, hence why I asked specifically said after closing the laptop.
ctjack said:
Keyboard imprints happen when keyboard is covered enough with finger grease and person also holding the laptop by squishing the lid (i.e. packing into backpack everyday).
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It's a different display surface and I'm interested in people's direct comparisons between the standard glossy coating and the etched glass in terms of (1) how easily it picks up the oils and (2) how easy it is to clean off.

IME, it's annoying to clean off the markings on the glossy display without lens wipes or alcohol even with a microfiber cloth. I was looking to see if it's the same with the nano-texture.
 
01cowherd said:
I know, hence why I asked specifically said after closing the laptop.
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All i am trying to say is that you need to wait 6+ months to get the results. My laptops have shown marks only after a year of use at the least.
 
01cowherd said:
Now that they’ve been out a while, how does the nano-texture glass hold up with keyboard markings after closing the laptop? If you had issues with keyboard markings on prior MacBooks, do you have it on the nano still? Is it easier/harder to clean?
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I've cleaned mine with a damp cloth and water once since November 15th. It is still flawless. I found it easy to clean, and I'd be less worried using alcohol on it if required as it is GLASS, not coated glass which I've actually removed with alcohol deliberately on an older stain-gate impacted machine with the coating.

I've had less screen dirt issues with this one than any previous MacBook, maybe its quality control but it would appear either the keys aren't making as much contact or the screen is less susceptible to it being visible. I'd assume the former: I just got lucky with this one. Again as above I'd feel more comfortable using isopropyl alcohol on in per above if needed.
 
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ctjack said:
All i am trying to say is that you need to wait 6+ months to get the results. My laptops have shown marks only after a year of use at the least.
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To be clear the marks I’m referring to are just grease left from the keys.

I’m pretty fastidious with hand cleaning so I don’t get a lot of it but I can confirm that it DOES still appear to be a thing. But not as bad as my M1 Pro, and nowhere near as bad as my older 2015 13” pro or 2020 Air.

I’m not referring to the coating being damaged (it’s not a coating) - cleans off easily
 
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