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VisceralRealist

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I went and the saw the Nano-texture on the MBP for myself today.

Unfortunately, this Apple Store did not have any examples of the 16" with Nano, just the 14" and the iMac.

My main concern with the Nano-texture display is graininess. Interestingly, what I observed was that the graininess was more noticeable on the iMac than it was on the 14" MBP. To me, how it appeared on the 14" MBP was perfectly fine to me and I would be willing to get it for the glare-reducing capabilities. I did notice a big fingerprint smudge on the floor model, though, and it made wonder how exactly you clean it.
 
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alchemistics

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I use the Studio Display with nano with macOS, Windows and Linux. Each OS handles text anti-aliasing their own way. None of them show any visible issues on a 27 inch display so on a 14 or 16 inch display I don't understand what errata you expect to see.
You seem a bit ignorant of the fact that nano texture does have its downsides in image quality. You seem to not see any difference, but objective reality does not change because of that.

You are talking about OS software anti aliasing, which is a different context. I was refeering to anti aliasing as a reference of fuzzyiness effect of the physical nature of matte textures breaking incoming light.

I'm using a 32" XDR without nano texture because of it being visibly sharper.

The new MacBooks seem to do the best job so far with reducing the downsides, which many users report to not seeing any major difference anymore. I will be choosing nano texture for the MBPs going forward. However its slightly negative impact on sharpness is still a fact which is visible even at reading distance to many which are not trying to defend a product beause of ownership identification.
 

nostradumbass

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You seem a bit ignorant of the fact that nano texture does have its downsides in image quality. You seem to not see any difference, but objective reality does not change because of that.


My job, as well as millions of other creatives, requires me to use a display with optimal image quality. The nano texture is a pro feature not only on the new MacBooks and Studio Display but also on the high end XDR display. We were also offered a matte display on MacBook Pros 12 years ago as a pro feature, and that one pales in comparison to what Apple has achieved with today's nano.

There is no perceptible loss in image quality going from glossy to nano. We can't even to do our jobs properly on a glossy display, hence why Eizo monitors and reference monitors shun reflective glass.

So before you post utter garbage on the internets at least think about what you say and the millions of people in the world who will laugh at your posts.

I'm using a 32" XDR without nano texture because of it being visibly sharper.

lols, no it isn't. Resolution and PPI define sharpness and the nano doesn't reduce it from reading distance. Asking people for macro close ups is bizarre. If you're knowledgable you would know that taking a macro photo of a display will result in chromatic aberration on the photo. That's an effect our eyes don't suffer from when looking at a retina display.
 
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alchemistics

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lols, no it isn't. Resolution and PPI define sharpness and the nano doesn't reduce it from reading distance.

The argument here seems to overlook a key point about matte textures and image sharpness. Matte (or nano-texture) finishes indeed scatter light in a way that reduces reflectivity, which is beneficial for minimizing glare. However, by design, this scattering effect does subtly soften the visual sharpness compared to a glossy display, even at reading distance. This isn’t an issue of resolution or pixel density but rather an inherent trade-off: matte textures reduce light reflection by diffusing it, which naturally impacts the perceived crispness of tiny details, regardless of viewing distance.

To reiterate the circular reasoning at play here: “I don’t notice a difference at reading distance, therefore matte texture has no impact on sharpness.” This logic is flawed; it assumes that the absence of a subjective perception equates to objective reality. But perceptual differences in image sharpness aren’t just guesses—they’re measurable optical effects of light scatter. The nano-texture, while effective at reducing reflections, still creates a noticeable trade-off for those who prioritize the crispness of tiny details, even at reading distance. Just because someone may not notice this difference doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist; it’s simply a question of whether it matters enough in specific use cases.

For many professionals in design, photography, and other visual fields, this difference is critical. The choice between matte and glossy displays is about balancing reflections and image sharpness, and the nano-texture strikes a middle ground for those who prioritize glare reduction while accepting a modest trade-off in sharpness.

If you're knowledgable you would know that taking a macro photo of a display will result in chromatic aberration on the photo. That's an effect our eyes don't suffer from when looking at a retina display.

The mention of chromatic aberration is irrelevant here and adds nothing to the discussion about matte textures and sharpness, again out of context just to sound smart.

You’re overlooking the fact that matte textures inherently trade off a degree of sharpness to reduce reflections and glare, yet you argue that this trade-off doesn’t exist simply because there’s no noticeable difference at reading distance. While it’s true that matte screens have long been used in professional monitors for their anti-reflective properties, this doesn’t eliminate the reality of a trade-off in sharpness—it's simply an accepted compromise in professional settings. Let's open it up to the community here to get an objective take
 

juanmaasecas

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I am still thinking because so many reviewers see the nanotexture as a good thing but what my eyes saw in the store is a screen that is dirtier and more difficult to clean, and when going closer to check sharpness (thing I always do when editing pictures) it is less sharp and “nanodirty” due to the light refractions in all directions (especially on white).

But what worries me the most is that at least the particular units I saw, the screen with the nanotexture (14”) was better quality with better viewing angles than the 16” (glossy) that I was comparing to in the store.
I wouldn’t like to think that Apple is reserving the better panels (better manufacturer) to the people ordering the nanotexture…

I’d like to see critic reviews in this before I make my decision, and maybe go to Apple Store again to test.
 
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Madhatter32

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To reiterate the circular reasoning at play here: “I don’t notice a difference at reading distance, therefore matte texture has no impact on sharpness.” This logic is flawed; it assumes that the absence of a subjective perception equates to objective reality. But perceptual differences in image sharpness aren’t just guesses—they’re measurable optical effects of light scatter. The nano-texture, while effective at reducing reflections, still creates a noticeable trade-off for those who prioritize the crispness of tiny details, even at reading distance. Just because someone may not notice this difference doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist; it’s simply a question of whether it matters enough in specific use cases.
Not really an issue of circular reasoning -- it's more of a philosophical of a question. Let me ask you, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?
 
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alchemistics

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Not really an issue of circular reasoning -- it's more of a philosophical of a question. Let me ask you, if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

I like the question, but in this case it is not something nobody hears, but it is actually seen by many as grain on plain backgrounds and less clarity, it is measurable. There is a reason glossy screens became the new standard. The new nano texture however is the best of it's class so far, and for the MacBook Pros a perfect match.
 

hoodlum90

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It is probably also helpful that the MacBook has a very high DPI screen. Any slight softening is less noticeable due to the very high pixel density. That combined with the latest Nano etching has made the benefits of the Nano Texture outweigh the negative for me.

Now if only the Nano Texture didn’t cost so much. That is likely the biggest negative now.
 

Madhatter32

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I like the question, but in this case it is not something nobody hears, but it is actually seen by many as grain on plain backgrounds and less clarity, it is measurable. There is a reason glossy screens became the new standard. The new nano texture however is the best of it's class so far, and for the MacBook Pros a perfect match.
I do not challenge your argument concerning measurable clarity. But let's not lose the forest for the trees.
Matte screens are not inherently inferior to glossy screens in the big picture. They do something different and valuable to many people. Also, as far as the new standard is concerned, if true, it may be because glossy screens are cheaper to produce. Don't know. I guess the take away is go for what works for you.
 

DHagan4755

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I got to try out the new 14-inch MacBook Pro’s nano texture display for the first time. I compared it to the standard display & it definitely has a unique look. It’s like a canvas, but I can’t decide if it’s worth the $150.
 

Macintosh101

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I got to try out the new 14-inch MacBook Pro’s nano texture display for the first time. I compared it to the standard display & it definitely has a unique look. It’s like a canvas, but I can’t decide if it’s worth the $150.
Trust me, it is. It's been an absolute game changer on my iPad Pro, and I'm enjoying it on my MBP also. Your eyes will thank you.
 
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bmclaurin

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Can someone comment about the NT effects specifically on text quality. The idea of reduced reflections is quite appealing, but if it causes degradation in the crispness and sharpness of *text*, it would be a no-go for me. Reflections aside, which is better for reading text? (I presume it would be the standard dispaly.)
 

awsom82

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Can someone comment about the NT effects specifically on text quality. The idea of reduced reflections is quite appealing, but if it causes degradation in the crispness and sharpness of *text*, it would be a no-go for me. Reflections aside, which is better for reading text? (I presume it would be the standard dispaly.)
I prefer read from nano
 

marko232

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The objective fact is that A/B comparisons of the same screen size with and without nano-texture leads to a loss in contrast and clarity. This was confirmed by several users including myself and my non-tech wife when I asked what difference do you see between the 14" pro with and without nano-texture. I also conducted the same A/B tests with the Studio Display. The Studio Display has a 'worse' nano-texture, or at least the sharpness and contrast reduction are more noticeable.

I will note that when you look at both screen in a dark environment, where there are no glare/reflections on the screen, it's hard to notice a difference between the two.

Presently I do not see a huge benefit for nano texture for day-to-day use. However, I am undecided. Presonally I ordered a non nano-texture display, but all this online 'buz' regarding the superiority of nano-texture is having be doubt my choice even after I made a decision after spending so much time at the store. Perhaps reviewers are making this a bigger deal than reality.

I should also note that, most phones/TVs are using glossy displays, so perhaps if you are an editor having the display mirror what end-users are going to be using is beneficial.
 
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Macalway

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I have the 14" MBP Nano. I also have an iPad Nano. I'm sorta all-in Nano. A vert good matte. I have a few other screens like this, but the Apple is probably best (maybe). I woud NOT worry about he coating coming off, or something like that. Ain't gonna happen. The iPad is proof of this. Also, I see zero text blurriness. Then again, maybe it's an 'eye of the beholder' thing. Who knows.
 
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