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NoSmokingBandit

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Other than the fact that repairing permissions in OS X does virtually nothing at all, verifying the HD is not mandatory, and running scripts can be easily automated, I highly doubt the list would come close to 23.

You could make a 23 point list if you filled it with as much BS and FUD as the list apple made about windows.
 

Wikinerd

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You could make a 23 point list if you filled it with as much BS and FUD as the list apple made about windows.

Really?— to my point of view, and to several others on that thread, it's quite accurate. (the fact that you need to defrag, remove bloatware, update, drivers, malware scan, repair registry, etc.)
 

Wikinerd

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Give me a an under-RAM's Mac and Final Cut any day over any PC with a faster processor and more RAM!

Erm. I'd say I'd go with the PC but hackint0sh it. (or EFI-X it or whatnot)

PS. Is there a way to remove software
It's pretty much drag and drop or package installer in OS X. Only a few programs that go into /System come with uninstallers and they are usually just scripts.

Sorry. I forgot to finish that sentence. My original thought was that is there an app like AppZapper, AppDelete or such in Windows? (No, add/remove programs usually screws it up even more)

PS. even though Mac OS X's paradigm is a lot easier and faster...

Eh you do realise when you convert ssa to srt, you lose all benefits of ssa/ass subtitles. looks like you've never worked with them. with ssa you get custom fonts, border size, border color, primary color, animation, rotation, drop shadows and a lot more advanced functions.

So is there any way of burning ssa/ass subtitles onto a avi without converting them into srt? ssa/ass are used exclusively by the fansubbing community to release subtitled avi files. And guess what they use for this editing purpose. Certainely not OSX.

http://www.fluffalopefactory.com/miyu/

and ssa/ass aren't used that much outside of the anime community, really...
 

NXTMIKE

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i wonder if you decided on getting a Mac, would "they" still hand you the x amount of cash. lol

thats if these ads were real. which they're not IMO.
 

Wikinerd

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thats if these ads were real. which they're not IMO.

not in your opinion—it's a known fact that the people featured are actors with NDA's...

(Lauren is from an actor's guild, for example... the others, we don't know. Or at least they can't tell as long as they stand by their NDAs)
 

NoSmokingBandit

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Really?— to my point of view, and to several others on that thread, it's quite accurate. (the fact that you need to defrag, remove bloatware, update, drivers, malware scan, repair registry, etc.)

Yes, the views a forum full of mac fanboys who bash MS on a regular basis is an accurate sample pool.
:rolleyes:
 

NoSmokingBandit

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I arbitrarily clicked on 4 of those (im not patient enough to read all of them) and 3 were the exact same article telling users what to do before they go online. One of the steps was "plug in and configure your router." Obvisouly you dont need to set up a router for a mac, they run on magic and unicorn poop, duh! One of the other steps was something like "plug in your printer." MS screwed up again! Everyone knows that macs automatically plug the printers in for you!
Other points were things like adjusting your monitor, plugging into a surge protector instead of the wall outlet, check hardware for defects (as well all know, macs never have faulty hardware from the factory :rolleyes:), downloading updates (once again, not windows-specific).

Ugh....
Im don with this thread now. If you can post something even semi-intelligent i might humor you, until then you can keep spreading nonsense, the other zealots here probably love it.
 

Treq

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Lauren wanted the cheapest 17-inch laptop she could find. Clearly, then, she got what she wanted and needed.

No, she didn't. People in the film business use Macs. I bet the crew shooting this were laughing while they made it. :D

unless you mean "cheap" as in "crap"... then yes, she did.
 

Wikinerd

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I arbitrarily clicked on 3 or 4 of those (im not patient enough to read all of them) and 3 were the exact same article telling users what to do before they go online. One of the steps was "plug in and configure your router." Obvisouly you dont need to set up a router for a mac, they run on magic and unicorn poop, duh! One of the other steps was something like "plug in your printer." MS screwed up again! Everyone knows that macs automatically plug the printers in for you!
Other points were things like adjusting your monitor, plugging into a surge protector instead of the wall outlet, check hardware for defects (as well all know, macs never have faulty hardware from the factory :rolleyes:), downloading updates (once again, not windows-specific).

Some of them are the same (the first 4), just to show that they're not "fanboy reporting", that a multitude of people indicates that it's suggested—if you were to exhibit any triple-digit-intelligence you should actually cite more than once source from keeping the other side from denouncing that source unless it's established. (take Mosx, for example.)
And some of the steps are the same with macs, such as the router one.

There are some points that are valid that you have missed that proves my point:
  • making a starter CD ROM (because of the frequent reinstalls that you may need)
  • removing bloatware
  • Install antivirus software
  • Install printers and other peripherals
  • Turn off unnecessary Windows services
  • Establish a system restore point


Next time, stop trolling for a moment and try reading all of them. It might keep you from writing that pile of bollocks that you did.

Ugh....
Im don with this thread now. If you can post something even semi-intelligent i might humor you, until then you can keep spreading nonsense, the other zealots here probably love it.

Way to insult someone while spreading nonsense yourself. I am still waiting for any sort of proof from you. (No, Mosx's doesn't count.)
 

NT1440

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May 18, 2008
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Lauren wanted the cheapest 17-inch laptop she could find. Clearly, then, she got what she wanted and needed.

Really? "cheapest computer I can find" didnt come up when she was listing what she "needed" from a laptop.
 

Demosthenes X

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Ugghh. I could see some rationale to the last set of commercials, but there is absolutely no way I would ever attempt video editing on a PC. The power and intuitiveness of Mac software/OS shines in this regard. Don't forget, when video editing you are usually using more than one application to complete your process and seamless operation between these is what makes a workflow happen.

Give me a an under-RAM's Mac and Final Cut any day over any PC with a faster processor and more RAM!

CS4 integrates better than Final Cut Studio, is more powerful, and offers far more functionality. I love Final Cut for editing, but as a package, CS4 is way, way ahead of it. AfterEffects blows Motion out of the water, and FCP doesn't even offer a piece of software like OnLocation.

And CS4 is available on both platforms, so you can use it on a PC.
 

Treq

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CS4 integrates better than Final Cut Studio, is more powerful, and offers far more functionality. I love Final Cut for editing, but as a package, CS4 is way, way ahead of it. AfterEffects blows Motion out of the water, and FCP doesn't even offer a piece of software like OnLocation.

And CS4 is available on both platforms, so you can use it on a PC.

lol:D
 

pmeisman

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Sep 1, 2008
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Speaking form a film maker's prospective...

She must not be that serious about saving money. In the industry you have 2 real choices for editing software. Final Cut, which is exclusive to mac, (and $1600) and Avid... A basic package of their software starts at about $5000. Also, I don't know anyone who is an filmmaker who says, "I need a smaller screen." The larger the screen the greater the space for productivity. I sincerely doubt she is a filmmaker at all, and is just paid actor, but still... It's upsetting to see that character inaccurately portrayed. This goes without saying, Microsoft sucks...
 

DMann

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You could make a 23 point list if you filled it with as much BS and FUD as the list apple made about windows.

However, it is the very awareness of FUD which keeps Windows running at all. We Windows users rely on FUD for motivation to diligently run anti-virus, malware, spyware programs, and update and scan without lapse. Windows memory management being what it is, we need to be extra mindful about which apps are kept open, close those apps not being used, thanks to Superfetch, and cross our fingers while attempting to deal with large files. Without FUD, Windows productivity would come to a screeching halt - We ought to, at the very least, give credit where credit is due.
 

Treq

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However, it is the very awareness of FUD which keeps Windows running at all. We Windows users rely on FUD for motivation to diligently run anti-virus, malware, spyware programs, and update and scan without lapse. Windows memory management being what it is, we need to be extra mindful about which apps are kept open, close those apps not being used, thanks to Superfetch, and cross our fingers while attempting to deal with large files. Without FUD, Windows productivity would come to a screeching halt - We ought to, at the very least, give credit where credit is due.

Wow, all that wasted time, just because your OS wasn't designed well. I wonder what that costs in man/hours?:rolleyes:
 

DMann

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Wow, all that wasted time, just because your OS wasn't designed well. I wonder what that costs in man/hours?:rolleyes:
Considering the hours lost to downtime due to frequent restarts, system reinstalls, IT management, DLL Hell, driver problems, and continuous scans, the amount of lost income is daunting. Until we moved the majority of our systems to OSX, we accepted these annoyances as 'the norm' and have missed several deadlines as a result. Productivity took a 180º turn once we switched over to OS X - The stability of UNIX is unmatched, and we'll soon be 98% MAC by the end of the summer.
 

BMWFan

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These adverts are about budget, people. MS is just showing that with PCs you can get a machine with the specs they want for the budget they have. And before you go on about people being "cheap", even Apple users buy Dell displays because Apple doesn't provide displays with the specs the want within their budget. Everyone has a budget, even Apple users.
 

aristotle

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I'd suggest that the clueless PC fanboys find another hobby than coming here to troll. A mac with 2GB of ram is more than enough for basic video editing. Compared to OS X and linux, windows is horrible at memory management because windows initially did not have virtual memory while UNIX has had it for decades. OS X is built on server OS technology while windows has its roots in a single tasking OS called DOS. Right now, I have 948MB free out of 2GB and a VM size of 45GB on my iMac. Numbers like that would choke a windows PC running XP or Vista. It cannot handle juggling that much VM without grinding to a halt.

I earn my living on windows PCs developing software and I could tell you horror stories memory fragmentation on 64bit Windows 2003 Enterprise crashing Visual studio because of memory fragmentation resulting in "out of memory errors" despite having 2GB of ram and more than enough space for swap. Windows itself was a horrible hack and WOW64 (windows on windows) is ever worse.

BTW. My workstation at work has 2GB of ram as well but it run far slower than OS X on my iMac even factoring in the fact that I have a faster processor at home. The whole feel of the OS is sluggish once you have a few larger applications running.
 

Pika

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Oct 5, 2008
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These adverts are about budget, people. MS is just showing that with PCs you can get a machine with the specs they want for the budget they have. And before you go on about people being "cheap", even Apple users buy Dell displays because Apple doesn't provide displays with the specs the want within their budget. Everyone has a budget, even Apple users.

My budget is very good, I make money online with all my blogs and porn site that I create. I make $2 an hour non-stop thanks to advertising.
 
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