iPhone X Nearly 6 months in, the iPhone X isn't that successful

[PhoneMe1]

Just set up the new 8 plus I got this morning, seriously I think I fell for the new model etc with the X, The Plus is a way better phone for me, the positives way out way the size.
Sold my launch day X and will be selling the silver X I got Yesterday to flip, was going to keep it as got it for $100 less than I sold my launch X, and the plus 8 256gb was a steal.

TID is just brilliant after using FID,its just bs IMO
Oled hardly a difference side by side
5.8” pff give me 5.5 any day, conned there
Battery % back, up you Apple
Control centre swipe up back
Landscape view back
Video is actually full screen
Good ridden notch
Can actually type on it
Plus is thinner and actually feels like a work horse and not some fat V1 phone.
Thought I would miss the swiping, nope
No more tap swipe in my Brodit car holder
Looking forward to better battery life too, X is on par with 8 I had before.

Happy days

Let the bagging begin, take it or leave it my impressions from 6 months with X and 8/7/7plus and all the rest since 4S.

Big Apple fan here lol. Take into account I have had a few reds

 

[Commentist]

Edinburgh here. In my office of about 300 people not seen anyone with the X yet. A lot of people upgraded to the 8 and one girl the 7 but no X. One of my friends has the X and some guy at my gym as one but that's all I know. Mostly everyone has an iphone including me but no Xs yet.

I'm also in the UK and only seen two so far, but they are hard to spot unless you can actually
see the notch. I would suspect the price on contract is the main factor (76/month on O2 with minimal deposit). Giffgaff seems to have already reduced the price, which is unusual for a flagship iPhone at this stage of the cycle.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

If you don’t like the prices, then don’t buy the iPhone X. I bought an iPhone 8 Plus in mint condition with Apple Care for 30% less than resale. I didn’t pay the high price of the iPhone X, nor did I complain about the price on message boards. That is the price of the phone, I didn’t like it so I didn’t pay it. I am very happy with my iPhone 8 Plus. In two years time I will get the iPhone X Plus off off Swappa in mint condition for about 30% off. And just like now, I will not complain about it on message boards.

Non-purchase is of course the best way to complain about the pricing of a product, but complaining on message boards is another way of conveying that back to Apple.

No matter what others might say, Apple do monitor long-standing forums like this.
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I remember whenever a new iPhone came out I would soon see them out and about. This is the first time in years I've seen virtually no people carrying the newest model around.
If the X is selling well, it appears I'm living in some anti-X bubble here in Australia.

The US is pretty affordable for electronic products compared to many other countries in the world.

I suspect the X was not nearly the top selling phone in the majority of countries outside of the US.

 

[apolloa]

Just set up the new 8 plus I got this morning, seriously I think I fell for the new model etc with the X, The Plus is a way better phone for me, the positives way out way the size.
Sold my launch day X and will be selling the silver X I got Yesterday to flip, was going to keep it as got it for $100 less than I sold my launch X, and the plus 8 256gb was a steal.

TID is just brilliant after using FID,its just bs IMO
Oled hardly a difference side by side
5.8” pff give me 5.5 any day, conned there
Battery % back, up you Apple
Control centre swipe up back
Landscape view back
Video is actually full screen
Good ridden notch
Can actually type on it
Plus is thinner and actually feels like a work horse and not some fat V1 phone.
Thought I would miss the swiping, nope
No more tap swipe in my Brodit car holder
Looking forward to better battery life too, X is on par with 8 I had before.

Happy days

Let the bagging begin, take it or leave it my impressions from 6 months with X and 8/7/7plus and all the rest since 4S.

Big Apple fan here lol. Take into account I have had a few reds

Thanks for the feedback, it is good to read different opinions on a totally different design. I don’t think I’ve looked at an 8 Plus yet! I did buy an 8 though but sent it back as I didn’t think it was different enough to my 6S hmm..

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

Exactly its those that can't afford it or too tight to spend the big bucks doing most of the complaining . . .

This is a pretty arrogant and inaccurate statement.

This is a forum, for debate and therefore you will find many people complaining about various topics – it’s kinda the whole point.

As for your comment those complaining, “can’t afford it or too tight“ this is a sorry speculation.

There are many I’m sure who could absolutely afford to buy an X but have taken a step back and concluded that, at the current price point, it no longer represents the same value the previous iPhone flagships have.

It’s dangerous to put everybody in the same basket as there are a myriad of reasons why people who would normally purchase the flagship iPhone may have decided to skip this generation.

 

[PhoneMe1]

Thanks for the feedback, it is good to read different opinions on a totally different design. I don’t think I’ve looked at an 8 Plus yet! I did buy an 8 though but sent it back as I didn’t think it was different enough to my 6S hmm..

I had a 8 before the X should of got the 8 plus then but got caught up in the X hype.
Would of sold it earlier but didn’t want to lose the $$. I made $100 swapping my 6 month old X64Gb for brand new 8 plus 256gb and another $100 on another X I bought to flip.

 

[ftaok]

I like to think I’m fairly active in a Big city, and I don’t see a lot of iPhone X’s in public. The only reason I would pay attention to this, is primarily because just reading off threads like this pique my curiosity, and I would say the majority of iPhones of what I see currently would be the iPhone 7 and 6s.

Perhaps the reason why you (and others) aren't seeing that many X's in everyday life is that you don't notice them like you would notice any other iPhone. The bezelled/home button iPhone is an iconic design that looks like no other phone. It's very distinctive, plus maybe half of them are white, which makes it more noticable.

The iPhone X, on the other hand looks like a slab of glass, which is what just about every other android phone looks like these days. You can't really say the notch makes it distinctive because a lot of times, the screen is off and the notch disappears. Other reasons may be because the X is only availble in black and the glass back means more folks are using cases.

Perhaps all of the X's out there are hiding in plain sight.

 

[C DM]

iPhone X Remained World's Most Popular Smartphone Last Quarter Despite Concerns About Poor Sales

Is there really still a point to this thread that has been shown not to hold up?

 

[m0sher]

iPhone X Remained World's Most Popular Smartphone Last Quarter Despite Concerns About Poor Sales

Is there really still a point to this thread that has been shown not to hold up?

I agree the thread is misleading as more news of results come in today

Apple's flagship handset shipped 16 million units during the first three month. I’d say it was successful.

https://www.cnet.com/news/what-sale...was-the-worlds-best-selling-smartphone-in-q1/

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Perhaps the thread title could have ‘in certain countries’ added to the end?

I think it’s reasonable to say as a product it’s been a success. It’s just it’s sold strongly in certain countries and not others. In the UK I’d go as far to say that the iPhone is generally the most popular brand of smartphone. However the X doesn’t appear to be as popular here as it would be in the US where it’s rumoured to have a strong market. On an international forum such as this we are always going to see observations based on localised trends and for me that’s interesting.

 

[nj1266]

What do you think about the analysts who are interpreting the figures and pretending to know how many X’s have been sold despite Apple only saying ‘more’?

A lot of people condemn analysts until they suggest something that fits their own opinion.

The analysts can afford to be wrong and there are little to no repercussions for them being wrong. Tim Cook cannot lie because the consequences are jail time and fines. Lying on official earnings reports is a violation of SEC rules. So I trust what Cook says far more than what the analysts say simply because he faces way more dire consequences than they do.

 

[nj1266]

I didn’t buy an iPhone X or iPhone 8. If I want you complain on message boards then that is my prerogative, please don’t compare yourself to me and suggest superiority because you do something differently. We’ve waited years for an iPhone redesign and getting ripped off is not on, so I will air my views on this and flog it to death.

How are you getting ripped off if you didn’t even buy the iPhone X? Why are you complaining about a phone that you didn’t even buy?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

How are you getting ripped off if you didn’t even buy the iPhone X? Why are you complaining about a phone that you didn’t even buy?

Because it represents the potential pricing for iPhones I may want to purchase in future. I don’t intend to get ripped off and have claimed I have at this point in time. If iPhones are going to cost upwards of £1k for flagship models then it’s time to buy older and keep longer. I see it as greed personally especially when no effort is being put into mid tier offerings and it’s off putting to those of us who have been paying the premium for years. Hopefully I’ve explained that clearly.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The analysts can afford to be wrong and there are little to no repercussions for them being wrong. Tim Cook cannot lie because the consequences are jail time and fines. Lying on official earnings reports is a violation of SEC rules. So I trust what Cook says far more than what the analysts say simply because he faces way more dire consequences than they do.

Cook is also very vague with his comments too and perhaps for good reason. Apple never release sales stats for individual products because their success looks better as a single figure. The iPhone X is the best selling iPhone of the last quarter and the one previously and that’s a great claim and one that looks good for any headline. They do currently sell 8 different iPhone models though, more than at any other time in their history. Prices are up and profits are up but Cook is careful not to give specifics so analysts can directly compare units sold to previous years.

It’s clever, it’s marketing and Apple are one of the best at it.

 

[russelljg]

iPhone X Remained World's Most Popular Smartphone Last Quarter Despite Concerns About Poor Sales

Is there really still a point to this thread that has been shown not to hold up?

Plenty, that it didn't outsell the older style 8 series, that it didn't sell more than the 7 on equivalent dates and that it and the other models are all way behind the highest selling 6.

We have no idea of the validity of these numbers, success is still relative, and it wanted 'a few more points' whatever that may mean.

 

[C DM]

Plenty, that it didn't outsell the older style 8 series, that it didn't sell more than the 7 on equivalent dates and that it and the other models are all way behind the highest selling 6.

We have no idea of the validity of these numbers, success is still relative, and it wanted 'a few more points' whatever that may mean.

And now we don't know the validity of the numbers. Well, then we really can't know anything and it's all simply about how people feel about something, which is basically neither here nor there as everyone can feel differently and none of it is any more or less valid compared to another opinion of how someone personally feels as it applies just to themselves.

 

[ftaok]

Cook is also very vague with his comments too and perhaps for good reason. Apple never release sales stats for individual products because their success looks better as a single figure. The iPhone X is the best selling iPhone of the last quarter and the one previously and that’s a great claim and one that looks good for any headline. They do currently sell 8 different iPhone models though, more than at any other time in their history. Prices are up and profits are up but Cook is careful not to give specifics so analysts can directly compare units sold to previous years.

It’s clever, it’s marketing and Apple are one of the best at it.

These statements are not marketing ... at least not in the general sense. Cook actually doesn't have to say anything. In fact, he probably says too much. Look at the other manufacuturers. They don't say or release any usable information. Does anyone have any realistic idea how many Samsung S9 were sold? Samsung reports unit sales and revenue for the entire smartphone segment. Other manufacturers do the same.

Apple gives a little more information, only because of the precedent set back in the Steve Jobs days when actually unit sales of pretty much everything was given. Look at what the analysts did with iPad numbers and the manipulation that took place. You wonder why Apple doesn't release Watch sales numbers or Airpods or Homepods? It's because it's a no-win proposition to say anything.

So if you're complaining that Cook is being mealy-mouthed about iPhone X sales, then just get used to it. iPhones are gonna cost what they cost. If $1000 or 1000GBP is too much, then go for the lower tier iPhone or an Android. The cat's out of the bag. The iPhone flagship will always be $1000 (or more) from now on.

with that said ... I do believe that the X2 will start at $900 and the X2-plus will likely be $1050.

 

[alphaswift]

Apple never release sales stats for individual products because their success looks better as a single figure.

Well, Apple has now provided a sales breakdown and the X is their best selling phone. Is it too expensive? For some it is. Protip: Don't buy one if you feel that way. Alterntively, buy an X and some shares in Apple. That way, you're kind of getting some money back. Warren Buffet just bought a trainload of Apple shares, maybe he bought an X for him and his wife.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

These statements are not marketing ... at least not in the general sense. Cook actually doesn't have to say anything. In fact, he probably says too much. Look at the other manufacuturers. They don't say or release any usable information. Does anyone have any realistic idea how many Samsung S9 were sold? Samsung reports unit sales and revenue for the entire smartphone segment. Other manufacturers do the same.

Apple gives a little more information, only because of the precedent set back in the Steve Jobs days when actually unit sales of pretty much everything was given. Look at what the analysts did with iPad numbers and the manipulation that took place. You wonder why Apple doesn't release Watch sales numbers or Airpods or Homepods? It's because it's a no-win proposition to say anything.

So if you're complaining that Cook is being mealy-mouthed about iPhone X sales, then just get used to it. iPhones are gonna cost what they cost. If $1000 or 1000GBP is too much, then go for the lower tier iPhone or an Android. The cat's out of the bag. The iPhone flagship will always be $1000 (or more) from now on.

with that said ... I do believe that the X2 will start at $900 and the X2-plus will likely be $1050.

I think I already outlined what I do in post #466.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Well, Apple has now provided a sales breakdown and the X is their best selling phone. Is it too expensive? For some it is. Protip: Don't buy one if you feel that way. Alterntively, buy an X and some shares in Apple. That way, you're kind of getting some money back. Warren Buffet just bought a trainload of Apple shares, maybe he bought an X for him and his wife.

True and 16 million units in 1 quarter is perhaps a good indication of the combination of having 8 models in the line up and a shrinking global smartphone market. It’s impressive considering the factors at play and it’s no wonder Apple are making lots of money.

 

[nj1266]

Because it represents the potential pricing for iPhones I may want to purchase in future. I don’t intend to get ripped off and have claimed I have at this point in time. If iPhones are going to cost upwards of £1k for flagship models then it’s time to buy older and keep longer. I see it as greed personally especially when no effort is being put into mid tier offerings and it’s off putting to those of us who have been paying the premium for years. Hopefully I’ve explained that clearly.

The very nature of a corporation is based on maximizing profit, i.e., greed. If other handset makers can get away with the prices that Apple charges, then they will do it too. They cannot and so they don’t. Apple has a monopoly on its software whereas Android makers do not. So if you want iOS, macOS, and watchOS, that fully and seamlessly work together, then there is no choice but Apple. That is why Apple can charge higher prices than the rest of the handset makers. In capitalism a corporation is set up to maximize profits. It is inherent in the system. If a CEO doesn’t maximize profits then the board will fire him or her.

 

[nj1266]

Cook is also very vague with his comments too and perhaps for good reason. Apple never release sales stats for individual products because their success looks better as a single figure. The iPhone X is the best selling iPhone of the last quarter and the one previously and that’s a great claim and one that looks good for any headline. They do currently sell 8 different iPhone models though, more than at any other time in their history. Prices are up and profits are up but Cook is careful not to give specifics so analysts can directly compare units sold to previous years.

It’s clever, it’s marketing and Apple are one of the best at it.

Does Samsung break down the sales of their smartphones by sub categories? Does any handset maker do that? If not, then why should Apple do that? Apple is giving shareholders and investors as much information as the law demands. They are not going to give you what they deem to be trade secrets.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

The very nature of a corporation is based on maximizing profit, i.e., greed. If other handset makers can get away with the prices that Apple charges, then they will do it too. They cannot and so they don’t. Apple has a monopoly on its software whereas Android makers do not. So if you want iOS, macOS, and watchOS, that fully and seamlessly work together, then there is no choice but Apple. That is why Apple can charge higher prices than the rest of the handset makers. In capitalism a corporation is set up to maximize profits. It is inherent in the system. If a CEO doesn’t maximize profits then the board will fire him or her.

I’m sure we are all aware of this.

Does Samsung break down the sales of their smartphones by sub categories? Does any handset maker do that? If not, then why should Apple do that? Apple is giving shareholders and investors as much information as the law demands. They are not going to give you what they deem to be trade secrets.

I have no idea if Samsung break their figures down, I’ve never looked into it. A lot of people are stating as fact the quarterly figure for iPhone X’s sold stands at 16 million units. That could be complete guesswork and likely is though.

I don’t think it makes any difference though to the general consumer because regardless of a products sales, we all have our own opinions on whether it’s worth buying or not.

 

[apolloa]

iPhone X Remained World's Most Popular Smartphone Last Quarter Despite Concerns About Poor Sales

Is there really still a point to this thread that has been shown not to hold up?

You do realise that’s an analysts guess right? I mean people in here claimed analysts and reports from th supply chains of slashed iPhone X parts as bogus, yet when one claims something else all of a sudden they are right....

Irony for you

Strategy Analytics estimates that iPhone X shipments totaled 16 million units in the first three months of 2018, making it the best-selling smartphone model during that period, as it was during the final three months of 2017.
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Well, Apple has now provided a sales breakdown and the X is their best selling phone. Is it too expensive? For some it is. Protip: Don't buy one if you feel that way. Alterntively, buy an X and some shares in Apple. That way, you're kind of getting some money back. Warren Buffet just bought a trainload of Apple shares, maybe he bought an X for him and his wife.

Really? Where? News to me...?

 

[44267547]

Does Samsung break down the sales of their smartphones by sub categories? Does any handset maker do that? If not, then why should Apple do that?

Part of the reason they (Apple and other manufacturers) do not release specific numbers, is because of their competitors and sharing information would publicly reveal information that could be useful to them.