The Mac Pro is designed for professionals. Pretty simple. I’m not sure why there’s a lot of confusion about that. It’s an amazing machine. looks beautiful, is wonderfully designed, is almost silent under heavy load etc Up and running immediately without hassle and just works. I bought one for the work I do in audio and cinematography. Previously had a 5.1, The 7.1 will mean real-time playback at 4K with nodes in resolve which will be amazing for someone like me. Worth reading Vincent laforets tests of the new Mac Pro vs the 10 and 18 core iMac Pro when working in photography and cinematography. I bought for £10.5k, after vat, apple business discount and tax write off it’ll be £4.7k.
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MP 7,1 New MP - it's not for you. So who is it for?
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I find it interesting that only YouTube bloggers received pre-release evaluation units.
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They did? By how much and why?
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I have a lot of enthusiasm for the 2019 Mac Pro. I am very pleased that Apple realized their mistake and, more surprisingly, admitted as much and corrected it. While I would like to see a lower entry price on the new system I'm glad to see they've returned to offering at least one headless, upgradable system.
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Dude, i stated already a professional who has a pre release evaluation unit - Vincent Laforet. And there are many others. The difference is that they’re not blogging about it on YouTube. So if you want to find pro’s opinions of the Mac Pro, don’t go to YouTube and watch bloggers, go to the pro’s websites and you’ll find plenty of real-world comparisons and opinions.
Not so. Mr La Foret as already posted by @Kedbear . Video editor Thomas Grove Carter also had one, it was he who posted that the Pro Display XDR worked with an iMac Pro at 5K. Featured on the Mac Power Users podcast https://www.relay.fm/mpu/514
From his Twitter feed (6 yr old for scale):
Oh, and Calvin Harris. Quite possibly others who don't feel the need to post just yet.
Only subtly. Call of Duty 4 and Portal benchmarks on the 2012 product pages...
http://web.archive.org/web/20120201033008/http://www.apple.com/macpro/features/graphics.html
If Apple released a Prosumer version of this desktop using the same form factor case with with an i7/i9 CPU and the ability to add components but run macOS, Hackintoshing would be over.
James Tonkin at Hangman is another example. Read his post at fcp.co.
Dude! I used Google to try and locate any reviews of the 2019 Mac Pro and all I discovered were YouTube bloggers. I even mentioned this in these forums and this is the first time anyone has mentioned anything but the YouTube bloggers.
Of course Google will prioritise bloggers. Anyway, you have some links now to check out and there’s some good real world stuff there.
I have no doubt that more and more reviews are going to appear and I'm looking forward to checking them out.
Of course not, that why they don't are about it, but for people who do hackintosh it would be awesome to be modular and run macOS supported. I love my home built machines. Would love to have a real Mac in that form factor to upgrade and play with.
Many would say 80/20 is a good basis for making a decision--if the 80 is consideration of the info available. Some even say 70/30 is good, but I would have to get into a 'sub-optimal, disrupt myself' kind of mindset to do that!
OK, so after another 50 or so posts, here are more actual users (on this forum--check posts 104-110 for links to non-YouTuber pro reviews):
cinematography
deep learning research
medical and other image processing
audio pro (2)
video production, maybe moving to 8K in coupla years
still photographer
Definitely not buying:
PC gamers, for some reason
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cinematography
deep learning research
medical and other image processing
audio pro (2)
video production, maybe moving to 8K in coupla years
still photographer
Definitely not buying:
PC gamers, for some reason
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i'd also include medical image processing and image processing in general (some of my main uses)OK, so after another 50 or so posts, here are more actual users (on this forum--check posts 104-110 for links to non-YouTuber pro reviews):
cinematography
deep learning research
audio pro (2)
video production, maybe moving to 8K in coupla years
still photographer
Definitely not buying:
PC gamers, for some reason
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A good number of physicians who use it in their personal office for assessment, diagnosis, and case management as they speak with patients.
Ditto for Dentists.
Mac's are a favorite with dentists in Japan, at least.
They love to show off your cavity on a Mac linked 5k monitor.
Ditto for Dentists.
Mac's are a favorite with dentists in Japan, at least.
They love to show off your cavity on a Mac linked 5k monitor.
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OK, so after another 50 or so posts, here are more actual users (on this forum--check posts 104-110 for links to non-YouTuber pro reviews):
cinematography
deep learning research
medical and other image processing
audio pro (2)
video production, maybe moving to 8K in coupla years
still photographer
Definitely not buying:
PC gamers, for some reason
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You definitely want to add colorists to that, also anyone working in visual effects, graphics artists etc
Well a base configuration is USD $5,999.00.
From March 1990 to April 1992, the Macintosh IIfx, the base model – Macintosh IIfx: 4 MB memory, 1.44 MB SuperDrive. Cost $8,989 USD (equivalent to USD $17,200 in 2018)
So the Mac Pro 2019: 32GB (4 × 8GB) of DDR4 ECC memory), 3.5GHz 8‑Core Intel Xeon W processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.0GHz, Radeon Pro 580X with 8GB of GDDR5 memory, 256GB of SSD storage –– looks like a bargain.
I also feel the loss, but in my opinion the entry-level Mac Pro was already unaffordable to most hobbyists. A $300 computer case and motherboard it was not. Apple never made an xMac, which sounds a lot like it would have been the thing you're describing. And at the end of the day, there isn't really that much difference between hobbyists who'd spend $3k+ on a computer tower and hobbyists who'd spend $6k+ on one. (I mean, John Siracusa still bought one.) They'll lose maybe half of those high-end hobbyist customers, but the ones they keep will pay maybe twice as much.
That's been Apple's Mac strategy for the last few years, and it sucked. It hasn't changed much with the new Mac Pro, except with the addition of upgradeability. But to be honest, this strategy hurt far more with the laptops, where there wasn't even the option for a high-end hobbyist to move to an upgradeable machine if they wanted (there still isn't). I could, for instance put a 4TB drive in my 2009 MBP tomorrow for a couple of hundred bucks. Yet that spec isn't even available in the 2019 MBP (assuming you prefer the 13" size), and if it was it would cost thousands.
For the hobbyist who still wants/needs an upgradable desktop, the option does remain to buy a used cheesegrater... or wait until today's cheesegrater comes down in price. Going to be waiting a long time for that unfortunately, but at least it's something.
As fun as it is to take a trip down memory lane, I think this is a deeply misleading argument for the value of a modern day Pro. Any desktop computer in 2019 will seem like an absurd futuristic bargain against any desktop computer from the early 90s, almost irrespective of either’s relative value against contemporary alternatives.
While I understand where you're coming from this isn't really an apt comparison. Since the release of the Macintosh IIfx computers have become considerably less expensive.
This is not to say that I think the 2019 Mac Pro is expensive. While I would like to see a lower cost of entry (or better specs *cough* 1TB SSD *cough*) on the base model I do not think it is excessive (however I can understand those who do).