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Agreed

I dropped my 15G 2G ipod from my bike at 25 mph (in its black clip-case). It bounced along & rebooted & was up & playing again right after. My daughter also dropped it once down some stone stairs! They're remarkably tough, even though the minis "feel" tougher to me.

stridey said:
I think your experience was probably the exception rather than the rule. I've dropped my iPod from tabletop level multiple times :eek: with no adverse effects (as of yet!).

old said:
Personally after my old iPod died when it took a 1 foot fall onto a carpet, I won't be buying any more iPod's until they have a decent shock protection system built in (a bit like the new Sony player). It won't be fool proof I know, but another line of defense for my hundreds of dollars investment would be nice...
 
Oid said:
Personally after my old iPod died when it took a 1 foot fall onto a carpet, I won't be buying any more iPod's until they have a decent shock protection system built in (a bit like the new Sony player).


What was your iPod doing a mere 12 inches off the carpet when it was dropped? You are either really short, or you lost the manual for the armband and are wearing it in the wrong place. :p
 
still no audiobook playlist in itunes? Strange, I would think with shuffle, podcast, library, purchased music, that they could at least add one for audiobooks? I know the ipod automatically has a audiobook section, why not itunes? strange. I never listened to a podcast before but I actually like it, I was sceptical because I like the idea of something being live.
 
30 gig on its way

i just went ahead and bit the bullet ordered a 30 gig photo for 299.99 with student discount.. i guess this revision was nice after all..
 
I bet you Jobs did this on purpose. Release a crappy update a week before a special event, and then smoke all the grumbling peons with something massive...
 
i find it disturbing to see how ipods are bought like it's bread on this forum and in general...people are buying their 4th, their 5th, their zillionst ipod, boom, again 299€/$....


like 'that color screen does look attractive...i have a 20 gb ipod now, should i get a 30 gb ipod with color screen? i have it for 4 months and it's almost full with my 11 gb....'
or 'i want a new ipod, you know, i have it already for 6 months, time for a new one, you know, be the first in trends and all, you know'

it's so surreal and insulting...
 
Some of these rabid fanboys could benefit from maybe even simply driving by a business college...

Number one. Why updates to the iPod right now?
Easy. Anybody else got the letter in the mail about the class action lawsuit concerning the iPods battery life? I have, and I'm sure that saving their @$$es is pretty much really important to them right about now. Every 1, 3, or 3G owner could potentially get their battery or iPod replaced. Thats huge loss. And alot of things go on the back burner when you're faced with that kind of thing.

Number two. Why no updates to the iBooks?
Because they're closer to the Powerbook specs than they've ever been. Way too close. They can't justify any kind of real price difference between the lines if they're running the same processors at the same clock speeds, with all the extras already thrown into both packages. The Powerbook has hit a ceiling, and is not likely to go up much further, therefore the iBook has to be a step down enough to justify that difference in price.

Think thats a stupid reason? Intel used to have a guy with a soldering iron BURN A HOLE in the floating point unit of its 486DX processors to turn them into budget-minded 486SX's. You may think that's ridiculous, but its business. And look at Intel now. They're huge, and they don't have to prove anything to anybody. Because they do what's in the best interest of the business.

Let me reiterate.
Apple is a business, not a cult.
 
20GB and 60GB? :mad: They are kidding, right? What if I need 30 GB or 40? I have to buy 60?? Delirium
 
gskiser said:
I agree with you. I actually liked the 3G design better too. That's why I wasn't in a rush to replace my stolen 3G with a 4G. If I still had it, I'd wait for a better update before replacing it. Unfortunately my 3G is gone, so I've got to decide on something now.

Can you post a pic showing the difference between the two?
 
conesgnomes said:
In the sale section of apple's website, they're selling the 30gb "ipod w/color display" for $329 or for $299 if you can get the education discount. Though if you're anywhere but in the US, I'm not sure this does you any good...

Thank goodness my friend got her 30 GB iPod Photo, before they castrated them down to 20 GB. I was recommending she wait, since rumors indicated an update. Sure prices went down, but her collection is over 24 GB... What the hell was Apple thinking? With the photo capable iPods capacity is even more important, as people are loading all their digital photos along with their mp3s.
 
cloud 9 said:
i find it disturbing to see how ipods are bought like it's bread on this forum and in general...people are buying their 4th, their 5th, their zillionst ipod, boom, again 299€/$....


like 'that color screen does look attractive...i have a 20 gb ipod now, should i get a 30 gb ipod with color screen? i have it for 4 months and it's almost full with my 11 gb....'
or 'i want a new ipod, you know, i have it already for 6 months, time for a new one, you know, be the first in trends and all, you know'

it's so surreal and insulting...

Insulting? Why? That's how I operate. I'm on my..hmm...5th or 6th iPod now. I just sell them to my friends for next to nothing when it's time to get a new one. And if it wasn't for me doing that, none of them would have one. Not because of the price, but because they just had an "eh" attitude about it. Now they're hooked for life and don't know how they lived without an iPod before! :)

It's kind of funny. When my friends are together and they've got their iPods out it's like a photo timeline of my whole iPod history. :)
 
When will they ditch that awful ClickWheel? Now we just have second generation iPods with a slight update and a colour screen (and an annoying feature that, when you pull your headphones out of the slot, it pauses). Nothing else new.


I can't wait to be able to buy a PowerPod and be able to watch video, etc. and not have the clunky ClickWheel.
And, if there never is a PowerPod, i guess I'll have to go hunting for a third gen iPod, because it is ridiculous to pay that much money for a second gen iPod with the wheel, etc. painted grey.
 
plastique45 said:
And what "magical" cpu card are they to use? The fastest Motorola G4 is the 1.67GHz used in the PowerBook. They MUST keep the PowerBook "faster" than the iBook or $500 Mac mini or they will kil its sales. So they cripple the iBook with slower processor and 3 y old video cards. Welcome to the wonderful world of Apple computers.

Anyone still wondering why they switched to Intel?

How many people, looking for a notebook computer, would actually change their buying decision based on specs in a desktop computer? Really?

For the last decade it's been a given in the computing industry that desktops are faster than notebooks. Period. So, no, the Mini's specs are irrelevant to the PowerBook or iBook.

As for a faster CPU in the iBook versus the Pwerbook? Who cares about the iBook's CPU? Everyone I know is waiting for a better GPU and more RAM in the iBook. And maybe a 5400 RPM HDD.
 
sososowhat said:
I dropped my 15G 2G ipod from my bike at 25 mph (in its black clip-case). It bounced along & rebooted & was up & playing again right after. My daughter also dropped it once down some stone stairs! They're remarkably tough, even though the minis "feel" tougher to me.

I dropper a 3G several times on conrete, including a time where I dropped it and it slid all they way down a hill :'( Yet it was fine, I've dropped a 30GB ipod (photo) onto a contrete physics lab store once when it slit out of my coat pocket. Back got a little scratched, but nowhere near as bad as my 3G after it went down that hill :)
 
SpaceMagic said:
Where's my iBook :'(... Dell's website is getting more attractive everyday, especially with all the flyers they send me. I can get a laptop for £299 which is more powerful than Apple's current iBook at £699. Um... Apple... do something about this.

what are you waiting for? if you are just looking for a cheap computer hit the road.
 
quackattack said:
I completely agree. The idea of "updating" this iPod is crazy. I was thinking that when it was released Apple would have different custom iPods for different bands every 6 months or so. Now it just seems like a permanent shrine to U2 which is needless to say.... a little wierd.

Maybe they were originally planning on selling different versions, but never sold off the first lot due to the god-aweful color scheme of the U2 iPod.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Minor bumps don't do jack **** for Apple's mobile line.
Well, they should at least support Core Image for both the mini and the iBooks and maybe get a slightly better CPU and maybe even a single layer 4x DVD-RW for the 12" iBook, or something, for those who need to buy one now or in the next couple of months (school start).

But, it would be stupid to do a bigger update/form change when a MAJOR architectural change is known to be just 6-12 months away...
 
Mitthrawnuruodo said:
But, it would be stupid to do a bigger update/form change when a MAJOR architectural change is known to be just 6-12 months away...

This reminds me of when Apple released the 20" iMac as a "swan song" of sorts before the new G5 iMacs were released a few months afterwards. ;)

Regardless, even though I understand the timing involved with the Intel move, etc., I think it's a bit of an insult for Apple to put out a marginal iBook update after almost a year. A new mediocre video card instead of a old dinosaur video card? A speed bump to the G4 equating to a 0.025% increase (or whatever it would be) after an entire year? I'm not trying to look a gift horse in the mouth, as I'm looking forward to the iBook updates, but it just seems kind of weak, that's all.
 
question

ok I am finally ready to buy an iPod.

should I get the new 20GB or 30GB photo? 20GB is 269 and 30GB 299 with edu discount.

What's the difference? I'll probably only have to do the ipod-updater right?
 
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